Skipping first leg - Delta / Air France - repercussions?
#46
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Depending on your status, the Medallion line may be willing to move your first flight to a later time — or potentially let you book the new one way SFO-LAX and link those. I’ve had them do that (I wasn’t paying with points, which could have been a factor in my favor) successfully when an anticipated weather event (that DL hadn’t acknowledged — they did 24 hours later but I wanted to get ahead of the crowds) forced a change of plans. Originally, American Express Travel (who I booked with) told me would be a $5k change (it was a J ticket to Australia and was not operated by DL but VA but was marketed by DL) in order to move my SEA to LAX flight up.
This was for work so I would have done it if forced, but that felt ridiculously out of bounds so I ended up just conferencing in the Medallion line and they were able to make the change for ~$300 or so (they re-classed my domestic ticket but kept the rest of the itinerary the same). YMMV of course, but this is one of those instances I’ve found that status certainly helps.
This was for work so I would have done it if forced, but that felt ridiculously out of bounds so I ended up just conferencing in the Medallion line and they were able to make the change for ~$300 or so (they re-classed my domestic ticket but kept the rest of the itinerary the same). YMMV of course, but this is one of those instances I’ve found that status certainly helps.
But the OP is not trying to change his flight because of weather issues.
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I think Delta is quite good about making changes when there are potential weather issues, regardless of status and whether they have yet issued an advisory. Friends of mine were scheduled to fly SAV-ATL-MSP tomorrow (Sunday). On Thursday they became concerned about the impending midwest snow and called before the weather advisory (which came later in the day). They were able to change to a Friday flight, with change fees waived. They have no status.
But the OP is not trying to change his flight because of weather issues.
In fainess, there were a lot of differences between my flight and OP. I was in a J seat and there was an availability issue that originally confounded Amex (the reason they couldn’t just cancel and rebook), it was a corporate booking on a refundable ticket (albeit with a discount DL gives my company), etc. Regardless, I’m confident my status is what got the situation resolved as fast as it was b/c initially the agent seemed to reaffirm what Amex was saying until I pointed out that there had to be a way to resolve the change for less than $4500 and she noted the amount of money and miles I'd already spent/booked six weeks into the year (I didn’t even mention it, she did). If the agent had held firm, I would have gone on a “the weather is going to be crazy and I can’t miss my flight” spiel, but I didn’t even have to go there.
#48
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A batch process runs to cancel out remaining segments on an itinerary after a no-show. It is not immediate.
You can see this for yourself by buying a dummy refundable/flexible ticket, OLCI, no-showing for segment1, and seeing how long it takes until the remaining segment2 is deleted & thus not visible at DL.com.
I'm not saying he'd make the flight in this all-day scenario, but I have made it onboard a LAX-HNL flight on a SAN-LAX-HNL ticket where I no-showed on SAN-LAX.
Assuming this is an AF-issued e-ticket and LAX-PPT boarding passes has been issued, it is not a trivial IT matter for DL systems to cancel onward segments on AF.
It will eventually sync, but this takes hours, not minutes.
Last edited by Colin; Mar 9, 2019 at 9:53 pm
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Ya - the Korean lounge is pretty bad, and has continued to deteriorate over the years. Unless you need a shower (sounds like you dont), I'd stay away.
It's basically microwaveable cups of soup like college kids would eat, a spread of celery and carrots (that dont look fresh), some miniature sandwich triangles that look gross, and some overly salty tortilla chips + chunky flavorless salsa.
There is self-serve alcohol, which is nice (assuming its replenished promptly).
While i dont think this affects you, the PP hours have also been cut. They used to allow visits until 8pm, now its like 6pm. Crowding isn;t really a problem since its so large.
TL;DR:
- Do NOT go to the KAL lounge for food.
- The self-serve alcohol is acceptable.
- If you need a shower, then its the place for you.
Otherwise, I'd go to PF Changs, use your PP allotment, then get something else somewhere.
(Idk if it's just me, but i think the prices at LAX PFC's have increased since they started letting PP holders in - basically to box them in to only ordering one entree).
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Also, if you want a great daytime view of the City and beach, go to Hotel Erwin in Venice and ask to go to the roof. Great cocktails, great foot, and amazing views! It's fantastic during the day.
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You're not confined with Priority Pass to just use the KL lounge . Your boarding pass will let you enter any terminal at LAX and there are many priority pass opportunities to enjoy. You could have a lounge/eating tour of LAX..drinking too .. most concourses are reachable in the sterile area so no need to re-clear TSA each time. Just a thought
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Does the AS lounge at LAX (T6) currently let PP people enter? It was nice back when DL used T5 and T6.
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Great analysis.^ Nevertheless, it doesn't help OP. OP maybe able to fly LAX-PPT yet PPT-LAX-SFO will mostly likely be cancelled. It is worse to be stranded at PPT.
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