Delta has a list of focus cities, and some are surprising
Jun 5, 2019, 9:17 pm
#106
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Same with AUS at this point in time... I got there the other day at 5AM and at a brand new SC, 6 people were waiting to get in. Only time I have been there since the open, but by the time I exited for my flight the breakfast area was full. I wonder what the occupancy is at other times...You raise an interesting question about criteria, but the beautiful new SC and the increased number of flights will keep me with DL and I hope the new lounge will entice more pax (especially BIZ pax).
Jun 5, 2019, 10:18 pm
#107
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BNA may be called a focus city simply because it has had a ton of loyal DL fliers over the years and DL wants to keep them. It's like a bigger version of BHM, which is a DL stronghold despite having had WN service for years.
Jun 5, 2019, 10:44 pm
#108
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Or they could do the reverse -- just depends on if they treat the SC as a cost center or profit center
Jun 6, 2019, 8:57 am
#109
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Sorry, missed that CP has started flying for AA. And inconveniently forgot how much of SJC's AS footprint is actually OO (or Horizon? They do E75s now too right?).
FWIW AUS has the same linear terminal problem as SJC.
Good to know re: connections through RDU. My previous theory aside, that makes sense If they had enough connections to upgauge they should've been running those through ATL in the first place.
In other news, where did all the 717s go? Are they back in ATL doing short haul?
FWIW AUS has the same linear terminal problem as SJC.
Good to know re: connections through RDU. My previous theory aside, that makes sense If they had enough connections to upgauge they should've been running those through ATL in the first place.
In other news, where did all the 717s go? Are they back in ATL doing short haul?
Agree also that this fits in more with another poster above that it cannot serve connecting traffic in any meaningful way, simply more P2P based on O&D.
Jun 6, 2019, 9:35 am
#110
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Delta has about 10% of the market in BNA, very very distant 2nd to SWA. It's a focus city because it's a booming city and they think they can GET a bunch of new business, not (just) because they want to keep existing business.
Jun 6, 2019, 9:40 am
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Jun 7, 2019, 4:43 am
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I don't care if they call Boston and SJC hubs, spoke city, wheelbarrows or crapshows. But a direct flight suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure would be nice. The flight options to SFO (and the drive) are not that appealing. I can take an SJC>Connection>BOS flight starting at 6a local and be home in time for dinner. Pretty nice, but would be even greater if direct.
Will be interesting next 18 months in BOS with the hub and terminal A expansion (won't miss the WN flyers slowing down security, that's fo shuh). Hopefully B6's strong presence will keep DL's prices reasonable (instead of verging towards ATL pricing).
Will be interesting next 18 months in BOS with the hub and terminal A expansion (won't miss the WN flyers slowing down security, that's fo shuh). Hopefully B6's strong presence will keep DL's prices reasonable (instead of verging towards ATL pricing).
Jun 7, 2019, 6:30 am
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The only airports in Europe with full US pre-clearance are DUB and SNN, and this is unlikely to change in the immediate future, although there have been expressions of interest in having preclearance eventually in place in other European airports.
Jun 7, 2019, 6:32 am
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Jun 7, 2019, 7:38 am
#116
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DL has 13.5% market share at BNA compared to AA’s 14.8%....and that gap is closing....DL is also growing twice as fast as AA (something like +13% vs +7%)
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Jun 7, 2019, 7:41 am
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Yes, PIK, then GLA, OSL and other Scandinavian destinations, I seem to recall.
Jun 7, 2019, 7:44 am
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Which still leaves the question of whether DL will build out a Customs and Immigration facility at Term A if they are flying to/from multiple European destinations from BOS. Granted the walk from E to A is an easy one.
Jun 7, 2019, 7:49 am
#119
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That really surprises me, only 13.5%? Honestly I would have thought it was more. The growth doesn't surprise me though, usually used to only leave from B1,2,3,4, then 5 and 6 now I have even left from 9 a few times.
Jun 7, 2019, 10:20 am
#120
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think about the growth though.....BNA went from 13M in 2016, 14.1M in 2017, to 16M in 2018....and while all of the existing carriers have grown in that time, it has also included adding service from AS, BA, G4, WS, SY, F9, and now NK in those numbers as well
I believe a few years ago DL was around 10% of market share, so to gain ~3.5% in 2-3 years is not bad