Community
Wiki Posts
Search

C+ Upgrades Coming to TATL Soon?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 29, 2017, 10:11 am
  #16  
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Programs: DL, Marriott & IHG Platty; HH Diamonte
Posts: 861
Probably just the fri/sat DL screw-up. LOL

I'm not sure about you, but to me it is hilariously sad that a major company like DL is known by those in FT to have weekly programming screw ups....unbelievable in reality.
pharmawalk is offline  
Old Oct 29, 2017, 5:24 pm
  #17  
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: YVR
Programs: DL Gold, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond, Best Western Diamond Selec
Posts: 539
Is TATL C+ really worth it for Medallions?

I'm a Silver, I'm currently holding exit seats both ways on TATL for my upcoming trip. In Y, we get free booze, too. I get priority boardings, anyways.

Only thing I'll get with C+ are 'up to' 50% more recline and 'up to' 9" screen, and I guess everything else is same for Medallions?
maverikbc is offline  
Old Oct 29, 2017, 6:05 pm
  #18  
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Seattle, WA
Programs: DL Diamond 1.7MM, Starlux Insighter, Bonvoy Titanium, Hilton Gold, Hertz PC
Posts: 3,947
I definitely lost my Comfort+ seats on a JFK-ZRH flight, and the Comfort+ section is grayed out... but no option to request the upgrade.

This is really, really lousy. When they introduced C+ as a fare on other routes, they preserved existing seat assignments when doing so...
BenA is offline  
Old Oct 29, 2017, 6:17 pm
  #19  
TTT
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: 45° North
Programs: DL DM MM, HH Diamond
Posts: 10,196
Originally Posted by BenA
I definitely lost my Comfort+ seats on a JFK-ZRH flight, and the Comfort+ section is grayed out... but no option to request the upgrade.

This is really, really lousy. When they introduced C+ as a fare on other routes, they preserved existing seat assignments when doing so...
Yeah, this seems like a bit of a cluster. I hope it gets sorted out by tomorrow...

@SkyMilesTeam - any comment?
TTT is offline  
Old Oct 29, 2017, 6:55 pm
  #20  
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 277
Originally Posted by maverikbc
Is TATL C+ really worth it for Medallions?

I'm a Silver, I'm currently holding exit seats both ways on TATL for my upcoming trip. In Y, we get free booze, too. I get priority boardings, anyways.

Only thing I'll get with C+ are 'up to' 50% more recline and 'up to' 9" screen, and I guess everything else is same for Medallions?
There are a lot more Comfort+ than exit row seats available, plus they fewer issues with overhead bin space and sometimes more power outlets.
gregsfortytwo is offline  
Old Oct 29, 2017, 7:00 pm
  #21  
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,417
Originally Posted by maverikbc
Is TATL C+ really worth it for Medallions?

I'm a Silver, I'm currently holding exit seats both ways on TATL for my upcoming trip. In Y, we get free booze, too. I get priority boardings, anyways.

Only thing I'll get with C+ are 'up to' 50% more recline and 'up to' 9" screen, and I guess everything else is same for Medallions?
Isn't the "up to 9" screen" exactly the same screen as in the regular coach seats? AFAIK when DL introduced C+, they didn't change the seats beyond making the pitch slightly greater and making the covers look slightly different.
MSPeconomist is offline  
Old Oct 29, 2017, 7:07 pm
  #22  
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: MSN
Programs: Delta DM, Bonvoy LT Titanium, Hertz PC
Posts: 1,987
Why did they differentiate between TATL and TPAC C+ in the first place? I was not around for that.
bergamini is offline  
Old Oct 29, 2017, 7:10 pm
  #23  
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,417
Originally Posted by bergamini
Why did they differentiate between TATL and TPAC C+ in the first place? I was not around for that.
One hypothesis that someone pointed out earlier in this thread is that TATL flights (at least westbound) are subject to EC261 regulations and in particular the 75% refund requirement for downgrades, but not for loss of special paid seats.
MSPeconomist is offline  
Old Oct 29, 2017, 7:11 pm
  #24  
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Seattle, WA
Programs: DL Diamond 1.7MM, Starlux Insighter, Bonvoy Titanium, Hilton Gold, Hertz PC
Posts: 3,947
Originally Posted by bergamini
Why did they differentiate between TATL and TPAC C+ in the first place? I was not around for that.
TPAC, Delta controls their own destiny. TATL, Air France and KLM are in a joint venture with DL, and making sure all the corner cases were covered was harder (like allowing Medallions access to C+ when they book an AF/KL flight number on a DL operated flight...)
BenA is offline  
Old Oct 29, 2017, 7:33 pm
  #25  
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: YVR
Programs: DL Gold, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond, Best Western Diamond Selec
Posts: 539
Originally Posted by gregsfortytwo
There are a lot more Comfort+ than exit row seats available, plus they fewer issues with overhead bin space and sometimes more power outlets.
As I wrote earlier, I get priority boardings anyway, overhead bin space is almost guaranteed.

Besides more power outlets, what else 'a lot more' with C+ than Medallions who already hold exit seats?
maverikbc is offline  
Old Oct 29, 2017, 8:48 pm
  #26  
dw
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: NYC/LA
Programs: DL Plat, AA Plat Pro, Marriott Titanium, IHG Diamond Amb
Posts: 7,489
Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
One hypothesis that someone pointed out earlier in this thread is that TATL flights (at least westbound) are subject to EC261 regulations and in particular the 75% refund requirement for downgrades, but not for loss of special paid seats.
Another hypothesis involved the APD for LHR flights- that it would be significant higher if C+ was considered a different class from economy.
dw is online now  
Old Oct 29, 2017, 8:57 pm
  #27  
dw
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: NYC/LA
Programs: DL Plat, AA Plat Pro, Marriott Titanium, IHG Diamond Amb
Posts: 7,489
Originally Posted by dw
Another hypothesis involved the APD for LHR flights- that it would be significant higher if C+ was considered a different class from economy.
And.... it looks like DL has gotten comfortable with that. Just checked JFK-LHR for the spring, and DL is in fact collecting the premium class APD ($200+) for Comfort+ (vs $100+ for economy).
dw is online now  
Old Oct 29, 2017, 9:01 pm
  #28  
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,417
Originally Posted by dw
Another hypothesis involved the APD for LHR flights- that it would be significant higher if C+ was considered a different class from economy.
DL could treat the LHR flights differently to avoid this issue.
MSPeconomist is offline  
Old Oct 29, 2017, 9:09 pm
  #29  
dw
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: NYC/LA
Programs: DL Plat, AA Plat Pro, Marriott Titanium, IHG Diamond Amb
Posts: 7,489
Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
DL could treat the LHR flights differently to avoid this issue.
Our posts may have crossed... Looks like they decided not to. Which brings up a perhaps more important question. Ex-LHR are they going to charge those who get “upgraded” to C+ the difference in APD?
dw is online now  
Old Oct 29, 2017, 9:48 pm
  #30  
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,417
Originally Posted by dw
Our posts may have crossed... Looks like they decided not to. Which brings up a perhaps more important question. Ex-LHR are they going to charge those who get “upgraded” to C+ the difference in APD?
AFAIK additional APD isn't owed for OPUPs (nor for nonrevs given premium cabin seats). If people use instruments to "upgrade" in advance to C+, I would expect DL to charge APD, just like they do for upgrades into D1, with payment required before the ticket can be reissued (and also for the French luxury tax on upgrades into D1 exCDG). However, for upgrades at the gate, I'm not sure that GAs have the time to charge credit cards.
MSPeconomist is offline  


Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.