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Old Dec 6, 18, 9:14 am
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Originally Posted by runningformqm View Post

im also seeing roundtrip award tickets cost less than one way award tickets, is this new?
That's been happening for a while -- especially on international flights.

Seems like the net is they've brought in revenue fare rules to award tickets where historically award tickets essentially had fare rules that were in line with the more flexible fare classes
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Old Dec 6, 18, 9:28 am
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Originally Posted by Duke787 View Post
That's been happening for a while -- especially on international flights.

Seems like the net is they've brought in revenue fare rules to award tickets where historically award tickets essentially had fare rules that were in line with the more flexible fare classes
that sadly makes sense...any data points on booking a cheaper roundtrip then cancelling the return after flying the outbound with a platinum fee waiver?
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Old Dec 6, 18, 9:36 am
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Is this worth it? I mean if you have status doesnt it negate most of the negative benefits of basic
That's half the point of Basic Economy - force Medallions to pay for their existing benefits. So no, they have intentionally made it "not worth it". But at the expense of you now having to pay $50 to get a C+ seat whereas before they were charging you $0.
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Old Dec 6, 18, 9:57 am
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It's usually 2500 SkyPesos cheaper than MC on a one-way!
You mean regular economies are now 2500 SkyPesos pricier than where it should be.
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For me, a typical reward trip would be a short one hour flight to NYC for some shopping. So, I could live with Basic on the outbound for an hour, but, on the way back, I may need 2 or 3 checked bags for purchases I made. I don't believe it's possible to do Basic in one direction and Main Cabin in the other direction without redeeming for 2 separate one-way tickets - - so I would lose the discount when the round-trip mileage requirement is cheaper than redeeming for 2 one-ways.
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Old Dec 6, 18, 11:00 am
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For me, a typical reward trip would be a short one hour flight to NYC for some shopping. So, I could live with Basic on the outbound for an hour, but, on the way back, I may need 2 or 3 checked bags for purchases I made. I don't believe it's possible to do Basic in one direction and Main Cabin in the other direction without redeeming for 2 separate one-way tickets - - so I would lose the discount when the round-trip mileage requirement is cheaper than redeeming for 2 one-ways.
For what it's worth, basic economy does not take away checked bags benefits as far as I know.
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Originally Posted by davetravels View Post
For me, a typical reward trip would be a short one hour flight to NYC for some shopping. So, I could live with Basic on the outbound for an hour, but, on the way back, I may need 2 or 3 checked bags for purchases I made. I don't believe it's possible to do Basic in one direction and Main Cabin in the other direction without redeeming for 2 separate one-way tickets - - so I would lose the discount when the round-trip mileage requirement is cheaper than redeeming for 2 one-ways.
Can't you go shopping in Pittsburgh or at PIT airport? Alternatively, Berlin or Mexico City should have some good shopping.
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Old Dec 6, 18, 11:34 am
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If they want to throw it on all the Florida and HI routes, fine whatever. But if I start seeing it on flights ex-DCA, and the onward connections from ATL I usually take, I'll be done.
That's exactly what happened with cash BE fares. "Oh, it'll just be on flights where we compete with Spirit/Frontier/etc. so we can match their headline fares". Now it's everywhere.
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Old Dec 6, 18, 11:53 am
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For what it's worth, basic economy does not take away checked bags benefits as far as I know.
Hmmmmm. I just checked, and you're absolutely RIGHT! I never bought a BE ticket before, so, guess I had it in my head that it was similar to RyanAir and EasyJet where EVERYTHING costs extra!

So, I guess the main difference for DMs & PMs would be whether or not the BE Award Tix are redepositable or not. I can't imaging ANY PM or DM couldn't live for a one hour flight without an UG.

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Old Dec 6, 18, 12:04 pm
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist View Post
Can't you go shopping in Pittsburgh or at PIT airport? Alternatively, Berlin or Mexico City should have some good shopping.
Come on, M.E. You're a pretty worldly gal . . . . Would you really expect the same stores and brands of merchandise in Pittsburgh that you find in NYC, LA, LON, PAR, BER, or MEX?

This thread really isn't appropriate to discuss the cool and fun discount shopping in big cities around the world, but, I should probably write a book about it!

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That's exactly what happened with cash BE fares. "Oh, it'll just be on flights where we compete with Spirit/Frontier/etc. so we can match their headline fares". Now it's everywhere.
When did they match their fares?
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Old Dec 6, 18, 12:25 pm
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This is the final straw, I'm through as a DL elite if this is the case. DL can get bent. I'll just suck it up and start taking nonstops ex-DCA on AA. At least that airline is honest and open about how they screw over their customers, and with the new concourse, the biggest issue with AA at DCA (35X) will be gone.
And the churn goes on,

Seriously these threats are useless. You will storm off to AA (and no we don't care) and someone on AA will storm off to Delta.

Different passengers, same revenue. Delta won't care.

(And yes, they will all do EXACTLY the same thing LOL!)
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Old Dec 6, 18, 12:27 pm
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Originally Posted by davetravels View Post
Hmmmmm. I just checked, and you're absolutely RIGHT! I never bought a BE ticket before, so, guess I had it in my head that it was similar to RyanAir and EasyJet where EVERYTHING costs extra!

So, I guess the main difference for DMs & PMs would be whether or not the BE Award Tix are redepositable or not. I can't imaging ANY PM or DM couldn't live for a one hour flight without an UG.
Really???? They go into withdrawals if they don't get their pre-flight beverage and you expect them to live without knowing that they get their preferred seat and won't be able to come on here and scream about how they were cheated out of an upgrade????

I don't think so!
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Old Dec 6, 18, 12:32 pm
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The Skymiles program is now officially worthless!
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This is the final straw, I'm through as a DL elite if this is the case.
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This is terrible.
It's a total -sandwich, sure, but not so drastic that I'm going to storm off or think it will kill the program.

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Old Dec 6, 18, 12:33 pm
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Originally Posted by davetravels View Post
So, I guess the main difference for DMs & PMs would be whether or not the BE Award Tix are redepositable or not. I can't imaging ANY PM or DM couldn't live for a one hour flight without an UG.

It's not the UG issue that makes the tickets so bad. The bigger issues are:

-you can't select a seat until check in, so you are probably in a middle seat
-You can't make any changes to the ticket at all, so no SDC.
- I would not expect the redeposit benefit to extend to BE award tickets, because they can't be redeposited. standard tickets can, with a fee. In this case, my guess is that DL will say that there is no fee to be waived because the option just does not exist.
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