Sep 16, 2018, 8:50 am
Last edit by: N515CR
Status as of 25 Apr 2024
A220-100 cabin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhcRYQoPyZg
A220-300 cabin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkZFJqt9ons
Initial route list adapted from the Delta news hub:
Market (In-Service)
A220-100 cabin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhcRYQoPyZg
A220-300 cabin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkZFJqt9ons
Initial route list adapted from the Delta news hub:
Market (In-Service)
- New York-LGA to Boston-BOS...Feb 7 2019.
- New York-LGA to Dallas/Ft. Worth-DFW...Feb 7 2019.
- Detroit-DTW to Dallas/Ft. Worth-DFW...Feb 14 2019.
- New York-LGA to Houston-IAH...April 2019.
- Salt Lake City-SLC to Dallas/Ft. Worth-DFW...May 2019.
- Salt Lake City-SLC to San Jose-SJC...May 2019
- San Jose-SJC to Seattle-SEA...June 8 2019 (2/6 flights daily).
- Minneapolis/St. Paul-MSP to Dallas/Ft. Worth-DFW...June 2019.
- Houston-IAH to Detroit-DTW & Minneapolis/St. Paul-MSP...July 2019.
- Houston-IAH to Salt Lake City-SLC...July 2019.
- New York-JFK to Dallas/Ft. Worth-DFW...Aug 2019.
First scheduled A220-300 routes.
- Salt Lake City-SLC to Houston-IAH...started Nov 17 2020.
- Salt Lake City-SLC to San Jose-SJC...started Nov 21 2020.
- Salt Lake City-SLC to Sacramento-SMF...started Nov 25 2020.
- Salt Lake City-SLC to Austin-AUS...started Nov 27 2020.
- Salt Lake City-SLC to Denver-DEN...started Dec 18 2020.
- Salt Lake City-SLC to Dallas-DFW...started Dec 26 2020.
- Salt Lake City-SLC to Santa Ana-SNA...started Jan 4 2021.
- Salt Lake City-SLC to Nashville-BNA...started Jan 7 2021.
For those interested in the original DL order and subsequent news, here is the original thread: Delta Orders 75 CS100's.
A220-100 orders:
MSN #...Fleet ...Registration #...Delivery info and notes:
50020 8101 N101DU Delivered YMX>ATL Oct 26 2018. Entered service Feb 14 2019 DFW>DTW. ViaSat IFC.
50021 8102 N102DU Delivered YMX>ATL Dec 18 2018. Entered service Feb 7 2019 LGA>BOS. ViaSat IFC (prototype).
50022 8103 N103DU Delivered YMX>ATL Dec 8 2018. Entered service Feb 7 2019 DFW>LGA. Parked @ SBD 1/4/24. ViaSat IFC.
50023 8104 N104DU Delivered YMX>ATL Dec 31 2018. Entered service Feb 7 2019 LGA>DFW.
50024 8105 N105DU Delivered YMX>ATL Feb 16 2019. Entered service Feb 23 2019 LGA>DFW. Parked @ SBD 12/4/23. ViaSat IFC.
50025 8106 N106DU Delivered YMX>ATL Feb 22 2019. Entered service March 9 2019 DTW>DFW. Parked @ SBD 1/9/24. ViaSat IFC.
50026 8107 N107DU Delivered YMX>ATL March 1 2019. Entered service April 7 2019 DFW>LGA. Parked @ SBD 11/16/23. ViaSat IFC.
50027 8108 N108DQ Delivered YMX>ATL April 26 2019. Entered service May 3 2019 DFW>DTW.
50028 8109 N109DU Delivered YMX>ATL March 13 2019. Entered service March 22 2019 DFW>DTW.
50029 8110 N110DU Delivered YMX>ATL March 29 2019. Entered service April 10 2019 DTW>DFW. Parked @ SBD 1/17/24. ViaSat IFC.
50030 8111 N111NG Delivered YMX>ATL June 6 2019. Entered service June 14 2019 DTW>DFW.
50031 8112 N112DU Delivered YMX>ATL April 18 2019. Entered service May 1 2019 DFW>SLC.
50032 8113 N113DQ Delivered YMX>ATL May 20 2019. Entered service May 25 2019 DFW>SLC.
50033 8114 N114DU Delivered YMX>ATL May 30 2019. Entered service June 7 2019 DTW>DFW.
50034 8115 N115DU Delivered YMX>ATL June 18 2019. Entered service June 27 2019 DTW>DFW.
50035 8116 N116DU Delivered YMX>ATL June 21 2019. Entered service June 28 2019 MSP>DFW.
50036 8117 N117DU Delivered YMX>ATL June 25 2019. Entered service July 5 2019 DFW>SLC.
50037 8118 N118DU Delivered YMX>ATL June 28 2019. Entered service July 11 2019 SLC>DFW.
50038 8119 N119DU Delivered YMX>ATL July 12 2019. Entered service July 22 2019 DFW>LGA.
50039 8120 N120DU Delivered YMX>ATL July 25 2019. Entered service Aug 1 2019 DTW>EWR.
50040 8121 N121DU Delivered YMX>ATL Aug 9 2019. Entered service Aug 20 2019 DFW>DTW.
50041 8122 N122DU Delivered YMX>ATL Aug 29 2019. Entered service Sept 12 2019 DFW>DTW
50042 8123 N123DQ Delivered YMX>ATL Sept 17 2019. Entered service Sept 27 2019 DTW>IAH.
50043 8124 N124DU Delivered YMX>ATL Sept 23 2019. Entered service Oct 2 2019 MEM>DFW.
50044 8125 N125DU Delivered YMX>ATL Sept 30 2019. Entered service Oct 9 2019 LGA>IAH.
50045 8126 N126DU Delivered YMX>ATL Oct 10 2019. Entered service Oct 21 2019 SLC>SFO.
50046 8127 N127DU Delivered YMX>ATL Oct 30 2019. Entered service Nov 14 2019 SEA>DEN.
50047 8128 N128DU Delivered YMX>ATL Nov 21 2019. Entered service Nov 29 2019 SEA>DEN.
50048 8129 N129DU Delivered YMX>ATL Jan 24 2020. Entered service Feb 3 2020 LGA>BOS.
50049 8130 N130DU Delivered YMX>ATL Feb 28 2020. Entered service March 11 2020 MSP>DFW.
50050 8131 N131DU Delivered YMX>ATL March 6 2020. Entered service March 16 2020 DTW>DFW.
50051 8132 N132DU Delivered YMX>MSP Oct 22 2020. Entered service Nov 19 2020 MSP>LGA. Parked @ SBD 1/29/24. ViaSat IFC.
50052 8133 N133DU Delivered YMX>MSP Oct 23 2020. Entered service Nov 20 2020 MSP>BNA.
50053 8134 N134DU Delivered YMX>MSP Oct 29 2020. Entered service Dec 18 2020 MSP>BNA.
50054 8135 N135DQ Delivered YMX>MSP Oct 30 2020. Entered service Dec 18 2020 MSP>JFK. Parked @ SBD 1/8/24. ViaSat IFC.
50055 8136 N136DQ Delivered YMX>MSP Oct 31 2020. Entered service Jan 14 2021 MSP>LGA.
50056 8137 N137DU Delivered YMX>MSP Oct 31 2020. Entered service Jan 16 2021 MSP>LAX.
50057 8138 N138DU Delivered YMX>MSP Oct 24 2020. Entered service Dec 19 2020 MSP>LGA. Parked @ SBD 9/3/23. ViaSat IFC.
50058 8139 N139DU Delivered YMX>MSP Feb 5 2021. Entered service March 17 2020 MSP>BOS.
50059 8140 N140DU Delivered YMX>MSP Jan 29 2021. Entered service Feb 13 2021 MSP>AUS. Parked @ SBD 10/30/23. ViaSat IFC.
50061 8141 N141DU Delivered YMX>MSP March 9 2021. Entered service April 2 2021 MSP>LGA. Parked @ SBD 10/18/23. ViaSat IFC.
50060 8142 N142DU Delivered YMX>MSP Feb 18 2022. Entered service March 1 2022 MSP>ORD.
50063 8143 N143DU Delivered YMX>MSP Feb 1 2022. Entered service Feb 10 2022 MSP>JFK.
50064 8144 N144DU Delivered YMX>MSP March 8 2022. Entered service March 17 2022 BOS>CVG. Parked @ SBD 9/14/23. ViaSat IFC.
50065 8145 N145DQ Delivered YMX>MSP April 1 2022. Entered service April 12 2022 MSP>STL.
A220-300 orders
MSN #...Fleet #...Registration #...Delivery info and notes: ViaSat IFC installation in progress - 20/24
55069 8301 N301DU…Delivered BFM>MSP March 18 2021…Entered service April 1 2021 MSP>AUS. ViaSat IFC.
55070 8302 N302DU…Delivered BFM>ATL Oct 22 2020….Entered service Nov 17 2020 SLC>IAH. ViaSat IFC.
55075 8303 N303DU…Delivered BFM>ATL Oct 23 2020…Entered service Dec 8 2020 SLC>SMF. ViaSat IFC.
55080 8304 N304DU…Delivered BFM>ATL Oct 26 2020…Entered service Jan 7 2021 SLC>SNA. ViaSat IFC.
55084 8305 N305DU…Delivered BFM>ATL Oct 30 2020…Entered service Jan 7 2021 SLC>AUS. ViaSat IFC.
55085 8306 N306DU…Delivered BFM>ATL Dec 7 2020…Entered service Jan 15 2021 ATL>SEA. ViaSat IFC.
55096 8307 N307DU…Delivered BFM>MSP Feb 1 2021…Entered service Feb 19 2021 MSP>AUS. ViaSat IFC.
55101 8308 N308DU…Delivered BFM>MSP April 14 2021…Entered service May 1 2021 MSP>BOS. ViaSat IFC.
55107 8309 N309DU…Delivered BFM>MSP June 10 2021…Entered service June 26 2021 MSP>LGA. ViaSat IFC.
55142 8310 N310DU…Delivered BFM>MSP Dec 16 2021… Entered service Dec 26 2021 MSP>LGA.
55153 8311 N311DU…Delivered BFM>MSP June 16 2022…Entered service June 26 2022 MSP>SNA.
55170 8312 N312DU…Delivered BFM>MSP Sept 30 2022…Entered service Oct 14 2022 SEA>SMF.
55175 8313 N313DU…Delivered BFM>ATL Nov 8 2022…Entered service Nov 24 2022 SLC>STL.
55192 8314 N314DU…Delivered BFM>MSP Feb 24 2023…Entered service March 15 2023 MSP>DFW. ViaSat IFC.
55195 8315 N315DU…Delivered BFM>ATL Dec 30 2022…Entered service Jan 22 2023 SLC>DEN. ViaSat IFC.
55207 8316 N316DU...Delivered BFM>MSP June 20 2023…Entered service July 8 2023 MSP>SAT. ViaSat IFC.
55212 8317 N317DU...Delivered BFM>MSP Aug 1 2023…Entered service Aug 11 2023 MSP>IAH. ViaSat IFC.
55220 8318 N318DU...Delivered BFM>MSP Sept 1 2023…Entered service Sept 13 2023 MSP>IAH. ViaSat IFC.
55228 8319 N319DU...Delivered BFM>MSP Oct 31 2023…Entered service Nov 10 2023 MSP>ORD. ViaSat IFC.
55237 8320 N320DU...Delivered BFM>MSP Nov 21 2023…Entered service Dec 2 2023 MSP>DFW. ViaSat IFC.
55256 8321 N321DU...Delivered YMX>MSP Dec 19 2023...Entered service Dec 29 2023 MSP>SJC. ViaSat IFC.
55266 8322 N322DU...Delivered BFM>MSP March 1 2024…Entered service March 10 2024 MSP>DFW. ViaSat IFC.
55259 8323 N323DU...Delivered YMX>MSP Dec 21 2023...Entered service Dec 30 2023 MSP>JFK. ViaSat IFC.
55261 8324 N324DU...Delivered YMX>MSP Dec 28 2023...Entered service Jan 7 2024 MSP>DFW. ViaSat IFC.
55272 8325 N325DU...Delivered YMX>MSP Apr 18 2024...In induction...showing service entry Apr 27 2024. ViaSat IFC.
55xxx 8326 N326DU…2024 delivery.
55xxx 8327 N327DU…2024 delivery.
55xxx 8328 N328DU…2024 delivery.
55xxx 8329 N329DU…2024 delivery.
55xxx 8330 N330DU…2024 delivery.
Number of A223s being delivered per year as of 12/31/23:
2024 7
2025 8
2026 14
2027 & later 48
Final Total 86
Link to Master Thread
A220 Consolidated Discussion Thread
Jul 16, 2019, 6:31 am
#391
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Flew F in one of these birds from DFW to MSP last week. I was very excited for the flight, but was left a bit disappointed. While the IFE was nice, I felt it lacking in User Experience (something that can easily be fixed). Additionally, I found the center console to be rather slim and can only hold 1 drink up top as it isn't very wide. Maneuvering and retrieving a drink in the cup holder (which only fits the slim plastic cups) was awkward.
This particular aircraft made an incredible groan every time it turned while taxiing, as if something wasn't lubricated properly. Flight attendant chimes were going off every 10 seconds for the first 35 minutes of the flight, as well, which was incredibly annoying.
The big window portals were nice and the WiFi was quick, but other than that, I was left less than impressed.
This particular aircraft made an incredible groan every time it turned while taxiing, as if something wasn't lubricated properly. Flight attendant chimes were going off every 10 seconds for the first 35 minutes of the flight, as well, which was incredibly annoying.
The big window portals were nice and the WiFi was quick, but other than that, I was left less than impressed.
Jul 16, 2019, 2:26 pm
#393
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Gotta remember- DL passed several times on the now-A220 and was perfectly intent on operating second-hand E90... until Bombardier offered a deal so good, Boeing sued. In DL's defense, while their website flags flights operated by the A220, they did little marketing for the aircraft; most of the hoopla, "game changing" portrayal surrounding the aircraft was manufactured by the DL fan boy internet community. And thus while the A220 is a fine aircraft, it will never live up to the reputation created for it. And personally, as somebody who sits in the back way too often, I would've preferred the 2x2 offered by the E90.
Jul 16, 2019, 2:41 pm
#394
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Gotta remember- DL passed several times on the now-A220 and was perfectly intent on operating second-hand E90... until Bombardier offered a deal so good, Boeing sued. In DL's defense, while their website flags flights operated by the A220, they did little marketing for the aircraft; most of the hoopla, "game changing" portrayal surrounding the aircraft was manufactured by the DL fan boy internet community. And thus while the A220 is a fine aircraft, it will never live up to the reputation created for it. And personally, as somebody who sits in the back way too often, I would've preferred the 2x2 offered by the E90.
And yes technically it's true that DL didn't buy this plane right at launch, but that's just DL's style. DL rarely buys ANYTHING right at launch, preferring to wait until the kinks have been worked out and the prices have fallen. So for you to try and draw a conclusion about DL's opinion of the plane based on their delay is, at best, disingenuous.
Jul 16, 2019, 3:37 pm
#395
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I don't see a whole lot of truth in there. As far as I can tell, DL has marketed the A220 almost as much as they marketed the A350. DL has been very clear that they are planning to use the A220 to fly to competitor hubs and on very competitive routes. It's pretty clear that DL sees this plane as a way to win new customers.
And yes technically it's true that DL didn't buy this plane right at launch, but that's just DL's style. DL rarely buys ANYTHING right at launch, preferring to wait until the kinks have been worked out and the prices have fallen. So for you to try and draw a conclusion about DL's opinion of the plane based on their delay is, at best, disingenuous.
And yes technically it's true that DL didn't buy this plane right at launch, but that's just DL's style. DL rarely buys ANYTHING right at launch, preferring to wait until the kinks have been worked out and the prices have fallen. So for you to try and draw a conclusion about DL's opinion of the plane based on their delay is, at best, disingenuous.
Fact is, DL heavily marketed the 350 to corporate clients. They mentioned little more than a peep about the A220. Most of the marketing has been done by internet DL fan boys, who desperately want their fairy tale to be true. Nor was "DL being DL" - the CSeries was on life support and DL rejected it, satisfied its E90 decision. DL had no idea that the Canadian government was going to toss cash into the CSeries program, which enabled Bombardier to make an offer DL couldn't refuse. And those E90? DL was still stuck with them, and sent them mostly to AM.
The A220 is a fine aircraft, but it will never live up to the reputation the DL fan boy community manufactured for it.
Jul 16, 2019, 4:12 pm
#396
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I read your post with anticipation, eager to see which fallacies I had made, and which facts you had to present. Sadly you listed none of either. Just a whole lot of whining and name calling. I'm not interested in that kind of debate.
Jul 16, 2019, 7:33 pm
#397
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Please show me where I engaged in name calling or showed any disrespect toward you. I’m sorry you were offended because I assert your argument was based on fallacies, but claiming that DL deploying the 220 on competitor hubs for competitive reasons is exactly just that - a fallacy.
Jul 17, 2019, 3:47 am
#398
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Jul 17, 2019, 2:15 pm
#400
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Please show me where I engaged in name calling or showed any disrespect toward you. I’m sorry you were offended because I assert your argument was based on fallacies, but claiming that DL deploying the 220 on competitor hubs for competitive reasons is exactly just that - a fallacy.
I'll let you post a link to DL's miniseries about the A350. (Don't waste your time, there isn't one).
What did DL name it's A220 miniseries? "Best in Class". I do see your point, with a name like that, it's obvious that DL has very mixed feelings about this plane
You called your critics "fanboys" over and over again. That's name-calling. I never said it was directed at me.
I didn't say I was offended, quite the opposite, I said I was eager to see what fallacies I had made. I've taken several logic classes and I was genuinely curious which fallacies I had made. Unfortunately, you didn't actually mention any.
Jul 17, 2019, 3:25 pm
#401
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Here's a link to the multi-part miniseries that DL created talking about its A220: https://news.delta.com/best-class-bi...220-miniseries
I'll let you post a link to DL's miniseries about the A350. (Don't waste your time, there isn't one).
What did DL name it's A220 miniseries? "Best in Class". I do see your point, with a name like that, it's obvious that DL has very mixed feelings about this plane
You called your critics "fanboys" over and over again. That's name-calling. I never said it was directed at me.
I didn't say I was offended, quite the opposite, I said I was eager to see what fallacies I had made. I've taken several logic classes and I was genuinely curious which fallacies I had made. Unfortunately, you didn't actually mention any.
I'll let you post a link to DL's miniseries about the A350. (Don't waste your time, there isn't one).
What did DL name it's A220 miniseries? "Best in Class". I do see your point, with a name like that, it's obvious that DL has very mixed feelings about this plane
You called your critics "fanboys" over and over again. That's name-calling. I never said it was directed at me.
I didn't say I was offended, quite the opposite, I said I was eager to see what fallacies I had made. I've taken several logic classes and I was genuinely curious which fallacies I had made. Unfortunately, you didn't actually mention any.
Jul 17, 2019, 4:51 pm
#402
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Here's a link to the multi-part miniseries that DL created talking about its A220: https://news.delta.com/best-class-bi...220-miniseries
I'll let you post a link to DL's miniseries about the A350. (Don't waste your time, there isn't one).
What did DL name it's A220 miniseries? "Best in Class". I do see your point, with a name like that, it's obvious that DL has very mixed feelings about this plane
I'll let you post a link to DL's miniseries about the A350. (Don't waste your time, there isn't one).
What did DL name it's A220 miniseries? "Best in Class". I do see your point, with a name like that, it's obvious that DL has very mixed feelings about this plane
You called your critics "fanboys" over and over again. That's name-calling. I never said it was directed at me.
I didn't say I was offended, quite the opposite, I said I was eager to see what fallacies I had made. I've taken several logic classes and I was genuinely curious which fallacies I had made. Unfortunately, you didn't actually mention any.
I didn't say I was offended, quite the opposite, I said I was eager to see what fallacies I had made. I've taken several logic classes and I was genuinely curious which fallacies I had made. Unfortunately, you didn't actually mention any.
FACT: After the CS lost orders to UA (73G) and DL (twice, the second a reaffirming of its previous order for secondhand E90), Bombardier acknowledged that the lack of interest in the CS had pushed it to the brink of bankruptcy.
FACT: The Canadian government bailed out Bombardier. Bombardier acknowledged that some of this money would be used to secure a major order for the type, which they then hoped would stimulate interest in the program.
FACT: Bombardier offered DL a deal so good, Boeing filed a petition with the USITC. (Note that credible industry sources claim Bombardier allegedly offered DL credits for losses on flipping the E90s.)
Here's what you responded with: (A) "I don't see a whole lot of truth in there ... (B) DL rarely buys ANYTHING right at launch, preferring to wait until the kinks have been worked out and the (C) prices have fallen."
a) What did I write that wasn't factual?
b) 100% FALSE - Delta was just the second consumer to take delivery of the CS/220, taking on the ninth frame produced.
c) FALSE - Prices didn't fall; Bombardier offered a one-time, deep discount (made possible by the bailout money). Remember - DL turned down the CS and reaffirmed its commitment to (secondhand) E90 -- there's simply no way they could've foreseen the deal they ultimately were offered.
I reiterated this in my subsequent posting, but again, you said I offered no "facts" when I'm one of the few participating being here.
And no, I don't describe my critics as "DL fanboys" but rather the people who continue to manufacture the narrative that the 220 is a super competitive, game changing aircraft. If that were the case, why did UA recently say the plane was a poor fit for its network? Why did DL order the E90, knowing that AA can't wait to dump theirs? As I mentioned... the 220 is not a game changing aircraft, but rather a good fit for DL's network (which relies on monopolizing smaller, less competitive markets at DTW, MSP, SLC, etc.), offered at a price it couldn't refuse, and maintains compliance with its agreement with the ALPA. Few 220 are being placed on routes to competitors' hub and virtually none are being placed on hypercompeitive routes like LAS-LAX, LAS-SFO, the Shuttle, etc. That the 220 was placed on routes like DTW/MSP-DFW/IAH has more to do with natural upgauging -- these are among the highest volume routes in the DL network still operated primarily with CR7/E7X.
I've been on it several times -- it's a fine aircraft, but it will never live up to the hype manufactured by a handful of DL fanboys.
Last edited by Bagels; Jul 18, 2019 at 12:32 pm
Jul 26, 2019, 12:04 pm
#405
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Analysis: The Airbus A220 Is Redefining Regional Ops At Delta
https://airwaysmag.com/airlines/anal...g-it-at-delta/
Conclusion:
Conclusion:
Delta knows what it’s doing. It says a lot that American and United haven’t even bothered to change the conversation about the A220 from its connection with current scope clause issues to thinking about this aircraft in terms of its mainline operations. It’s that lack of imagination could continue to create problems for those two carriers.