DL says I was not on a flight that I was definitely on
#16
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Something similar happened to me few months ago. OJ cash J ticket that I was crediting to Delta :
1.JFK-CDG-SEZ (AF)
2. SOF-AMS-BOS
They credited my wife’s and child’s account for the 1. (and 2.) , but they never credited my account for the first leg, because I didn’t fly ?!? It took me close to two months and several calls , emails and chat sessions with Delta , till I got the miles credited .In the meantime , I had submitted BPs, pics of me on the plane and SEZ entry stamps. Finally I got hold of sympathetic agent that fixed the issue..
1.JFK-CDG-SEZ (AF)
2. SOF-AMS-BOS
They credited my wife’s and child’s account for the 1. (and 2.) , but they never credited my account for the first leg, because I didn’t fly ?!? It took me close to two months and several calls , emails and chat sessions with Delta , till I got the miles credited .In the meantime , I had submitted BPs, pics of me on the plane and SEZ entry stamps. Finally I got hold of sympathetic agent that fixed the issue..
#17
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Maybe the boarding pass didn't scan when boarding the flight.
If that's the case, it is odd that the return didn't get cancelled.
I can see why they can't (and shouldn't) take this lightly, though.
Flying without being on the manifest has to be "an incident".
If that's the case, it is odd that the return didn't get cancelled.
I can see why they can't (and shouldn't) take this lightly, though.
Flying without being on the manifest has to be "an incident".
#18
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I think people not making it on the manifest happens more often than some of you think. Just the other day at SLC the flight attendants on my flight did a manual count and it was off by 4! They figured out who was missing but couldn't find them. Operations determined the missing pax probably got on a different plane to a different destination but had no idea which one. (this was in hard stand land.) No one seemed particularly concerned about it and the FAs commented many of their colleagues don't even count.
Similarly at my home station of JAC there are often multiple planes boarding and deplaning on the same tarmac area with passengers mixing. People routinely get on the wrong plane, even the wrong airline.
Similarly at my home station of JAC there are often multiple planes boarding and deplaning on the same tarmac area with passengers mixing. People routinely get on the wrong plane, even the wrong airline.
Last edited by DLASflyer; May 10, 2022 at 4:09 pm
#19
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I think people not making it on the manifest happens more often than some of you think. Just the other day at SLC the flight attendants on my flight did a manual count and it was off by 4! They figured out who was missing but couldn't find them. Operations determined the missing pax probably got on a different plane to a different destination but had no idea which one. (this was in hard stand land.) No one seemed particularly concerned about it and the FAs commented many of their colleagues don't even count.
Similarly at my home station of JAC there are often multiple planes boarding and deplaning on the same tarmac area with passengers mixing. People routinely get on the wrong plane, even the wrong airline.
Similarly at my home station of JAC there are often multiple planes boarding and deplaning on the same tarmac area with passengers mixing. People routinely get on the wrong plane, even the wrong airline.
That said, I bet you're right that it does happen sometimes, and maybe frequently.
#21
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I had this happen to me too. They said I was not on a flight, so I couldn't get my miles. I pushed back to no avail....until I submitted a refund request. If I was not on the flight I'd like my $700 flight cost back. Unfortunately, I didn't get the refund but the miles suddenly credited.
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So this is a new one. A flight I took 2.5 weeks ago hadn't posted yet, so I called today and they told me it was because I was a no-show. This was the outbound flight of a round-trip award ticket. The return posted normally. When I look at the receipt online it indeed shows the first segment as "OPEN". The rep called multiple departments who all said I wasn't on the manifest, so I wasn't on the flight, but.....I was on that flight. I just want to get the MQDs for it, but I'm at a loss for what I can do at this point. Curious if anyone has any ideas.
One time they jammed my name on someone else’s PNR. Last minute standby end-around. Kind of risky, huh?
And I was seated next to Raphael Bostic. Google him.
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It's happened to me before. When I emailed DL for mileage credit that hadn't posted, they replied with an admonishment to "scan my boarding pass properly when boarding"... Ummm. I did.
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Each device (iPhone, iPad etc.) have unique identifiers, so when you use one of these inflight in theory they should know that ones device is in use, I don't know if they retain that info later on.
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Happened to me in 2006. Stood by for an earlier flight ATl-LAX. A seat opened up at the last minute but there was an issue assigning me - GA at the counter tore my boarding pass, wrote my seat number on it, and told the other GA at the door to let me on and she would fix the ticket. Definitely trying to get the door shut.
When the miles did not post and I was told multiple times via an email case that I did not fly, had to eventually send a letter where included the following (as I still have that letter on my computer!)…
Scanned Page 1:
• A scan of my eticket receipt showing the itinerary (includes the ticket number for your reference)
• The detached half of my boarding pass for July 30. I was originally scheduled to return to LAX on flight 395 (which is what the boarding pass says and what I checked in for), but I got to the airport early was able to stand-by for the earlier flight 1037. The gate agent at A1 wrote my new seat number - "20D" - on the boarding pass and took the other half. She said she was going to fix the ticket. Obviously something got messed up here, but the other half of this boarding pass should be in the paper records for the flight (or you have a real FAA problem!).
2. Scanned Page 2:
• Copy of my Hertz receipt showing me returning a car at Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport, timestamp 7/30/06 16:04 (4:04 PM)
• As further proof that I went from Atlanta to Los Angeles in approximately 5 hours on 7/30, I have also scanned my Easy Park receipt timestamp July 30, 2006 6:46 PM showing me physically back in Los Angeles.
3. Printed Page 1
• Page 11 from my August Verizon Wireless bill, showing my calls transactions for 7/30. They clearly show me in Atlanta and making a call at 4:43 telling my wife I may get on the earlier flight and at 4:57 telling her I got on the earlier flight -- and then showing me at LAX (El Segundo) at 6:30 PM Pacific just after Delta flight 1037 landed (and I did not fly myself to LAX).
I also pointed out that if I really did not fly, then for a $50 change fee I could really take advantage of the situation and reuse the ticket - but that since I did get the service from Delta I really just wanted the miles.
Not sure which part got it done but the flight was credited. Probably the last part about reusing the ticket.
When the miles did not post and I was told multiple times via an email case that I did not fly, had to eventually send a letter where included the following (as I still have that letter on my computer!)…
Scanned Page 1:
• A scan of my eticket receipt showing the itinerary (includes the ticket number for your reference)
• The detached half of my boarding pass for July 30. I was originally scheduled to return to LAX on flight 395 (which is what the boarding pass says and what I checked in for), but I got to the airport early was able to stand-by for the earlier flight 1037. The gate agent at A1 wrote my new seat number - "20D" - on the boarding pass and took the other half. She said she was going to fix the ticket. Obviously something got messed up here, but the other half of this boarding pass should be in the paper records for the flight (or you have a real FAA problem!).
2. Scanned Page 2:
• Copy of my Hertz receipt showing me returning a car at Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport, timestamp 7/30/06 16:04 (4:04 PM)
• As further proof that I went from Atlanta to Los Angeles in approximately 5 hours on 7/30, I have also scanned my Easy Park receipt timestamp July 30, 2006 6:46 PM showing me physically back in Los Angeles.
3. Printed Page 1
• Page 11 from my August Verizon Wireless bill, showing my calls transactions for 7/30. They clearly show me in Atlanta and making a call at 4:43 telling my wife I may get on the earlier flight and at 4:57 telling her I got on the earlier flight -- and then showing me at LAX (El Segundo) at 6:30 PM Pacific just after Delta flight 1037 landed (and I did not fly myself to LAX).
I also pointed out that if I really did not fly, then for a $50 change fee I could really take advantage of the situation and reuse the ticket - but that since I did get the service from Delta I really just wanted the miles.
Not sure which part got it done but the flight was credited. Probably the last part about reusing the ticket.
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It's possible to purchase before the flight but the internet provider can check usage on-board so it will be very easy to verify if wi-fi was used on the flight.
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Happened to me in 2006. Stood by for an earlier flight ATl-LAX. A seat opened up at the last minute but there was an issue assigning me - GA at the counter tore my boarding pass, wrote my seat number on it, and told the other GA at the door to let me on and she would fix the ticket. Definitely trying to get the door shut.
When the miles did not post and I was told multiple times via an email case that I did not fly, had to eventually send a letter where included the following (as I still have that letter on my computer!)…
Not sure which part got it done but the flight was credited. Probably the last part about reusing the ticket.
When the miles did not post and I was told multiple times via an email case that I did not fly, had to eventually send a letter where included the following (as I still have that letter on my computer!)…
Not sure which part got it done but the flight was credited. Probably the last part about reusing the ticket.
Last-minute seat assignments.. no credit...
(dating back to me leaving my Bose headphones and iPod on the gate counter in ATL, and magically ending up on my actual plane... which was odd for so many ways)
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how you can get your hands on these records or persuade DL to look them up, I dunno.