Forced Gate Check Carry-ons?
Jan 6, 2016, 1:28 pm
#76
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I wouldn't make sure it would delay the departure. If they said "OK, the cost is $15 per $1,000 insurance, how much do you want and please hand me a credit card" I'd just do that.
Of course, if I saw empty bins when I boarded, I'd photograph them and ask for my money back after the flight.
Of course, if I saw empty bins when I boarded, I'd photograph them and ask for my money back after the flight.
..... which would guarantee that the flight would not leave on time
Jan 6, 2016, 7:12 pm
#77
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This post reminds me of why I carry, in the front pocket of my DL-provided 2MM award rollaboard, a copy of an e-mail from the DL rep assuring me that the bag is carry-on legal.
This thread can now return to the "I know you are but what am I?" bickering.
This thread can now return to the "I know you are but what am I?" bickering.
Jan 6, 2016, 7:44 pm
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Just to throw in, there would be more space available in OH bins if they were packed correctly. I am always amazed at how many DM/PM folks still do not get the concept that on a 2/3 aircraft, the Rollaboard goes on the 3 side and the smaller bags go on the 2 side.... one of my travel pet peeves, especially when the FA'S do not intervene (but are just watching)
What's especially frustrating is that I use a 18" rollaboard that actually does fit in the 2-seat side, but it's rare that I can convince an FA that everything can fit if they swap the purse on the 3-side with the Tumi steamer on the 2-side, and then my bag will slide right in next to the purse.
I played Tetris a lot as a kid.
Jan 6, 2016, 11:22 pm
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Jan 7, 2016, 9:58 am
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This. It's easy to end up with a bag of $10K+ camera gear if you go for a professional quality back and a few more exotic lenses, and if an airline makes it hard to protect/insure a very valuable kit, it's not my fault if it takes some time for them to get their system that does it to work.
Jan 7, 2016, 7:02 pm
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This. It's easy to end up with a bag of $10K+ camera gear if you go for a professional quality back and a few more exotic lenses, and if an airline makes it hard to protect/insure a very valuable kit, it's not my fault if it takes some time for them to get their system that does it to work.
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Jan 7, 2016, 7:16 pm
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Trumped by the airline right to check any bag at their discretion, which you agree to when you purchase ticket.
Jan 7, 2016, 11:34 pm
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Probably worth repeating:
I read this far to see what was going on, and stopped.
As a DM who flew about 110K this year and banked, some of it on these routes, I haven't experienced this issue.
Is this issue really "as presented?"
Perhaps a different attitude or approach would result in an entirely different set of behaviors, and eliminate the perception of GAs/FAs acting arbitrarily in regard to this matter.
As a DM who flew about 110K this year and banked, some of it on these routes, I haven't experienced this issue.
Is this issue really "as presented?"
Perhaps a different attitude or approach would result in an entirely different set of behaviors, and eliminate the perception of GAs/FAs acting arbitrarily in regard to this matter.
Jan 7, 2016, 11:42 pm
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It's worth noting that Delta and United both only accept excess valuation up to $5000 (which is easy to go over with photographic equipment, as you mentioned). United's wording potentially suggests they won't even accept a bag over that value ("United will accept baggage with a declared value up to $5,000 USD/CAD provided the item is properly described, properly packaged and undamaged."), whereas Delta suggest that's just the maximum they will insure it to.
If such insurance and the airline's responsibility / financial interest have been decoupled, I would expect the insurance cost to be much more.
And can that new guy with all the charts a few days ago give us some projections on the cost here
? Isn't this just the kind of associated service DL can make money on -- because our cost/risk should be much lower than a private party?
Jan 8, 2016, 11:59 am
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This. It's easy to end up with a bag of $10K+ camera gear if you go for a professional quality back and a few more exotic lenses, and if an airline makes it hard to protect/insure a very valuable kit, it's not my fault if it takes some time for them to get their system that does it to work.
Have someone install in it a custom foam insert with cutouts for your camera equipment.
Guitars trump all carry-on rules.
(Of course, I am just being facetious.
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Jan 8, 2016, 4:45 pm
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Jan 8, 2016, 5:20 pm
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I was boarding flight recently, and, there was a 20something girl (who was flying in Y) right in front of me with a guitar case. We stepped on board, and she asked the FA if there was somewhere she could put her guitar case. The FA eagerly obliged, and opened the closet. He took it from her - - (seemed normal to me) - - and she RAISED her voice and said - - IT'S FRAGILE!!! IF YOU'RE GONNA TREAT IT LIKE THAT - - GIVE IT BACK TO ME!!! . . . . . . . .
Must've been LOADED with camera equipment!!
Must've been LOADED with camera equipment!!
Jan 8, 2016, 8:17 pm
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... a 20something girl (who was flying in Y) right in front of me with a guitar case. We stepped on board, and she asked the FA if there was somewhere she could put her guitar case. The FA eagerly obliged, and opened the closet. He took it from her - - (seemed normal to me) - - and she RAISED her voice and said - - IT'S FRAGILE!!! IF YOU'RE GONNA TREAT IT LIKE THAT - - GIVE IT BACK TO ME!!! . .
Jan 8, 2016, 8:52 pm
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Hmm. Have you tried? It's been a while, but I once flew TWA with an item insured to a few multiples of that. (Which they misplaced for under 30 minutes).
If such insurance and the airline's responsibility / financial interest have been decoupled, I would expect the insurance cost to be much more.
And can that new guy with all the charts a few days ago give us some projections on the cost here ? Isn't this just the kind of associated service DL can make money on -- because our cost/risk should be much lower than a private party?
If such insurance and the airline's responsibility / financial interest have been decoupled, I would expect the insurance cost to be much more.
And can that new guy with all the charts a few days ago give us some projections on the cost here
? Isn't this just the kind of associated service DL can make money on -- because our cost/risk should be much lower than a private party?