C+ Upgrades Coming to TATL Soon?
Oct 30, 2017, 9:35 am
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Still, the routes with APD (or similar taxes/fees) are a significant fraction of DL's TATL traffic. In fact, most DL passengers on the LHR routes would be originating there rather than connecting (like CDG and AMS) since VS doesn't offer many connecting flights and KLM/AF (and AZ, RIP, etc.) connections would be pretty much limited to their hubs, which would just needlessly add a connection.
Oct 30, 2017, 9:48 am
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I have an e-mail from Delta confirming my complimentary upgrade to C+ on a TATL round trip. I got "enhanced" back to regular coach over the weekend as well. I am going to wait a day or two to see whether this is just one of those Delta IT features that gets fixed and then call the Platinum line and see what they can do.
In any case, I think this is definitely a sign of enhancements to come, no more upgrades to C+ for elites on TATL is on the horizon.
In any case, I think this is definitely a sign of enhancements to come, no more upgrades to C+ for elites on TATL is on the horizon.
Oct 30, 2017, 9:50 am
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The difference here is the implementation of the W fare class and the upgrade process was done with the usual Delta care and attention to details.
Oct 30, 2017, 9:54 am
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The point is that the LHR (and other British airports subject to APD) flights are a significant portion of DL's TATL traffic, with very few of the passengers on these flights doing connections at LHR (or elsewhere in Great Britain) from outside of the UK, so that very few on these flights would be exempt from APD.
Oct 30, 2017, 9:55 am
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I don't know if I would go that far. I think we will see the same rules as we currently do on deep South America and TPAC flights (i.e. an upgrade vs. seat selection).
The difference here is the implementation of the W fare class and the upgrade process was done with the usual Delta care and attention to details.
The difference here is the implementation of the W fare class and the upgrade process was done with the usual Delta care and attention to details.
Oct 30, 2017, 10:12 am
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I don't know if I would go that far. I think we will see the same rules as we currently do on deep South America and TPAC flights (i.e. an upgrade vs. seat selection).
The difference here is the implementation of the W fare class and the upgrade process was done with the usual Delta care and attention to details.
The difference here is the implementation of the W fare class and the upgrade process was done with the usual Delta care and attention to details.
Oct 30, 2017, 10:20 am
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The difference is that S. American flights have had the C+ as an upgrade for quite some time. The change here is that TATL flights did not (until this past weekend). Instead, TATL flights were managed as a seat selection charge rather than a different class of service.
Oct 30, 2017, 11:13 am
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http://news.delta.com/delta-comfort-...c-destinations
Posted on Twitter by the news hub, but scarce on detail.
Posted on Twitter by the news hub, but scarce on detail.
Oct 30, 2017, 11:25 am
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From the Medaion Benefits page:
For flights that depart January 22, 2018, and beyond, Medallion Members will also be eligible to request automatic Complimentary Upgrades to Delta Comfort+ on all Delta flights to/from Europe, Africa, India, and the Middle East.
For flights that depart January 22, 2018, and beyond, Medallion Members will also be eligible to request automatic Complimentary Upgrades to Delta Comfort+ on all Delta flights to/from Europe, Africa, India, and the Middle East.
Oct 30, 2017, 11:27 am
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I suspect the most likely reason for the delay with TATL flights is that DL had previously been using W fares for partner Premium Economy seats on VS, AF, and AZ. They have been moving those partner PE seats over to P/A/G fare classes over the last year. Now that they are moved, it has freed up the W fare class to be used for C+ seats.
Oct 30, 2017, 11:44 am
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It's all seriously messed up right now.
All TATL flights that are now faring C+ (which isn't all of them, for example AMS-PDX isn't) are showing as "Not Upgrade Eligible to Comfort+" and the fare differences are hilarious. I'm seeing £500 one way sometimes, then if you book it you're instantly presented with a buy-up at 1/5 the price
Intriguingly for dummy bookings out of LHR the buy-up cost is £74.95, almost exactly the increase in APD. I did bookings with and without my SM number and the price is the same.
Some real answers from @SkyMilesTeam would be greatly appreciated. I certainly won't be booking any more TATL travel on DL until the upgrades are sorted out.
All TATL flights that are now faring C+ (which isn't all of them, for example AMS-PDX isn't) are showing as "Not Upgrade Eligible to Comfort+" and the fare differences are hilarious. I'm seeing £500 one way sometimes, then if you book it you're instantly presented with a buy-up at 1/5 the price
Intriguingly for dummy bookings out of LHR the buy-up cost is £74.95, almost exactly the increase in APD. I did bookings with and without my SM number and the price is the same.
Some real answers from @SkyMilesTeam would be greatly appreciated. I certainly won't be booking any more TATL travel on DL until the upgrades are sorted out.
Oct 30, 2017, 12:09 pm
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http://news.delta.com/delta-comfort-...c-destinations
Posted on Twitter by the news hub, but scarce on detail.
Posted on Twitter by the news hub, but scarce on detail.
Delta continues to expand Delta Comfort+ fares to more global markets, making it easier to shop and buy Delta's menu of products.
Effective Oct. 28, Delta will begin selling Delta Comfort+ as a fare for flights departing Jan. 22, 2018, and beyond in most markets within the trans-Atlantic region including flights from North America to Europe, the Middle East and Africa.
In March 2015, Delta introduced Delta Comfort+ as the airline's industry-leading extra legroom product experience that offers Sky Priority boarding with dedicated overhead bin space, and complimentary, branded snacks and premium beverages on flights more than 250 miles. Delta Comfort+ customers on long-haul international flights are also treated to Rest and Refresh kits with eye shades, ear plugs and a dental kit featuring Colgate toothpaste.
Since then, the popularity of Delta Comfort+ has surged and Delta has continued to increase the number of Delta Comfort+ seats to all mainline aircraft.
In November 2015, Delta began selling Delta Comfort+ as a fare for travel in the U.S. and Canada – previously customers were able to purchase Delta Comfort+ as an add-on seat product. Over the past few years the product has continued to expand, with the airline offering Delta Comfort + as a fare to all destinations in the Asia-Pacific and Latin America/Caribbean regions, as well as the U.S. and Canada, as of May 2017.
Effective Oct. 28, Delta will begin selling Delta Comfort+ as a fare for flights departing Jan. 22, 2018, and beyond in most markets within the trans-Atlantic region including flights from North America to Europe, the Middle East and Africa.
In March 2015, Delta introduced Delta Comfort+ as the airline's industry-leading extra legroom product experience that offers Sky Priority boarding with dedicated overhead bin space, and complimentary, branded snacks and premium beverages on flights more than 250 miles. Delta Comfort+ customers on long-haul international flights are also treated to Rest and Refresh kits with eye shades, ear plugs and a dental kit featuring Colgate toothpaste.
Since then, the popularity of Delta Comfort+ has surged and Delta has continued to increase the number of Delta Comfort+ seats to all mainline aircraft.
In November 2015, Delta began selling Delta Comfort+ as a fare for travel in the U.S. and Canada – previously customers were able to purchase Delta Comfort+ as an add-on seat product. Over the past few years the product has continued to expand, with the airline offering Delta Comfort + as a fare to all destinations in the Asia-Pacific and Latin America/Caribbean regions, as well as the U.S. and Canada, as of May 2017.
The bottom part to me means that Europe / MEA will be following the AP/LA/NA model going forward.
There is also a part where they say "most" (bolded above by me) that may suggest that for UK they will not implement this due to APD issues.
Oct 30, 2017, 12:31 pm
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However, it's already been done for LHR, GLA and EDI. Check the APD on this departure out of LHR on 1/22:
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Oct 30, 2017, 12:58 pm
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Asia isn't included, so is there a change for flights that still have C+ on these routes (i.e., not the A350 when it appears).
Oct 30, 2017, 1:05 pm
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Medallion Members are eligible to request automatic Complimentary Upgrades to Delta Comfort+ on:
all flights within the U.S. 50 and Canada
all flights within Latin America/Caribbean and Asia Pacific markets, including China and Hong Kong
For flights that depart January 22, 2018, and beyond, Medallion Members will also be eligible to request automatic Complimentary Upgrades to Delta Comfort+ on all Delta flights to/from Europe, Africa, India, and the Middle East.