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Delta's Operational move from T5 to T2/3 at LAX:


Delta has moved to: T2 and T3 with eventual connector to TBIT (note: there is currently only airside bus service to stay securely between T2 & T3, the walking connector has not been built yet.)

Where to check bags: As of January 13, 2020, non-Sky Priority customers must check their bag(s) at the terminal their flight departs from, unless their flight departs from TBIT, in which case, they must check their bag at Terminal 2. Sky priority customers can check their bag at either terminal. See this link for more information.

Date(s) of move: May 12, 2017 - May 17, 2017

Here is a helpful chart from Delta which covers all Domestic / Int'l. transfer combos (AND TOTAL TRANSFER TIMES) between T2, T3 & TBIT.

New Bus Routes will help with connections:
- Circular Airfield Bus between TBIT, T2 and T3
- Airfield Bus between T2 and T3

Bus Map

Will there be a SkyClub: Yes, there is one in each terminal. Virgin Atlantic Clubhouse will remain.
- The SkyClub in T2 opened on May 20th (Former AC Maple Leaf Lounge)
pix in post 1058
- The SkyClub in T3 opened on May 24th (Former VX Loft)

https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...d-updates.html

Where Will The Delta One Check In Lounge Be Located:

Delta will temporarily offer dedicated check-in space in Terminal 2 (first door closest to T1) while a long-term Delta One experience is finalized.
In T2, there is a small Delta One seating area with refreshments. An agent will escort you from the check in/lounge area through a back pathway up stairs to TSA precheck. Its a shorter walk to check-in at SkyPriority and easier if you have a carry on and don't want to drag it up a flight of stairs. 11/3/17)

Airlines joining DL in T2/3 for landside and departures:
- AeroMexico (T2)
- Virgin Atlantic (T2)
- WestJet (T3)

Landside T2 only, departures from TBIT:
- Virgin Australia
- Volaris

Landside T3 only, departures from TBIT:
- Avianca/Taca
- Copa (effective April 7)
- InterJet

Will there be secure links between T2-T3 and TBIT: Yes, the final plan is to let pax walk between all airside.

External Links:
Press Release: http://news.delta.com/delta-relocate...rough-19b-plan

Rough link showing T2/3 connector:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnWmrq1UEAEUiF3.jpg

Proposed schedule from LAWA presentation:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnWmMDLVUAA1vNM.jpg

Delta fact sheet:
http://www.lawa.org/uploadedFiles/LA...ease-Delta.pdf

Delta's LAX destination page featuring 'Delta Sky Way at LAX':
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...-terminal.html
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Old May 12, 2017, 5:20 pm
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Originally Posted by Colin
There is a not a logical reason DL would run a shuttle from airside Bradley to airside T2/T3 because all SkyTeam and partner arrivals into Bradley would require immigrations & customs before landside exit.
what

they've already said they're doing this. Are you suggesting they might drop people off at TBIT but not pick up there?? I mean I guess this is theoretically possible but makes very little sense.
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Old May 12, 2017, 5:23 pm
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Originally Posted by Colin
No, DL will not have domestic arrivals at Bradley (and a domestic arrival is the only logical usage scenario for a DL passenger at airside Bradley needing to go to airside T2/T3).

The DL shuttles dropping-off at Bradley may go on break, may serve another route.
presumably the shuttle will go T2-T3-TBIT. WHat if you get on at T3 and need to get to T2? you're just stuck in limbo forever?

There may not be an airside agent at Bradley airside to facilitate boarding onto a DL shuttle for which there is no logical usage scenario. The bus agent may be outside, directing passenger off the bus.
Lots of hypotheticals here. Sure, anything is possible but with the information we have now, the simplest conclusion is that passengers will be able to get on at TBIT.
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Old May 12, 2017, 5:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Colin
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your DCA flight arrives early at 813pm T5 Gate 58

expertflyer is showing DL4926 today departing T3 Gate 30 today 9pm

however, expertflyer is showing DL4925 the inbound SFO-LAX arriving into T6 Gate 60 825pm
very odd - my instinct is T6 Gate 60 is the DL4926 departure gate tonight

if so, easy connect airside T5 to T6.

if DL4926 is really from T3 (highly doubtful), then, with TSA Pre, I'd make it from T5 Gate 58, outside upper level, turn left, walk past T4, past Bradley, to T3 upper TSA Pre, to the first gate on the left by 845pm

Good luck dude
as predicted, false alarm. DL4926 now shows on-time departure 9pm from T6 Gate 60.
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Old May 12, 2017, 5:27 pm
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as predicted, false alarm. DL4926 now shows on-time departure 9pm from T6 Gate 60.
whew. Just saw that. I can go back to enjoying D1. Thanks for the help everyone!
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Old May 12, 2017, 5:28 pm
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Originally Posted by pvn
presumably the shuttle will go T2-T3-TBIT. WHat if you get on at T3 and need to get to T2? you're just stuck in limbo forever?



Lots of hypotheticals here. Sure, anything is possible but with the information we have now, the simplest conclusion is that passengers will be able to get on at TBIT.
T2<->T3 is a dedicated shuttle.

A separate shuttle includes a Bradley stop.
I suspect this shuttle will be substantially less frequent and limited in hours to when SkyTeam and JV international flights are departing from Bradley.

walk me through the usage case.
DL passenger arrives into Bradley on Air France from PPT.
passenger clears immigrations at Bradley, clears customs at Bradley, exits landside at Bradley south lower.
passenger holds onward LAX-SFO segment on DL departing from T3.

DL is not going to direct that passenger to clear security at Bradley south lower.

as a matter of prudence, I sure wouldn't enter airside at Bradley with a departure from T2/T3.

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Old May 12, 2017, 11:34 pm
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It took my Lyft 25+ minutes to get around to T5/6 rideshare pickup area when I called one after landing tonight -- about twice the usual. Said it had been bad all day. I was prepared for chaos in the terminals, but not on the roads.
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Old May 13, 2017, 6:08 am
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I feel bad for those on both legs of DL2116. Lands this morning in LAX at Gate 54B, but connection to MSP is out of Gate 37A
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Old May 13, 2017, 10:58 am
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Originally Posted by nystateofmind
I feel bad for those on both legs of DL2116. Lands this morning in LAX at Gate 54B, but connection to MSP is out of Gate 37A
Probably explains why it was delayed almost 30mins.
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Old May 13, 2017, 2:10 pm
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sky club changes....

Does anyone know what positives and negatives of the Skyclub changes? I don't think Air Canada lounge had bartender but a self serve pour station.... How many gain or loss on shower?? Food stations seem about the same... Will miss T5 Skyclub......

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Old May 13, 2017, 2:17 pm
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The page below says that 2 SkyClubs will be open right away (as we know). It then says that a "New State of the Art SkyClub" will open sometime later. That could be a renovation of the above. But my guess is that it'll be a whole new flagship club (with a sky deck)

http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...-terminal.html
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Old May 13, 2017, 2:44 pm
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Originally Posted by kjnangre
The page below says that 2 SkyClubs will be open right away (as we know). It then says that a "New State of the Art SkyClub" will open sometime later. That could be a renovation of the above. But my guess is that it'll be a whole new flagship club (with a sky deck)

http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...-terminal.html
It says the Terminal 2 SkyClub opened today and DL currently operates no flights out of T2 yet. Also AC is still in T2 and using the MLL (future SkyClub)
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Old May 13, 2017, 3:34 pm
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Was in T-3 today. No SkyClub until the 18th. They have the stairs to the old Virgin club blocked off with a table of water and biscoffs and some SC reps from T-5 manning it.

I was told there were no DAL ops at T-2 today; didn't see any when I was there. T-3 today was primarily if not all 717's and E-75's and a few RJ7/9's.

And prepare yourself - T-3 is a dump.
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Old May 13, 2017, 3:57 pm
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The Air Canada Maple Leaf Lounge that was in T2 was originally Air New Zealand's until they moved to TBIT almost 2 years ago (give or take).

I spent a lot of time in there as the tiny original AC lounge could barely manage. As NZ, it had excellent showers and amenities and a fantastic liquor selection and hot meals. These were important features given the NZ flights and distances. Once AC moved in, the structure remained but the quality evaporated (which we all expected).

It is a long, narrow space so unless DL has a good interior design team, I'm not sure where they would put the bar, but based on the ones I've seen at one Sky Club at ATL, it can be done.

I am quite sure DL will make some nice improvements.

One of the great things about that lounge (based on my 3 years of spending time in there) are the views out to the northern parallel runways and taxiways. If any of you are minor avgeeks, I can tell you I have a great collection of photos from there. I am not sure there is physical space to build an outside deck, but it would be at the back and over gate areas.

The other nice thing is that T2 was recently renovated and it is a massive improvement over what was. The only downside to that terminal (built in 1961 IIRC) is the security area upstairs from check-in. It is currently a disaster and can barely handle the pax traffic. I expect DL will make sure that nonsense is cleared up quickly.
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Old May 13, 2017, 8:38 pm
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Originally Posted by 24left
The Air Canada Maple Leaf Lounge that was in T2 was originally Air New Zealand's until they moved to TBIT almost 2 years ago (give or take).

I spent a lot of time in there as the tiny original AC lounge could barely manage. As NZ, it had excellent showers and amenities and a fantastic liquor selection and hot meals. These were important features given the NZ flights and distances. Once AC moved in, the structure remained but the quality evaporated (which we all expected).

It is a long, narrow space so unless DL has a good interior design team, I'm not sure where they would put the bar, but based on the ones I've seen at one Sky Club at ATL, it can be done.

I am quite sure DL will make some nice improvements.

One of the great things about that lounge (based on my 3 years of spending time in there) are the views out to the northern parallel runways and taxiways. If any of you are minor avgeeks, I can tell you I have a great collection of photos from there. I am not sure there is physical space to build an outside deck, but it would be at the back and over gate areas.

The other nice thing is that T2 was recently renovated and it is a massive improvement over what was. The only downside to that terminal (built in 1961 IIRC) is the security area upstairs from check-in. It is currently a disaster and can barely handle the pax traffic. I expect DL will make sure that nonsense is cleared up quickly.
The security at T2 has been the same since NW owned the terminal. Not sure what they can do without a major renovation to front of T2.
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Old May 13, 2017, 8:40 pm
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Originally Posted by flyerCO
The security at T2 has been the same since NW owned the terminal. Not sure what they can do without a major renovation to front of T2.
They are planning to do a major renovation. $1.9B worth.

Edited to add the decimal point

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