BOS Runway Construction (Summer 2017)
Jun 20, 2017, 9:32 pm
#61
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The events of June 19th were not all to blame on the runway construction. NYC airspace was pretty much shut down for most of the day. Most if not all flights down to NYC were cancelled and the airport took in many diversions for flights bound to NYC or other points too. About 6pm saw many planes sitting out on the field that normally would not have been there.
DL had 9 diversions come in to BOS yesterday (4 transoceanic flights, 4 from the Caribbean, and 1 domestic) on top of the delays of regularly scheduled flights. One JFK-BOS last night was the only flight that DL operated in the afternoon between BOS and NYC. The airport was so congested with diversions that regular flights that were already late were diverted to other airports.
The majority of the issues yesterday were due to NYC ATC/Weather causing the diversions. Sure the runway closure made the situation worse but please don't go blaming the runway for everything that happened yesterday.
Jun 21, 2017, 5:56 am
#62
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I'll still blame the runway for the vast majority of delays in/out of BOS. Yes there was a band of WX activity later in the day that went through, but it was brief and did not account for them running delays right off the bat from the morning.
If the runway was open, then they would have the capacity to handle the traffic without significant delays. Even with all of the cancellations in the NYC area and corresponding reduced volume, BOS was still a mess, and has been for the past 5+ weeks.
If the runway was open, then they would have the capacity to handle the traffic without significant delays. Even with all of the cancellations in the NYC area and corresponding reduced volume, BOS was still a mess, and has been for the past 5+ weeks.
Jun 21, 2017, 7:57 am
#63
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WX or not there are issues in BOS. I am flying JFK-BOS-FCO tomorrow (probably the last time ever flying AZ) and the flight I was suppose to be on arrived 2 hrs after my connecting flight 6 out of the last 8 days. I called the DM line and they changed me to an earlier flight no problem, they would have put me on the JFK-FCO on DL but it is sold out in J.
Jun 21, 2017, 8:06 am
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Mrs. GlobeTrttr and I are booked on DL2643 ATL-BOS + DL154 BOS-DUB tomorrow night.
History for the past 3 days on our itinerary:
DL2643 ATL-BOS
Tue 6/20: delayed 2 hrs
Mon 6/19: delayed 6 hrs (diverted back to ATL – presumably due to NYC airspace congestion, etc)
Sun 6/18: delayed 2 hrs
DL154 BOS-DUB
Tue 6/20: left on time
Mon 6/19: delayed 3 hrs
Sun 6/18: delayed 1 hr
FWIW, both Aer Lingus BOS-DUB flights seem to be consistently getting out on time (does DL interline with Aer Lingus?).
Called DL this morning to see about getting changed to the ATL-DUB n/s. Agent said no changes possible just based on the delay history and known ATC delays, wind, etc. We have to wait until T-24 check-in window before DL issues notice of delay or trip interruption with options to re-book. Life as a Silver…
Are the BOS SkyClub hours are being affected? Normal closing time is 9pm. Are they keeping it open later to accommodate stranded/delayed members? We may pay for single-entry to at least have access to all the carrots, celery, and Miller Lite that we can handle.
History for the past 3 days on our itinerary:
DL2643 ATL-BOS
Tue 6/20: delayed 2 hrs
Mon 6/19: delayed 6 hrs (diverted back to ATL – presumably due to NYC airspace congestion, etc)
Sun 6/18: delayed 2 hrs
DL154 BOS-DUB
Tue 6/20: left on time
Mon 6/19: delayed 3 hrs
Sun 6/18: delayed 1 hr
FWIW, both Aer Lingus BOS-DUB flights seem to be consistently getting out on time (does DL interline with Aer Lingus?).
Called DL this morning to see about getting changed to the ATL-DUB n/s. Agent said no changes possible just based on the delay history and known ATC delays, wind, etc. We have to wait until T-24 check-in window before DL issues notice of delay or trip interruption with options to re-book. Life as a Silver…
Are the BOS SkyClub hours are being affected? Normal closing time is 9pm. Are they keeping it open later to accommodate stranded/delayed members? We may pay for single-entry to at least have access to all the carrots, celery, and Miller Lite that we can handle.
Last edited by GlobeTrttr83; Jun 21, 2017 at 8:12 am
Jun 21, 2017, 8:59 am
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Officially the SC still closes at the stated time, however from my experience in being there during delay events, they stay open later. It just might be limited amenities after closing time (little/no food, just bar).
Jun 21, 2017, 9:26 am
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Jun 21, 2017, 9:32 am
#67
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Mrs. GlobeTrttr and I are booked on DL2643 ATL-BOS + DL154 BOS-DUB tomorrow night.
History for the past 3 days on our itinerary:
DL2643 ATL-BOS
Tue 6/20: delayed 2 hrs
Mon 6/19: delayed 6 hrs (diverted back to ATL – presumably due to NYC airspace congestion, etc)
Sun 6/18: delayed 2 hrs
DL154 BOS-DUB
Tue 6/20: left on time
Mon 6/19: delayed 3 hrs
Sun 6/18: delayed 1 hr
FWIW, both Aer Lingus BOS-DUB flights seem to be consistently getting out on time (does DL interline with Aer Lingus?).
Called DL this morning to see about getting changed to the ATL-DUB n/s. Agent said no changes possible just based on the delay history and known ATC delays, wind, etc. We have to wait until T-24 check-in window before DL issues notice of delay or trip interruption with options to re-book. Life as a Silver…
Are the BOS SkyClub hours are being affected? Normal closing time is 9pm. Are they keeping it open later to accommodate stranded/delayed members? We may pay for single-entry to at least have access to all the carrots, celery, and Miller Lite that we can handle.
History for the past 3 days on our itinerary:
DL2643 ATL-BOS
Tue 6/20: delayed 2 hrs
Mon 6/19: delayed 6 hrs (diverted back to ATL – presumably due to NYC airspace congestion, etc)
Sun 6/18: delayed 2 hrs
DL154 BOS-DUB
Tue 6/20: left on time
Mon 6/19: delayed 3 hrs
Sun 6/18: delayed 1 hr
FWIW, both Aer Lingus BOS-DUB flights seem to be consistently getting out on time (does DL interline with Aer Lingus?).
Called DL this morning to see about getting changed to the ATL-DUB n/s. Agent said no changes possible just based on the delay history and known ATC delays, wind, etc. We have to wait until T-24 check-in window before DL issues notice of delay or trip interruption with options to re-book. Life as a Silver…
Are the BOS SkyClub hours are being affected? Normal closing time is 9pm. Are they keeping it open later to accommodate stranded/delayed members? We may pay for single-entry to at least have access to all the carrots, celery, and Miller Lite that we can handle.
Maybe ask in ATL if they can rebook you on the nonstop. Is it showing close to sold out? If it is, forget about it. If not, maybe ask a Red Coat nicely? Or see if they can do ATL-JFK-DUB?
Jun 21, 2017, 10:49 am
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You should get to the airport early and attempt to standby for one of the earlier flights to Boston. Better that than get stranded and lose a day overseas.
Maybe ask in ATL if they can rebook you on the nonstop. Is it showing close to sold out? If it is, forget about it. If not, maybe ask a Red Coat nicely? Or see if they can do ATL-JFK-DUB?
Maybe ask in ATL if they can rebook you on the nonstop. Is it showing close to sold out? If it is, forget about it. If not, maybe ask a Red Coat nicely? Or see if they can do ATL-JFK-DUB?
Already called DL's "silver" line and was told tomorrow’s flights were not currently eligible for waivers. The agent did try looking for a way to get us onto DL176 ATL-DUB but there just wasn’t a way without probably breaking some rules. There appear to be plenty of seats now, so we’ll see how things look tomorrow. I can’t imagine a huge load of other people are trying to fly ATL - DUB via BOS when there’s a non-stop, so I expect minimal change on current availability.
Jun 21, 2017, 11:21 am
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Well the good news is that weather is good in BOS today and tomorrow... and somehow DL2643 is on time today, and no ground delay program in place so far. Maybe since its Wed with near-perfect conditions?
Jun 21, 2017, 12:42 pm
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My guess is international departures get priority, my FCO flight has left on-time the last 7 days. The plane being on the ground 4+ hrs before departure has something to do with that as well.
Jun 21, 2017, 2:15 pm
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A positive data point for today:
I flew DL808 MSP-BOS this morning. The flight departed MSP a few minutes early and landed in BOS almost 30 minutes early. It's the first flight of the day, which probably helped.
The SC agent confirmed the problems in the last few days and asked if this was my original date to fly MSP-BOS. I think one of the flights yesterday was not just delayed, but canceled.
I flew DL808 MSP-BOS this morning. The flight departed MSP a few minutes early and landed in BOS almost 30 minutes early. It's the first flight of the day, which probably helped.
The SC agent confirmed the problems in the last few days and asked if this was my original date to fly MSP-BOS. I think one of the flights yesterday was not just delayed, but canceled.
Last edited by CarmenOM; Jun 21, 2017 at 6:37 pm
Jun 21, 2017, 3:30 pm
#72
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Near perfect weather hasn't mattered in the recent past. BOS has had a lot of strong southwest winds, and with one of the major runways oriented for that wind direction closed, it hasn't been pretty.
Jun 22, 2017, 10:37 am
#73
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Starting on June 24,2017 and continuing through August 7, 2017 runway 4R/22L will be available as follows:
1400L to 2200L daily runway 22L will be available for arrival and departures.
2200L to 1400L daily runway 22L will be available for arrivals only.
1400L to 2200L daily runway 4R will be available for departures and category I arrivals.
2200L to 1400L daily runway 4R will not be available for arrivals or departures.
Jun 22, 2017, 10:58 am
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Well yesterday must've been the one anomaly since this cluster* started 5 weeks ago ... today BOS is back to running ground delays again... I'm sure Friday will be horrible again with increased traffic as well.
Due to RWY-TAXI / CONSTRUCTION, there is a Traffic Management Program in effect for traffic arriving General Edward Lawrence Logan International Airport, Boston, MA (BOS). This is causing some arriving flights to be delayed an average of 48 minutes. To see if you may be affected, select your departure airport and check "Delays by Destination".
Due to RWY-TAXI / CONSTRUCTION, there is a Traffic Management Program in effect for traffic arriving General Edward Lawrence Logan International Airport, Boston, MA (BOS). This is causing some arriving flights to be delayed an average of 48 minutes. To see if you may be affected, select your departure airport and check "Delays by Destination".