Delta has a list of focus cities, and some are surprising
Jun 3, 2019, 2:32 pm
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Somewhat related to this, I heard a claim today that now MSP is DL's #2 (whatever this means, total flights, total passengers, profits, etc.) hub surpassing DTW. Yeah, we now have the ICN flight, but I don't see evidence otherwise that MSP is scaling up in some sense or that DTW is significantly contracting.
Jun 3, 2019, 2:40 pm
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The Medallions in Nashville and at RDU got cool socks in the mail last year.
That is the definition of "new focus city" right there.
So SJC seems to be the most aspirational one right now with only one nonstop to a non-hub (LAS).
It was the launch destination for the A220 in SEA.
To really be a focus city it will need something more than a few token flights up and down the West Coast.
I bet we see AUS, RDU, and BOS from SJC in the next year.
That is the definition of "new focus city" right there.
So SJC seems to be the most aspirational one right now with only one nonstop to a non-hub (LAS).
It was the launch destination for the A220 in SEA.
To really be a focus city it will need something more than a few token flights up and down the West Coast.
I bet we see AUS, RDU, and BOS from SJC in the next year.
Jun 3, 2019, 2:49 pm
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Jun 3, 2019, 4:04 pm
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Can we look at gross margin on those seats?
I suspect DL runs MCO flights as a loss leader to keep otherwise valued customers from flying other airlines. Otherwise they would be happy to see it sink into the ocean.
I suspect DL runs MCO flights as a loss leader to keep otherwise valued customers from flying other airlines. Otherwise they would be happy to see it sink into the ocean.
Jun 3, 2019, 4:10 pm
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Enjoy flying SJC, much better on-time performance. When SFO has low cloud, SJC is fine. Wish there will be a second SJC-DTW, maybe red-eye? SJC-BOS will also make sense. Even SJC-RDU because of tech traffic?
Jun 3, 2019, 5:01 pm
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If BOS is going to be a 'secondary trans-Atlantic gateway' quoting Amy Martin, managing director of domestic network planning, does that suggest a build-out of an immigration and customs facility in Terminal A? I seem to recall reading that the terminal was built with that in mind.
The DUB flight would pre-clear in Ireland, but not the others, right?
The DUB flight would pre-clear in Ireland, but not the others, right?
Jun 3, 2019, 5:29 pm
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I don't think anybody could point to any rational metric that currently makes SJC a focus city.
Now I believe it would be an excellent idea for DL to pursue (obviously there's a lot of money in this region). If they do that, I think DL could even make SJC-CDG and SJC-ICN work with A330s.
Now I believe it would be an excellent idea for DL to pursue (obviously there's a lot of money in this region). If they do that, I think DL could even make SJC-CDG and SJC-ICN work with A330s.
Jun 3, 2019, 5:38 pm
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Maybe, maybe, maybe Apple might employ the most in Austin proper, but they are not the largest private sector employer in the metro area.
Jun 3, 2019, 5:42 pm
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There may be no more enduring FT myth than the notion that SJC is ripe for expansion. As long as SFO exists, SJC will be left with table scraps.
Jun 3, 2019, 6:00 pm
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There may be no dumber post on FT then that one. SJC has been the fastest growing airport in the US for at least the last 2 years
Jun 3, 2019, 6:03 pm
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SJC I don't get. Per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Jo...tional_Airport, which in terms cites government data, for March 2018-February 2019, Southwest is easily #1 with half the market and Delta is at #4 , though if you add in Compass, then it looks like they just barely nudge out Alaska for #2 . Same thing for Nashville where they only fly to their hubs with 11.12% of the market plus whatever share of the Connection flights they have. I was thinking to be able to call it a focus city you should have at least 20% of the market with a good chunk of flights to nonhubs. Or maybe it's a sign that said flights are coming.
Jun 3, 2019, 6:11 pm
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SJC is in Silicon Valley. SFO is not.
Jun 3, 2019, 6:16 pm
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I don't think anybody could point to any rational metric that currently makes SJC a focus city.
Now I believe it would be an excellent idea for DL to pursue (obviously there's a lot of money in this region). If they do that, I think DL could even make SJC-CDG and SJC-ICN work with A330s.
Now I believe it would be an excellent idea for DL to pursue (obviously there's a lot of money in this region). If they do that, I think DL could even make SJC-CDG and SJC-ICN work with A330s.