777 D1 Suite Refit - PS + Comfort+

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Delta 777-200ER/LR Conversions to 7HD & 7HB. Pre-mods config is 37J/36W/218Y...Post-mods config is (temporarily) 28J/48W/220Y (7HD/7HB)...and will become 28J/48W/90Y+/122Y (7CD/7CB).

Modifications are taking place at SIN and the entry and exit dates are based on SIN time (GMT + 8 hrs). Comfort + installation was done at ATL on all the 7HD>7CD conversions, and on 7106. The remaining 9 LRs will have the C + cabins installed at SIN.

777-200ER 8/8 7HD...8/8 7CD.
N860DA 7001 - Entered Jan 2 2019; finished Feb 3 2019. Entered ATL March 12 2019 for C + installation; finished March 15 2019.
N861DA 7002 - Entered Jan 14 2019; finished Feb 17 2019. Entered ATL March 13 2019 for C+ installation; finished March 17 2019.
N862DA 7003 - Entered Nov 29 2018; finished Jan 5 2019. Entered ATL March 6 2019 for C+ installation; finished March 10 2019.
N863DA 7004 - Entered Feb 17 2018; finished June 6 2018. Entered ATL Feb 17 2019 for C + installation; finished March 3 2019.
N864DA 7005 - Entered Sept 18 2018; finished Oct 22 2018. Entered ATL March 3 2019 for C+ installation; finished March 7 2019.
N865DA 7006 - Entered Nov 16 2018; finished Dec 18 2018. Entered ATL Feb 21 2019 for C + installation; finished Feb 27 2019.
N866DA 7007 - Entered Oct 24 2018; finished Nov 27 2018. Entered ATL Jan 28 2019 for C + installation; finished Feb 16 2019.
N867DA 7008 - Entered Feb 4 2019: finished March 11 2019. Entered ATL March 25 2019 for C + installation; finished March 30 2019.

777-200LR: 2/10 7HB...2/10 7CB.
N701DN 7101
N702DN 7102
N703DN 7103
N704DK 7104 - Entered April 4 2019; est. exit May 10 2019.
N705DN 7105 - Entered Feb 25 2018; finished March 28 2019. C+ installed at SIN.
N706DN 7106 - Entered Sept 6 2018; finished Nov 1 2018. Entered ATL for C + installation March 1 2019; finished March 14 2019.
N707DN 7107 - Entered March 23 2019; est. exit April 30 2019.
N708DN 7108
N709DN 7109
N710DN 7110

Delta confirms first route with 777 offering Delta One Suites, Premium Select, Comfort+ and Main Cabin: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delt...nces-marc.html
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Old Nov 14, 18, 8:02 pm
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Do the refurbed 777s have air vents above the center seats? I thought they left the overhead bins in over the middle seats on the 777s which hopefully means the air vents are still there too...thanks
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Old Nov 14, 18, 8:51 pm
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Originally Posted by btonkid12345 View Post
Do the refurbed 777s have air vents above the center seats? I thought they left the overhead bins in over the middle seats on the 777s which hopefully means the air vents are still there too...thanks
Yes, the 777s have air vents above the center seats.
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Old Nov 14, 18, 9:11 pm
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Originally Posted by ChamplinAl View Post
It appears that ship N865DA (B777-200ER) is the next aircraft to get converted, It flew MSP-NRT today and probably onto SIN very soon. One would then assume that ship N866DA is ready to RTS (return to service) - basically a swap. So, DL is moving along at a nice pace. Not quite sure why there is a lull in getting the LR's done - guess there is no pressure into finishing them.
Looks like you're right on 7006 as it's on ferry flights to SIN.

Re the 77Ls, FWIW, there's commonly some lag between the completion of the first aircraft to the second in a new mod due to STC and ironing out any issues.
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Old Nov 14, 18, 10:56 pm
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Originally Posted by btonkid12345 View Post
Do the refurbed 777s have air vents above the center seats? I thought they left the overhead bins in over the middle seats on the 777s which hopefully means the air vents are still there too...thanks

I hope they never make this mistake again. I will actively book away from the A350 in J if I can't get an aisle row. I do wish that DL would put the J gaspers in the side of the actual seats so that they are easy to reach, like VS J.
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Old Nov 19, 18, 5:26 am
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Is there a thread yet on the Y seats on these aircraft? I'm flying a refurbished 777 from MSP-CDG in December and I want to know about rows 30 and 31 with the two seats together. It appears that they aren't exit rows and aren't near a restroom, so I'm curious if there are any downsides to picking them. (apart from my assumption that our seats in 31HJ would have the IFE boxes from row 30 under the seats, but that's usually not an issue for me)

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Old Nov 25, 18, 3:32 pm
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Looks like N866DA comes out of mods tomorrow and is planned to operate DL 120 HND-MSP on Nov 27. Next for mods appears to be N862DA which is currently in MSP and would be ready as an equipment swap for the Nov 26 27 DL 121 MSP-HND if N866DA is indeed ready tomorrow.

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Old Nov 25, 18, 5:13 pm
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These 777 mods are seriously having me re-think my loyalty to Delta. As a DM, I've enjoyed the free C+ for years. I have 3 trips to Japan in the spring, and no C+ on the MSP-HND route anymore. PS is $1300 extra for my dates. Also trying to use a GUC, can't confirm D1 in advance... and definitely not wasting one on PS. Ugh. Big time devaluation.
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Old Nov 25, 18, 6:55 pm
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Originally Posted by bretthexum View Post
These 777 mods are seriously having me re-think my loyalty to Delta. As a DM, I've enjoyed the free C+ for years. I have 3 trips to Japan in the spring, and no C+ on the MSP-HND route anymore. PS is $1300 extra for my dates. Also trying to use a GUC, can't confirm D1 in advance... and definitely not wasting one on PS. Ugh. Big time devaluation.
DL doesn't mean it as a devaluation. Proper international premium economy is very popular and is becoming standard offering in the industry. It's a quite reasonable decision DL has made. I get that none of that actually helps you and your decision to look elsewhere is quite reasonable too.
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Originally Posted by bretthexum View Post
These 777 mods are seriously having me re-think my loyalty to Delta. As a DM, I've enjoyed the free C+ for years. I have 3 trips to Japan in the spring, and no C+ on the MSP-HND route anymore. PS is $1300 extra for my dates. Also trying to use a GUC, can't confirm D1 in advance... and definitely not wasting one on PS. Ugh. Big time devaluation.
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DL doesn't mean it as a devaluation. Proper international premium economy is very popular and is becoming standard offering in the industry. It's a quite reasonable decision DL has made. I get that none of that actually helps you and your decision to look elsewhere is quite reasonable too.

Yes, agreed. Also, and sorry for being blunt, but I would guess that DM's who are flying international coach are not the customers DL is worried about loosing. And remember that there are still preferred seats and exit rows.
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Originally Posted by jdrtravel View Post
Yes, agreed. Also, and sorry for being blunt, but I would guess that DM's who are flying international coach are not the customers DL is worried about loosing. And remember that there are still preferred seats and exit rows.
Strongly disagree. A US based DM is spending a minimum of $15k, doesn't matter what class they sit in, I don't think Delta wants that money to walk out the door -- that's not a once a year flyer complaining in a vacuum. Some of us have corporate policies that require Y but that doesn't mean the fares are cheap.

However Bastian has suggested that C+ is eventually coming back the 777 and the A330-neos will presumably have it so I would think it's only a matter of time before they come back to the A350 so that the entire fleet has it again. It's the logical move from a company that positions (and mostly delivers) itself as the airline for the business travelers whatever class you are traveling in.
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Originally Posted by Duke787 View Post
Strongly disagree. A US based DM is spending a minimum of $15k, doesn't matter what class they sit in, I don't think Delta wants that money to walk out the door -- that's not a once a year flyer complaining in a vacuum. Some of us have corporate policies that require Y but that doesn't mean the fares are cheap.

However Bastian has suggested that C+ is eventually coming back the 777 and the A330-neos will presumably have it so I would think it's only a matter of time before they come back to the A350 so that the entire fleet has it again. It's the logical move from a company that positions (and mostly delivers) itself as the airline for the business travelers whatever class you are traveling in.
This is my situation. I can only book Y, and there's no way in hell I'm paying 90% more out of pocket for a PS seat. If revenue management wasn't so tough on releasing D1 GUC space in advance, it wouldn't be an issue.

The thing is... I'm going to spend air travel $$ each year, and a lot of it. I realize each persons situation is different. Gambling with sitting in regular Y for 12 hours is not something I am interested in doing. Sorry to turn this into a Delta rant!
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Ship #7007, N866DA, has finished mods and is currently ferrying from SIN>HND, and will then operate as DL120 from HND>MSP later on Tuesday afternoon. Ship #7003 , N862DA, will replace it and arrive at SIN late Wednesday/earlyThursday.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N866DA

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N862DA
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Anyone know what N707DN is doing in Amarillo (AMA)? Wikipedia says lots of aircraft painting goes on there but the frame has been there for a week and a half now.
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Anyone know what N707DN is doing in Amarillo (AMA)? Wikipedia says lots of aircraft painting goes on there but the frame has been there for a week and a half now.
It's definitely there for painting. Perhaps there's a delay due to Thanksgiving week?
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Old Nov 27, 18, 3:50 pm
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Will we get C+?

Originally Posted by bretthexum View Post
These 777 mods are seriously having me re-think my loyalty to Delta. As a DM, I've enjoyed the free C+ for years. I have 3 trips to Japan in the spring, and no C+ on the MSP-HND route anymore. PS is $1300 extra for my dates. Also trying to use a GUC, can't confirm D1 in advance... and definitely not wasting one on PS. Ugh. Big time devaluation.
Jason Rabinowitz (@AirlineFlyer) has insisted several times on twitter that Delta will add back C+ to the 777s, and install it in the A350s. But not until they sort out the fare bucket kludge they came up with for C+ and PS (the one that throws off Gflights searches that return 'premium economy' on DLs A330s. Sorry, googlz, that isn't P.E.!)

When they'll add it is unclear. I did read a summer interview with Bastian that left room for Delta to have a four-class (three-and-a-half class?) aircraft, and one article about the new A339 add-on order also suggests it will ship new with J/W/Y+/Y.

A different article says that Delta will have P.S. installed "across its entire international widebody fleet by 2021". Only way I see that happening is if the beefed up A339 order means any not-then retired 763s will be relegated to only Hawaii, transcon and a few high-density domestics by 2021, because I don't believe there's any way DL is putting PS on those.

In the interim, as a PM, I do agree that not having an option similar to instant C+ on these current PS equipped aircraft is a devaluation. The very limited exit row availability will get more fierce to grab.
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