Jan 7, 2016, 1:57 pm
Last edit by: PHXflier
For travel on or after October 1, 2016, the new low level awards apply:
NA-SW Pacific (incl. Australia) 45k economy 95k business each way
NA-Japan 35k economy 80k business each way
NA-Europe 30k economy 62.5k business each way (J has increased to 70K each way in late summer 2016)
NA-Middle East 35k economy 70k business each way
NA-South Africa 40k economy 95k business each way
NA-Southern South America 30k economy 75k business each way
NA-Africa 40k economy 80k business each way
HNL-N.Asia 30K X, 60K O (was 50K, was 35K) ow
HNL-S.Asia 35K X, 60K O (was 50K, was 35K) ow
HNL-SW Pacific (incl. Australia) 45K X, 95K O (was 80K) ow
N.Asia-S.Asia 22.5K X, 50K O (was 40K) ow (yes 50K for a short 2~3h "domestic first" type of flight!)
For travel on or after June 1, 2016, additional fare classes are eligible for SkyMiles upgrades:
Within North American and northern South America, L/U/T fares are now eligible. (Previously only Y/B/M/S/H/Q/K)
For all other markets, S/H/Q/K fares are now eligible. (Previously only Y/B/M)
SkyMiles Upgrade Awards will also require more miles. Prices for the following markets as quoted by multiple reservations agents: (Pricing is one-way)
Domestic (except JFK-LAX/SFO, Hawaii, etc.):
Y/B/M: 15,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 20,000 miles
L/U/T: 30,000 miles
Domestic Premium Routes (JFK-LAX/SFO)
Y/B/M: 25,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 35,000 miles
L/U/T: 45,000 miles
US-Hawaii
Y/B/M: 30,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 45,000 miles
L/U/T: 55,000 miles
US-Canada
Y/B/M: 15,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 20,000 miles
L/U/T: 30,000 miles
US-Puerto Rico, Mexico, Bermuda, Caribbean
Y/B/M: 15,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 20,000 miles
L/U/T: 30,000 miles
US-Northern South America
Y/B/M: 30,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 45,000 miles
L/U/T: 55,000 miles
US-Southern South America
Y/B/M: 60,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 80,000 miles
US-Europe:
Y/B/M: 60,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 80,000 miles
US-Northern Asia (Japan/Korea/China):
Y/B/M: 60,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 80,000 miles
US-Southeast/Southwest Asia, Micronesia, Southwest Pacific:
Y/B/M: 80,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 115,000 miles
US-Africa (incl. South Africa)
Y/B/M: 80,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 115,000 miles
US-Middle East
Y/B/M: 80,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 115,000 miles
NA-SW Pacific (incl. Australia) 45k economy 95k business each way
NA-Japan 35k economy 80k business each way
NA-Europe 30k economy 62.5k business each way (J has increased to 70K each way in late summer 2016)
NA-Middle East 35k economy 70k business each way
NA-South Africa 40k economy 95k business each way
NA-Southern South America 30k economy 75k business each way
NA-Africa 40k economy 80k business each way
HNL-N.Asia 30K X, 60K O (was 50K, was 35K) ow
HNL-S.Asia 35K X, 60K O (was 50K, was 35K) ow
HNL-SW Pacific (incl. Australia) 45K X, 95K O (was 80K) ow
N.Asia-S.Asia 22.5K X, 50K O (was 40K) ow (yes 50K for a short 2~3h "domestic first" type of flight!)
For travel on or after June 1, 2016, additional fare classes are eligible for SkyMiles upgrades:
Within North American and northern South America, L/U/T fares are now eligible. (Previously only Y/B/M/S/H/Q/K)
For all other markets, S/H/Q/K fares are now eligible. (Previously only Y/B/M)
SkyMiles Upgrade Awards will also require more miles. Prices for the following markets as quoted by multiple reservations agents: (Pricing is one-way)
Domestic (except JFK-LAX/SFO, Hawaii, etc.):
Y/B/M: 15,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 20,000 miles
L/U/T: 30,000 miles
Domestic Premium Routes (JFK-LAX/SFO)
Y/B/M: 25,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 35,000 miles
L/U/T: 45,000 miles
US-Hawaii
Y/B/M: 30,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 45,000 miles
L/U/T: 55,000 miles
US-Canada
Y/B/M: 15,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 20,000 miles
L/U/T: 30,000 miles
US-Puerto Rico, Mexico, Bermuda, Caribbean
Y/B/M: 15,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 20,000 miles
L/U/T: 30,000 miles
US-Northern South America
Y/B/M: 30,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 45,000 miles
L/U/T: 55,000 miles
US-Southern South America
Y/B/M: 60,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 80,000 miles
US-Europe:
Y/B/M: 60,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 80,000 miles
US-Northern Asia (Japan/Korea/China):
Y/B/M: 60,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 80,000 miles
US-Southeast/Southwest Asia, Micronesia, Southwest Pacific:
Y/B/M: 80,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 115,000 miles
US-Africa (incl. South Africa)
Y/B/M: 80,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 115,000 miles
US-Middle East
Y/B/M: 80,000 miles
S/H/Q/K: 115,000 miles
New SkyMiles Award Pricing For Travel On or After October 1, 2016
Jan 6, 2016, 1:36 pm
#16
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: ORD / MDW / FLL
Programs: DL DM/1MM, AA EXP, SPG Platinum, Hyatt Platinum, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 2,295
Just started looking at award tix to SYD from US late in 2016. Pricing out at HUNDREDS of thousands of miles on DL and nearly 200K miles on partner carriers in the front of the bus. Interestingly, seat maps show no seats occupied on the DL flights.
Seriously DL, if this is how you're gonna reward loyalty I and my $50K annual spend are outta here. I think I hear AA calling my name.
Seriously DL, if this is how you're gonna reward loyalty I and my $50K annual spend are outta here. I think I hear AA calling my name.
Jan 6, 2016, 2:14 pm
#17
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: CT
Programs: DL DM 2MM, MR LTT, Hilton D, Hertz PC. National Emerald Exec, UA Silver(thanks to Marriott)
Posts: 2,026
I am so glad I pulled the trigger last year JFK-SYD for 2 in J at low that I am taking in 3 weeks. I had a feeling it was getting to the point I would never see that again.
Flying Quantas when there.
Flying Quantas when there.
Jan 6, 2016, 2:24 pm
#18
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: ORD / MDW / FLL
Programs: DL DM/1MM, AA EXP, SPG Platinum, Hyatt Platinum, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 2,295
Would love to have done that but celebrating the Mr.'s milestone birthday this coming year.
Jan 6, 2016, 3:22 pm
#19
In memoriam, FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2005
Location: PIT
Programs: DM life is over 2MM PM now & NW MillionAir Wyndham Rewards Plat -Hotels.com Silver -Accor Silver
Posts: 15,408
Just got this eMail from UA:
Book your next trip to Australia with our Saver Awards sale
Ongoing Offer
Posted Mon., Jan. 4, 2016
Because you are a valued MileagePlus Premier® member or United MileagePlus Credit Card from Chase cardmember, we are offering you exclusive early access to our Saver Awards sale.
For a limited time, enjoy a 20 - 25 percent discount on roundtrip MileagePlus Saver Awards in United Economy® when you travel from the U.S. or Canada to Sydney, Australia. Book by January 28, 2016, and travel between February 2, 2016, and June 22, 2016, to take advantage of the discounted rates.
Discount Days of travel - Regular price - Reduced price*
25% off Sun, Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu 80,000 miles - 60,000 miles
20% off Fri, Sat 80,000 miles - 64,000 miles
*Some exclusions apply. See terms and conditions for details.
Note: This table shows mileage rates for roundtrip flights. For one-way itineraries, the regular price still applies.
Book: January 4 - January 28, 2016
Travel: February 2, 2016 - June 22, 2016
Book your next trip to Australia with our Saver Awards sale
Ongoing Offer
Posted Mon., Jan. 4, 2016
Because you are a valued MileagePlus Premier® member or United MileagePlus Credit Card from Chase cardmember, we are offering you exclusive early access to our Saver Awards sale.
For a limited time, enjoy a 20 - 25 percent discount on roundtrip MileagePlus Saver Awards in United Economy® when you travel from the U.S. or Canada to Sydney, Australia. Book by January 28, 2016, and travel between February 2, 2016, and June 22, 2016, to take advantage of the discounted rates.
Discount Days of travel - Regular price - Reduced price*
25% off Sun, Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu 80,000 miles - 60,000 miles
20% off Fri, Sat 80,000 miles - 64,000 miles
*Some exclusions apply. See terms and conditions for details.
Note: This table shows mileage rates for roundtrip flights. For one-way itineraries, the regular price still applies.
Book: January 4 - January 28, 2016
Travel: February 2, 2016 - June 22, 2016
Jan 6, 2016, 3:26 pm
#20
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AA EXP, IHG Diamond, IC Amb
Posts: 5,517
Just got this eMail from UA:
Book your next trip to Australia with our Saver Awards sale
Ongoing Offer
Posted Mon., Jan. 4, 2016
Because you are a valued MileagePlus Premier® member or United MileagePlus Credit Card from Chase cardmember, we are offering you exclusive early access to our Saver Awards sale.
For a limited time, enjoy a 20 - 25 percent discount on roundtrip MileagePlus Saver Awards in United Economy® when you travel from the U.S. or Canada to Sydney, Australia. Book by January 28, 2016, and travel between February 2, 2016, and June 22, 2016, to take advantage of the discounted rates.
Discount Days of travel - Regular price - Reduced price*
25% off Sun, Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu 80,000 miles - 60,000 miles
20% off Fri, Sat 80,000 miles - 64,000 miles
*Some exclusions apply. See terms and conditions for details.
Note: This table shows mileage rates for roundtrip flights. For one-way itineraries, the regular price still applies.
Book: January 4 - January 28, 2016
Travel: February 2, 2016 - June 22, 2016
Book your next trip to Australia with our Saver Awards sale
Ongoing Offer
Posted Mon., Jan. 4, 2016
Because you are a valued MileagePlus Premier® member or United MileagePlus Credit Card from Chase cardmember, we are offering you exclusive early access to our Saver Awards sale.
For a limited time, enjoy a 20 - 25 percent discount on roundtrip MileagePlus Saver Awards in United Economy® when you travel from the U.S. or Canada to Sydney, Australia. Book by January 28, 2016, and travel between February 2, 2016, and June 22, 2016, to take advantage of the discounted rates.
Discount Days of travel - Regular price - Reduced price*
25% off Sun, Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu 80,000 miles - 60,000 miles
20% off Fri, Sat 80,000 miles - 64,000 miles
*Some exclusions apply. See terms and conditions for details.
Note: This table shows mileage rates for roundtrip flights. For one-way itineraries, the regular price still applies.
Book: January 4 - January 28, 2016
Travel: February 2, 2016 - June 22, 2016
Jan 6, 2016, 3:41 pm
#21
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Back in Reds Country (DAY/CVG). Previously: SEA & SAT.
Programs: DL PM 1MM, AA PLAT, UA Silver, Marriott Bonvoy Titanium
Posts: 10,367
Bummer. Was just on pace to hit the mark I needed for two tickets this coming spring when the booking window would open for a trip to AUS/NZ in Spring 2017 (Fall in the southern hemisphere). Now needed an extra 60K miles will mean either
1) forking out over $2K in cash
2) convincing my wife to get a DL Gold AmEx with a 30-50K sign-up bonus, then transferring me those miles (would be cheaper than buying)
3) Buying a leg one-way in J on the same flight, which wouldn't be the worst thing, as it would at least mean MQMs for part of the journey, but might still be expensive and more than I want to spend depending on what it prices to.
1) forking out over $2K in cash
2) convincing my wife to get a DL Gold AmEx with a 30-50K sign-up bonus, then transferring me those miles (would be cheaper than buying)
3) Buying a leg one-way in J on the same flight, which wouldn't be the worst thing, as it would at least mean MQMs for part of the journey, but might still be expensive and more than I want to spend depending on what it prices to.
Jan 6, 2016, 4:47 pm
#23
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Back in Reds Country (DAY/CVG). Previously: SEA & SAT.
Programs: DL PM 1MM, AA PLAT, UA Silver, Marriott Bonvoy Titanium
Posts: 10,367
Bummer. Was just on pace to hit the mark I needed for two tickets this coming spring when the booking window would open for a trip to AUS/NZ in Spring 2017 (Fall in the southern hemisphere). Now needed an extra 60K miles will mean either
1) forking out over $2K in cash
2) convincing my wife to get a DL Gold AmEx with a 30-50K sign-up bonus, then transferring me those miles (would be cheaper than buying)
3) Buying a leg one-way in J on the same flight, which wouldn't be the worst thing, as it would at least mean MQMs for part of the journey, but might still be expensive and more than I want to spend depending on what it prices to.
1) forking out over $2K in cash
2) convincing my wife to get a DL Gold AmEx with a 30-50K sign-up bonus, then transferring me those miles (would be cheaper than buying)
3) Buying a leg one-way in J on the same flight, which wouldn't be the worst thing, as it would at least mean MQMs for part of the journey, but might still be expensive and more than I want to spend depending on what it prices to.
Jan 6, 2016, 4:56 pm
#24
FlyerTalk Evangelist & Ambassador: China
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: DEN
Programs: DL DM/MM, UA 1K, AA Exp, HH Dia, WOH Glob, IHG Plat, Marriott Gold, NA EE, Hertz PC
Posts: 17,423
Higher award prices on KE too being reported on the SM Partner thread too. Now it's no mystery to why the charts disappeared.
Jan 6, 2016, 5:08 pm
#25
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: PVU, SLC
Programs: DL Pork Medallion, PP, GE
Posts: 1,657
90K in business class? Shoot, anything I ever looked at in Australia, the rest of the Pacific Islands, and half of Asia wanted 300-400K per person in J. Same for the Dubai/Abu Dhabi/Doha area, as well as South Africa.
Jan 6, 2016, 6:04 pm
#26
Join Date: Jan 2005
Programs: DL Diamond, QF Gold
Posts: 96
Hilarious:
October sees DL40/41 LAX-SYD-LAX for 750k points in Business!
(Cabin on the flights appears almost empty!) (Fri Sep 30/Oct 16 return).
That's a clear - please go away we don't like you kind of number from Delta.
October sees DL40/41 LAX-SYD-LAX for 750k points in Business!
(Cabin on the flights appears almost empty!) (Fri Sep 30/Oct 16 return).
That's a clear - please go away we don't like you kind of number from Delta.
Jan 6, 2016, 7:01 pm
#27
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: ORD / MDW / FLL
Programs: DL DM/1MM, AA EXP, SPG Platinum, Hyatt Platinum, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 2,295
I may send a letter of protest to DL on my way out the door because this is complete bullsh@t. If I could cancel my trip to DOH next week on KL I would.
Jan 6, 2016, 7:06 pm
#28
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: PIT, BWI, or IPT
Programs: Dividend Miles, WorldPerks
Posts: 1,303
Like everyone else...I sure am happy I booked my trip down under last fall for this year.
Like everyone else...you just knew this was coming.
Oh SkyPesos...how thee used to be almost worthy of my time.
Like everyone else...you just knew this was coming.
Oh SkyPesos...how thee used to be almost worthy of my time.
Jan 6, 2016, 7:29 pm
#29
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Mostly living in the basement
Programs: Newly minted free agent; MR LT(!)TE, HH SE, BA SECM, DL MM, UA PS, 2V Fanboi, CBP GE
Posts: 5,110
All perfectly reasonable from the perspective of the business. All perfectly reasonable to find other international carriers from the perspective of the consumer.
Jan 6, 2016, 7:45 pm
#30
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AA EXP, IHG Diamond, IC Amb
Posts: 5,517