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Originally Posted by DrMilano
(Post 35570795)
AA EP is 200,000 loyalty points, whereas lowest AA tier Gold is 40,000 loyalty points. I suspect a majority of Delta FO through PM are spoiled by the AmEx $25k MQD waiver, as I highly suspect this is going bye bye and why extensive customer service agency training is required prior to 9/14, including possible retention offers when DL customers then threaten to cancel their co-branded AmEx DL credit card(s). As it has been mentioned in a previous post, it is significantly more spend to move up the AA status ladder with the bonus’s of EP > PP > PL > GD.
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Originally Posted by ty97
(Post 35571499)
One of the most interesting aspects of the AA program to me is that, in a way, it tries to lock you into AA status by making it easier to get loyalty points (from flying) if you already have status.The higher AA status you have, the more loyalty points you receive for a flight. Therefore it requires less financial spend (from flying only) for an EXP to retain EXP than it does for a Gold or a no-status member to reach EXP.
Originally Posted by xliioper
(Post 35570838)
The notion that they will simply just remove MQD Waiver rather than either bumping up spend waiver requirements for higher status levels, or replacing it with some other Amex spend based component for status, is just plain silly. Amex relationship is way too valuable for DL to risk pissing off a significant number of DL Amex cardholders.
It's also kind of tone-deaf (IMO) to announce much of anything airline-related this week, but that's just me..... David |
Originally Posted by jamesteroh
(Post 35571483)
Earn the MQD's like everyone in the US has to. I'm sure most diamonds in the US earn it from the MQD's and don't put $250K a year spend on the card.
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Not sure if this is the right place to really ask this but it's been mentioned upthread a few times either way, did anything change with SkyClub menus or whatever today like people said they were going to?
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Originally Posted by ty97
(Post 35571499)
One of the most interesting aspects of the AA program to me is that, in a way, it tries to lock you into AA status by making it easier to get loyalty points (from flying) if you already have status.The higher AA status you have, the more loyalty points you receive for a flight. Therefore it requires less financial spend (from flying only) for an EXP to retain EXP than it does for a Gold or a no-status member to reach EXP.
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Originally Posted by coke cans and winglets
(Post 35571879)
Not sure if this is the right place to really ask this but it's been mentioned upthread a few times either way, did anything change with SkyClub menus or whatever today like people said they were going to?
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Originally Posted by sydneyracquelle
(Post 35570859)
FO/GM/PM should have a tiered MQD waiver not all the same $25k. Should have been $25/$40/$60 or something like that.
Would solve Amex's problem of customers hitting $25k and then using another card, while also making SkyMiles attractive to customers in very competitive markets (i.e. the markets with relatively low fares). |
Originally Posted by sydneyracquelle
(Post 35571298)
My spend is $300. After $150 spend I get 1.5 SM/$ on my corporate reserve which is pretty good. I think there will be some offset for MQDs flying. Right now if you hit $19k MQDs and $249k Amex spend you are still PM. My guess is they will combine them at 10:1 so any combination of Amex and MQD to hit $20k will be DM. For example $100k Amex plus $10k flying MQD or $150k Amex plus $5k flying MQD. I think MQM balances will one-time convert to 2024 MQDs at 1-3% so someone with 300,000 MQMs will get between 3,000-9,000 MQDs for 2024. We’ll see on Thursday.
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Originally Posted by coke cans and winglets
(Post 35571879)
Not sure if this is the right place to really ask this but it's been mentioned upthread a few times either way, did anything change with SkyClub menus or whatever today like people said they were going to?
I think it's the same as what happened last time. The food didn't change but they updated the drink menu. |
Originally Posted by coke cans and winglets
(Post 35564652)
I'm also seeing 34k fares out of DCA. But the other thing you have to consider here too is their systems are vastly different and there's a trade off with this. Do AA miles go further on average than DL/UA miles, absolutely. But at the same time, AA awards don't get you any elite qualifying credit either like DL and UA awards do. DL awards might be more expensive on average but being able to get elite credit on them is huge for me.
There are no segments or flights or minimum dollars required to earn any AA status, (it's all based on earning LPs, which in many cases are disproportionately earned relative to whatever you purchased to earn them (shopping bonuses, hotels, etc).. The only 1:1 earning of LPs is for those charging something to their AA card. There's a whole community of people trying to find the sweet spots to ordering bonsai trees from a specific online retailer, hotel stays booked thru the AA portal, or gift cards... to get outsized LP rewards. |
STOP the COMPANION +1
Originally Posted by sydneyracquelle
(Post 35556602)
The whole Medallion system is currently a joke with everyone swimming in rollover MQMs and a very low $25k Amex waiver to make PM indefinitely. When everyone is PM no one is PM.
PLEASE Stop the Companion + 1 policy! Forget everyone is “Platinum”, when I see people write that MQP’s for FO is $75k Amex spend, you’re ALL nutz! |
Why Stop So Low?
Originally Posted by sydneyracquelle
(Post 35557594)
Simplest system might just be a combination of MQM plus Amex spend. FO 50k. GM 100k. PM 200k. DM 300k. But for international customers who cannot get a DL Amex maybe 25%-50% of these numbers?
You Should Make It, $1 Million Amex spend for FO, $2 Million Amex spend for Gold, $5 Million Amex spend for Platinum, and $10 Million Amex spend for Diamond. |
Originally Posted by jamesteroh
(Post 35571483)
Earn the MQD's like everyone in the US has to. I'm sure most diamonds in the US earn it from the MQD's and don't put $250K a year spend on the card.
And btw, i might be able to put $ 250K on my amex, holding both personal and business plat cards. But amex in europe is not reporting to amex in the US. I had the Delta Skymiles Mastercard when these were around but DL dropped them about 5 years ago. |
Originally Posted by BER Flyer
(Post 35572848)
If that would be just so easy. My home city Berlin has just got Delta service back ( untill october only ), otherwise my first flight segment is always on an partner airline, so in most cases i have AF/KL tickets which would not count towards my MQD total. Most of Deltas customers living in europe facing that problem.
And btw, i might be able to put $ 250K on my amex, holding both personal and business plat cards. But amex in europe is not reporting to amex in the US. I had the Delta Skymiles Mastercard when these were around but DL dropped them about 5 years ago. |
Originally Posted by LovePrunes
(Post 35572353)
AA award flights don't give any loyalty points, you're correct, but AA makes it easier to earn LPs from non-flying anyway.
There are no segments or flights or minimum dollars required to earn any AA status, (it's all based on earning LPs, which in many cases are disproportionately earned relative to whatever you purchased to earn them (shopping bonuses, hotels, etc).. The only 1:1 earning of LPs is for those charging something to their AA card. There's a whole community of people trying to find the sweet spots to ordering bonsai trees from a specific online retailer, hotel stays booked thru the AA portal, or gift cards... to get outsized LP rewards. |
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