Jan 7, 2016, 1:57 pm
Last edit by: PHXflier
For travel on or after October 1, 2016, the new low level awards apply:
NA-SW Pacific (incl. Australia) 45k economy 95k business each way
NA-Japan 35k economy 80k business each way
NA-Europe 30k economy 62.5k business each way (J has increased to 70K each way in late summer 2016)
NA-Middle East 35k economy 70k business each way
NA-South Africa 40k economy 95k business each way
NA-Southern South America 30k economy 75k business each way
NA-Africa 40k economy 80k business each way
HNL-N.Asia 30K X, 60K O (was 50K, was 35K) ow
HNL-S.Asia 35K X, 60K O (was 50K, was 35K) ow
HNL-SW Pacific (incl. Australia) 45K X, 95K O (was 80K) ow
N.Asia-S.Asia 22.5K X, 50K O (was 40K) ow (yes 50K for a short 2~3h "domestic first" type of flight!)
For travel on or after June 1, 2016, additional fare classes are eligible for SkyMiles upgrades:
Within North American and northern South America, L/U/T fares are now eligible. (Previously only Y/B/M/S/H/Q/K)
For all other markets, S/H/Q/K fares are now eligible. (Previously only Y/B/M)
SkyMiles Upgrade Awards will also require more miles. Prices for the following markets as quoted by multiple reservations agents: (Pricing is one-way)
Domestic (except JFK-LAX/SFO, Hawaii, etc.):
Y/B/M: 15,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 20,000 miles
L/U/T: 30,000 miles
Domestic Premium Routes (JFK-LAX/SFO)
Y/B/M: 25,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 35,000 miles
L/U/T: 45,000 miles
US-Hawaii
Y/B/M: 30,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 45,000 miles
L/U/T: 55,000 miles
US-Canada
Y/B/M: 15,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 20,000 miles
L/U/T: 30,000 miles
US-Puerto Rico, Mexico, Bermuda, Caribbean
Y/B/M: 15,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 20,000 miles
L/U/T: 30,000 miles
US-Northern South America
Y/B/M: 30,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 45,000 miles
L/U/T: 55,000 miles
US-Southern South America
Y/B/M: 60,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 80,000 miles
US-Europe:
Y/B/M: 60,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 80,000 miles
US-Northern Asia (Japan/Korea/China):
Y/B/M: 60,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 80,000 miles
US-Southeast/Southwest Asia, Micronesia, Southwest Pacific:
Y/B/M: 80,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 115,000 miles
US-Africa (incl. South Africa)
Y/B/M: 80,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 115,000 miles
US-Middle East
Y/B/M: 80,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 115,000 miles
NA-SW Pacific (incl. Australia) 45k economy 95k business each way
NA-Japan 35k economy 80k business each way
NA-Europe 30k economy 62.5k business each way (J has increased to 70K each way in late summer 2016)
NA-Middle East 35k economy 70k business each way
NA-South Africa 40k economy 95k business each way
NA-Southern South America 30k economy 75k business each way
NA-Africa 40k economy 80k business each way
HNL-N.Asia 30K X, 60K O (was 50K, was 35K) ow
HNL-S.Asia 35K X, 60K O (was 50K, was 35K) ow
HNL-SW Pacific (incl. Australia) 45K X, 95K O (was 80K) ow
N.Asia-S.Asia 22.5K X, 50K O (was 40K) ow (yes 50K for a short 2~3h "domestic first" type of flight!)
For travel on or after June 1, 2016, additional fare classes are eligible for SkyMiles upgrades:
Within North American and northern South America, L/U/T fares are now eligible. (Previously only Y/B/M/S/H/Q/K)
For all other markets, S/H/Q/K fares are now eligible. (Previously only Y/B/M)
SkyMiles Upgrade Awards will also require more miles. Prices for the following markets as quoted by multiple reservations agents: (Pricing is one-way)
Domestic (except JFK-LAX/SFO, Hawaii, etc.):
Y/B/M: 15,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 20,000 miles
L/U/T: 30,000 miles
Domestic Premium Routes (JFK-LAX/SFO)
Y/B/M: 25,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 35,000 miles
L/U/T: 45,000 miles
US-Hawaii
Y/B/M: 30,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 45,000 miles
L/U/T: 55,000 miles
US-Canada
Y/B/M: 15,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 20,000 miles
L/U/T: 30,000 miles
US-Puerto Rico, Mexico, Bermuda, Caribbean
Y/B/M: 15,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 20,000 miles
L/U/T: 30,000 miles
US-Northern South America
Y/B/M: 30,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 45,000 miles
L/U/T: 55,000 miles
US-Southern South America
Y/B/M: 60,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 80,000 miles
US-Europe:
Y/B/M: 60,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 80,000 miles
US-Northern Asia (Japan/Korea/China):
Y/B/M: 60,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 80,000 miles
US-Southeast/Southwest Asia, Micronesia, Southwest Pacific:
Y/B/M: 80,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 115,000 miles
US-Africa (incl. South Africa)
Y/B/M: 80,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 115,000 miles
US-Middle East
Y/B/M: 80,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 115,000 miles
New SkyMiles Award Pricing For Travel On or After October 1, 2016
Jan 7, 2016, 12:44 pm
#46
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Definitely not chasing DM status anymore. Accidentally got it this year, projecting Gold next year, and not because of less total travel.
It used to be easy to find VA J @ 80k up until about a year ago.
Jan 7, 2016, 1:00 pm
#47
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Jan 7, 2016, 1:08 pm
#48
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: STL
Programs: DL DM, UA PS, MR Plt, A-Club Plt, HH G, Avis First
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The Mrs. and I are looking to do a marathon in Iceland this August. Looking at the MSP-KEF flights, I was unsure if they required a RUC or a GUC as they're a 6hr flight on a domestically configured 752.
While I was happy to hear that upgrade space was readily available, I was disappointed to find out I needed a GUC. 'First' seats are available in Z but there is no way in hell I'm paying US$ 3,853 / seat for a domestically configured 6hr overnight flight.
I inquired about an M fare and was quoted $2k per ticket which would require 60,000 SM per person each way to upgrade!!! Currently, it's only 25k each way per person. The DM agent said that things will change on July 1st but couldn't provide the information, just a quote on the amount of miles required.
60k for an upgrade is complete BS from an M fare.
While I was happy to hear that upgrade space was readily available, I was disappointed to find out I needed a GUC. 'First' seats are available in Z but there is no way in hell I'm paying US$ 3,853 / seat for a domestically configured 6hr overnight flight.
I inquired about an M fare and was quoted $2k per ticket which would require 60,000 SM per person each way to upgrade!!! Currently, it's only 25k each way per person. The DM agent said that things will change on July 1st but couldn't provide the information, just a quote on the amount of miles required.
60k for an upgrade is complete BS from an M fare.
Jan 7, 2016, 1:21 pm
#49
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Location: NYC
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Posts: 668
Back in June, I was able to snag JFK-LHR-AMS-SVO-MLE/MDC-DPS-NRT-DTW-LGA for 280,000 in J for two people, travel beginning in March (bough separate Y tickets for MLE-SIN, SIN-CGK and CGK-MDC).
Retail value of the award flights for two people is ~$32K.
So glad I burned the miles when I did!
Retail value of the award flights for two people is ~$32K.
So glad I burned the miles when I did!
Jan 7, 2016, 1:45 pm
#50
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I inquired about an M fare and was quoted $2k per ticket which would require 60,000 SM per person each way to upgrade!!! Currently, it's only 25k each way per person. The DM agent said that things will change on July 1st but couldn't provide the information, just a quote on the amount of miles required.
60k for an upgrade is complete BS from an M fare.
60k for an upgrade is complete BS from an M fare.
Jan 7, 2016, 2:02 pm
#51
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The Mrs. and I are looking to do a marathon in Iceland this August. Looking at the MSP-KEF flights, I was unsure if they required a RUC or a GUC as they're a 6hr flight on a domestically configured 752.
While I was happy to hear that upgrade space was readily available, I was disappointed to find out I needed a GUC. 'First' seats are available in Z but there is no way in hell I'm paying US$ 3,853 / seat for a domestically configured 6hr overnight flight.
I inquired about an M fare and was quoted $2k per ticket which would require 60,000 SM per person each way to upgrade!!! Currently, it's only 25k each way per person. The DM agent said that things will change on July 1st but couldn't provide the information, just a quote on the amount of miles required.
60k for an upgrade is complete BS from an M fare.
While I was happy to hear that upgrade space was readily available, I was disappointed to find out I needed a GUC. 'First' seats are available in Z but there is no way in hell I'm paying US$ 3,853 / seat for a domestically configured 6hr overnight flight.
I inquired about an M fare and was quoted $2k per ticket which would require 60,000 SM per person each way to upgrade!!! Currently, it's only 25k each way per person. The DM agent said that things will change on July 1st but couldn't provide the information, just a quote on the amount of miles required.
60k for an upgrade is complete BS from an M fare.
Jan 7, 2016, 2:43 pm
#52
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: STL
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Posts: 272
It's not $2k but $3,853 per person. Even for a 6hr segment, a $2k ticket seems a bit high for a domestically configured 752 but oh well, I guess that's revenue management.
Jan 7, 2016, 2:45 pm
#53
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Location: Columbia, SC
Programs: AA Plat, SPG/Marriot Gold, HHonors Diamond, Hyatt Expl
Posts: 2,363
The Mrs. and I are looking to do a marathon in Iceland this August. Looking at the MSP-KEF flights, I was unsure if they required a RUC or a GUC as they're a 6hr flight on a domestically configured 752.
While I was happy to hear that upgrade space was readily available, I was disappointed to find out I needed a GUC. 'First' seats are available in Z but there is no way in hell I'm paying US$ 3,853 / seat for a domestically configured 6hr overnight flight.
I inquired about an M fare and was quoted $2k per ticket which would require 60,000 SM per person each way to upgrade!!! Currently, it's only 25k each way per person. The DM agent said that things will change on July 1st but couldn't provide the information, just a quote on the amount of miles required.
60k for an upgrade is complete BS from an M fare.
While I was happy to hear that upgrade space was readily available, I was disappointed to find out I needed a GUC. 'First' seats are available in Z but there is no way in hell I'm paying US$ 3,853 / seat for a domestically configured 6hr overnight flight.
I inquired about an M fare and was quoted $2k per ticket which would require 60,000 SM per person each way to upgrade!!! Currently, it's only 25k each way per person. The DM agent said that things will change on July 1st but couldn't provide the information, just a quote on the amount of miles required.
60k for an upgrade is complete BS from an M fare.
Back in June, I was able to snag JFK-LHR-AMS-SVO-MLE/MDC-DPS-NRT-DTW-LGA for 280,000 in J for two people, travel beginning in March (bough separate Y tickets for MLE-SIN, SIN-CGK and CGK-MDC).
Retail value of the award flights for two people is ~$32K.
So glad I burned the miles when I did!
Retail value of the award flights for two people is ~$32K.
So glad I burned the miles when I did!
Jan 7, 2016, 3:13 pm
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Jan 7, 2016, 7:06 pm
#56
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Jan 8, 2016, 8:05 am
#57
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The Mrs. and I are looking to do a marathon in Iceland this August. Looking at the MSP-KEF flights, I was unsure if they required a RUC or a GUC as they're a 6hr flight on a domestically configured 752.
While I was happy to hear that upgrade space was readily available, I was disappointed to find out I needed a GUC. 'First' seats are available in Z but there is no way in hell I'm paying US$ 3,853 / seat for a domestically configured 6hr overnight flight.
While I was happy to hear that upgrade space was readily available, I was disappointed to find out I needed a GUC. 'First' seats are available in Z but there is no way in hell I'm paying US$ 3,853 / seat for a domestically configured 6hr overnight flight.
Jan 8, 2016, 8:07 am
#58
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I searched on ITA Matrix calendar search for August MSP-KEF nonstop on DL. I also varied the number of nights from 1-7, and found tickets for $1953/person available on every day but one for any of those durations. If you don't want to pay that for a domestic 757 (I wouldn't either), you can buy coach for $655. Unfortunately you'd have to pay for your wife to get into C+ if she isn't PM+ thanks to the new rules, but at least it's still free at booking on international for you.
Jan 8, 2016, 8:19 am
#59
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I thought Delta was using internationally-configured 757s for its seasonal flights to Oslo, Stockholm and Iceland? I know in 2013 or 2014, when Delta was still overhauling all of its long-haul fleet, that not all aircraft were equipped with flat seats but I thought that had changed.
I agree, and I'd book the coach ticket myself. However, prices to other destinations don't really matter other than for comparison purposes when you need to be at a certain place at a certain time.
Jan 8, 2016, 11:14 am
#60
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I should have been a bit more clear. The routing will be XXX-MSP-KEF and not just the MSP-KEF portion. If I do decide to blow the money on business, I will probably just do a nested as XXX-MSP is cheap. I just can't believe that one segment increases the price so much. Gotta love dynamic pricing.