Premium Select
#16
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#17



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Oh, sorry everyone. I really had no idea on fare class, MQMs, etc. I was going by where Delta was "attempting" to rank it by onboard experience. On the Onboard Experience section of the website, DL seems to "rank" it above First for a a few reasons -- and I agree.
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#18

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Oh, sorry everyone. I really had no idea on fare class, MQMs, etc. I was going by where Delta was "attempting" to rank it by onboard experience. On the Onboard Experience section of the website, DL seems to "rank" it above First for a a few reasons.
I believe AA frequent fliers can already seek out their new premium economy seat on domestic 787-9 routes.
I have flown Virgin Atlantic's premium economy product and every aspect of the hard and soft product were superior to domestic first in my opinion.
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You're confusing totally different products only offered in separate markets. D1 is offer on international flights and JFK-LAX/SFO only. There is no First class on these flights. Only Business which is what D1 is. First class is only offered on domestic and some short haul international flights.
PS is the new cabin on international flights. It's basically Comfort+ but at an upgraded level for international flights. Seat and meal wise it will be close to domestic First service.
PS is the new cabin on international flights. It's basically Comfort+ but at an upgraded level for international flights. Seat and meal wise it will be close to domestic First service.
#20
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You're confusing totally different products only offered in separate markets. D1 is offer on international flights and JFK-LAX/SFO only. There is no First class on these flights. Only Business which is what D1 is. First class is only offered on domestic and some short haul international flights.
PS is the new cabin on international flights. It's basically Comfort+ but at an upgraded level for international flights. Seat and meal wise it will be close to domestic First service.
PS is the new cabin on international flights. It's basically Comfort+ but at an upgraded level for international flights. Seat and meal wise it will be close to domestic First service.
#21
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#22



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Byrules on DL website say Premium (Select) will net 150% MQM.
Let's see how much award ticket will go for. It could be an interesting alternative to J, hopefully.
Let's see how much award ticket will go for. It could be an interesting alternative to J, hopefully.
#23
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I don't know why gate agents would try to deny downgrade compensation. Not only is it a standard procedure, but it (1) doesn't do any harm to the agent or station and (2) makes the customer happier and easer to deal with. Feels like some agents just live for the confrontation lol.
I had a recent experience where I was "viper"ed off of a flight. It was a LONG international flight and I showed up at the gate (unknown that I had been taken off) with no reservation. They gave me middle seats/non-reclining in the back row (that's all that was left). There was no anger...just a chuckle....I asked if I could wait for boarding to complete before getting on in case any aisles opened up. Respectfully...cheerfully. I get it...things happen. I was rewarded with a seat in Delta One (they would have had to op up two passengers anyway). I am 100% positive it was my attitude that yielded that seat. Based on the route, I guarantee there were other DM/MM on a higher fare than me.
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So I have 2 comments on this:
1) DL is pushing this as some great thing, but they are well over 10 years behind the others in the industry on this
2) I have flown Premium Economy on Eva, Virgin Atlantic, etc etc etc and the seats are pretty comfortable (similar to domestic FC) is it just me or when you look at the ad pictures that these seat cushions look EXTREMELY THIN? Like 737-900 Main Cabin thin padding?
1) DL is pushing this as some great thing, but they are well over 10 years behind the others in the industry on this
2) I have flown Premium Economy on Eva, Virgin Atlantic, etc etc etc and the seats are pretty comfortable (similar to domestic FC) is it just me or when you look at the ad pictures that these seat cushions look EXTREMELY THIN? Like 737-900 Main Cabin thin padding?
#25


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After a bit of searching, I realized Delta changed "Delta Premium," as their Premium Economy product was called when announced three weeks ago, to "Delta Premium Select."
http://news.delta.com/delta-premium-select-debut-2017
http://news.delta.com/delta-premium-select-debut-2017
#26
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So I have 2 comments on this:
1) DL is pushing this as some great thing, but they are well over 10 years behind the others in the industry on this
2) I have flown Premium Economy on Eva, Virgin Atlantic, etc etc etc and the seats are pretty comfortable (similar to domestic FC) is it just me or when you look at the ad pictures that these seat cushions look EXTREMELY THIN? Like 737-900 Main Cabin thin padding?
1) DL is pushing this as some great thing, but they are well over 10 years behind the others in the industry on this
2) I have flown Premium Economy on Eva, Virgin Atlantic, etc etc etc and the seats are pretty comfortable (similar to domestic FC) is it just me or when you look at the ad pictures that these seat cushions look EXTREMELY THIN? Like 737-900 Main Cabin thin padding?
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Must've been the JV or intern marketing team that modified the name. Premium Select sounds like something advertised for a food product like that chicken above.
#28
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IMO that would be a catering improvement over some of the domestic F meals I have had on DL!
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Perhaps they need to go back and rethink the entire name. I didn't necessarily think that "Delta Premium" was great, but I got it. To me, "Premium Select" seems to imply that they are trying to differentiate the product from "Premium", only it doesn't exist.
#30




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I would expect to rank premium economy above domestic first class as well. Let's say in 2-4 years when this rolls out, you can choose fly ATL-LAX on a 757 in domestic first class, or on an internationally configured 777 in premium economy. It will probably be sold as "Comfort+" on domestic routes. I would pick premium economy if it meant getting the seat shown, even without the international amenities.
I believe AA frequent fliers can already seek out their new premium economy seat on domestic 787-9 routes.
I have flown Virgin Atlantic's premium economy product and every aspect of the hard and soft product were superior to domestic first in my opinion.
I believe AA frequent fliers can already seek out their new premium economy seat on domestic 787-9 routes.
I have flown Virgin Atlantic's premium economy product and every aspect of the hard and soft product were superior to domestic first in my opinion.

