Buying upgrade does it change your fare class?
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Buying upgrade does it change your fare class?
Novice delta question, apologize in advance
if you have an economy ticket say m class or one of the other economy classes and buy an upgrade offer from delta to first class domestic will that change your ticket to f? Trying to understand do you earn mqm now at 100% or 200%?
I’m trying to learn the delta way of life as I convert from aa
if you have an economy ticket say m class or one of the other economy classes and buy an upgrade offer from delta to first class domestic will that change your ticket to f? Trying to understand do you earn mqm now at 100% or 200%?
I’m trying to learn the delta way of life as I convert from aa
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Unlike AA, only very expensive full J fares earn 200% MQM's on DL (DL no longer uses F class for domestic FC -- J is used for both international D1 and domestic FC). I believe all the upgrade offers book into one of the discount FC fare classes (C/D/I/Z) which earn 150% MQM's. So, yes, you will get a bonus. But it will only be 50%.
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Unlike AA, only very expensive full J fares earn 200% MQM's on DL (DL no longer uses F class for domestic FC -- J is used for both international D1 and domestic FC). I believe all the upgrade offers book into one of the discount FC fare classes (C/D/I/Z) which earn 150% MQM's. So, yes, you will get a bonus. But it will only be 50%.
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My guess is that upgrade offers taken before the OLCI window opens (T>24) result in reticketing to the new class of service, but offers taken within the OLCI window (T<24) do not. Is that the distinction?
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We should also point out that paying money (or miles at the rate offered) to upgrade only some of the connecting segments in the same direction normally is treated like a seat purchase and doesn't change the ticket to a higher fare class.
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This is my understanding, although I've never tested it to discover the exact timeline.
We should also point out that paying money (or miles at the rate offered) to upgrade only some of the connecting segments in the same direction normally is treated like a seat purchase and doesn't change the ticket to a higher fare class.
We should also point out that paying money (or miles at the rate offered) to upgrade only some of the connecting segments in the same direction normally is treated like a seat purchase and doesn't change the ticket to a higher fare class.
so say there are four legs in the itinerary and you update only one leg to first. The upgraded leg would not result in a higher fare class and as such not earn mqm bonus over economy?
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For instance, suppose you have a RT from AAA to BBB, with connections in both directions, at XXX outbound and YYY on the return. Assume that you do *not* have a broken fare. Then to get the additional MQMs you would need to pay to upgrade both the AAA-XXX and XXX-BBB segments (or both BBB-YYY and YYY-AAA segments). If you upgrade only one segment on this RT itinerary (or if you upgrade only AAA-XXX and YYY-AAA or only XXX-BBB and BBB-YYY, assuming that you do not have a broken fare or multicity itinerary), DL will treat it like a seat purchase and not reissue the ticket in a FC fare class.
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This is correct if you're not upgrading all segments on the same fare component.
For instance, suppose you have a RT from AAA to BBB, with connections in both directions, at XXX outbound and YYY on the return. Assume that you do *not* have a broken fare. Then to get the additional MQMs you would need to pay to upgrade both the AAA-XXX and XXX-BBB segments (or both BBB-YYY and YYY-AAA segments). If you upgrade only one segment on this itinerary, DL will treat it like a seat purchase and not reissue the ticket in a FC fare class.
For instance, suppose you have a RT from AAA to BBB, with connections in both directions, at XXX outbound and YYY on the return. Assume that you do *not* have a broken fare. Then to get the additional MQMs you would need to pay to upgrade both the AAA-XXX and XXX-BBB segments (or both BBB-YYY and YYY-AAA segments). If you upgrade only one segment on this itinerary, DL will treat it like a seat purchase and not reissue the ticket in a FC fare class.
Here is what the receipt itself shows for having upgraded just the LAX - ATL portion of SYD - LAX - ATL - RDU (all of which had upgrade offers to either PE for SYD - LAX or F for the rest):
Miscellaneous Service and Fees: RFIC: I
Document #: 1234567890
Date of issue: XXJUL19
This document expires: XXJUL20
CMFT+ FRST SEG Upsell282.79 USD
Total282.79 USD
Payment Method: AX****
Routing: LAX-ATL
Document #: 1234567890
Date of issue: XXJUL19
This document expires: XXJUL20
CMFT+ FRST SEG Upsell282.79 USD
Total282.79 USD
Payment Method: AX****
Routing: LAX-ATL
Last edited by Duke787; Nov 8, 2019 at 1:05 pm
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This is correct if you're not upgrading all segments on the same fare component.
For instance, suppose you have a RT from AAA to BBB, with connections in both directions, at XXX outbound and YYY on the return. Assume that you do *not* have a broken fare. Then to get the additional MQMs you would need to pay to upgrade both the AAA-XXX and XXX-BBB segments (or both BBB-YYY and YYY-AAA segments). If you upgrade only one segment on this RT itinerary (or if you upgrade only AAA-XXX and YYY-AAA or only XXX-BBB and BBB-YYY, assuming that you do not have a broken fare or multicity itinerary), DL will treat it like a seat purchase and not reissue the ticket in a FC fare class.
For instance, suppose you have a RT from AAA to BBB, with connections in both directions, at XXX outbound and YYY on the return. Assume that you do *not* have a broken fare. Then to get the additional MQMs you would need to pay to upgrade both the AAA-XXX and XXX-BBB segments (or both BBB-YYY and YYY-AAA segments). If you upgrade only one segment on this RT itinerary (or if you upgrade only AAA-XXX and YYY-AAA or only XXX-BBB and BBB-YYY, assuming that you do not have a broken fare or multicity itinerary), DL will treat it like a seat purchase and not reissue the ticket in a FC fare class.
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We should also say that if you upgrade both segments, but do it by picking the segments separately with separate prices (which sometimes can total to less than the cost to upgrade all flights in that direction), it *probably* will be treated as two sequential seat purchases and not lead to a reissue of the ticket, but I don't know whether there have been any reports here that address that situation.
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We should also say that if you upgrade both segments, but do it by picking the segments separately with separate prices (which sometimes can total to less than the cost to upgrade all flights in that direction), it *probably* will be treated as two sequential seat purchases and not lead to a reissue of the ticket, but I don't know whether there have been any reports here that address that situation.
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Correct. In order to get bonus you must be able to select "upgrade all segments." If this isnt available (and it isnt when you're in different cabins per segment) then you're not buying up to a F fare, simply paying a seat fee.