Basic Eco is now available on awards!
Dec 6, 2018 | 9:14 am
#31
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Seems like the net is they've brought in revenue fare rules to award tickets where historically award tickets essentially had fare rules that were in line with the more flexible fare classes
Dec 6, 2018 | 9:28 am
#32
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that sadly makes sense...any data points on booking a cheaper roundtrip then cancelling the return after flying the outbound with a platinum fee waiver?
Dec 6, 2018 | 9:36 am
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That's half the point of Basic Economy - force Medallions to pay for their existing benefits. So no, they have intentionally made it "not worth it". But at the expense of you now having to pay $50 to get a C+ seat whereas before they were charging you $0.
Dec 6, 2018 | 9:57 am
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Dec 6, 2018 | 10:57 am
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For me, a typical reward trip would be a short one hour flight to NYC for some shopping. So, I could live with Basic on the outbound for an hour, but, on the way back, I may need 2 or 3 checked bags for purchases I made. I don't believe it's possible to do Basic in one direction and Main Cabin in the other direction without redeeming for 2 separate one-way tickets - - so I would lose the discount when the round-trip mileage requirement is cheaper than redeeming for 2 one-ways.
Dec 6, 2018 | 11:00 am
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For me, a typical reward trip would be a short one hour flight to NYC for some shopping. So, I could live with Basic on the outbound for an hour, but, on the way back, I may need 2 or 3 checked bags for purchases I made. I don't believe it's possible to do Basic in one direction and Main Cabin in the other direction without redeeming for 2 separate one-way tickets - - so I would lose the discount when the round-trip mileage requirement is cheaper than redeeming for 2 one-ways.
Dec 6, 2018 | 11:17 am
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For me, a typical reward trip would be a short one hour flight to NYC for some shopping. So, I could live with Basic on the outbound for an hour, but, on the way back, I may need 2 or 3 checked bags for purchases I made. I don't believe it's possible to do Basic in one direction and Main Cabin in the other direction without redeeming for 2 separate one-way tickets - - so I would lose the discount when the round-trip mileage requirement is cheaper than redeeming for 2 one-ways.
Dec 6, 2018 | 11:34 am
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Dec 6, 2018 | 11:53 am
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So, I guess the main difference for DMs & PMs would be whether or not the BE Award Tix are redepositable or not. I can't imaging ANY PM or DM couldn't live for a one hour flight without an UG.
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Dec 6, 2018 | 12:04 pm
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This thread really isn't appropriate to discuss the cool and fun discount shopping in big cities around the world, but, I should probably write a book about it!
Dec 6, 2018 | 12:18 pm
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Dec 6, 2018 | 12:25 pm
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This is the final straw, I'm through as a DL elite if this is the case. DL can get bent. I'll just suck it up and start taking nonstops ex-DCA on AA. At least that airline is honest and open about how they screw over their customers, and with the new concourse, the biggest issue with AA at DCA (35X) will be gone.
Seriously these threats are useless. You will storm off to AA (and no we don't care) and someone on AA will storm off to Delta.
Different passengers, same revenue. Delta won't care.
(And yes, they will all do EXACTLY the same thing LOL!)
Dec 6, 2018 | 12:27 pm
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Hmmmmm. I just checked, and you're absolutely RIGHT! I never bought a BE ticket before, so, guess I had it in my head that it was similar to RyanAir and EasyJet where EVERYTHING costs extra!
So, I guess the main difference for DMs & PMs would be whether or not the BE Award Tix are redepositable or not. I can't imaging ANY PM or DM couldn't live for a one hour flight without an UG.
So, I guess the main difference for DMs & PMs would be whether or not the BE Award Tix are redepositable or not. I can't imaging ANY PM or DM couldn't live for a one hour flight without an UG.
I don't think so!
Dec 6, 2018 | 12:32 pm
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It's a total
-sandwich, sure, but not so drastic that I'm going to storm off or think it will kill the program.
It's a total
-sandwich, sure, but not so drastic that I'm going to storm off or think it will kill the program.
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Dec 6, 2018 | 12:33 pm
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It's not the UG issue that makes the tickets so bad. The bigger issues are:
-you can't select a seat until check in, so you are probably in a middle seat
-You can't make any changes to the ticket at all, so no SDC.
- I would not expect the redeposit benefit to extend to BE award tickets, because they can't be redeposited. standard tickets can, with a fee. In this case, my guess is that DL will say that there is no fee to be waived because the option just does not exist.