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Old Dec 11, 2015, 9:16 pm
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Originally Posted by bubbashow
THIS. I wish Delta (AND EVERY CARRIER) would enforce carry on rules more-stringently. I have flown Ryan Air a few times in Europe....while the experience isn't award winning by any means, their carry on policing makes the boarding process great. No waivers, no favors, nada...bag fits in sizer, or it doesn't.

Why don't US carriers utilize the sizers at security. It seems like after 9/11 I went through several airports with a plastic template through which the bag either fit, or it was checked.
That was tried; but different airlines have different rules, and the ones that allowed slightly larger bags sued and won.
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Old Dec 11, 2015, 9:38 pm
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Originally Posted by sethb
My own policy is that I would buy checked baggage insurance from Delta if they insist on checking such items. The point isn't the money, it's the amount of time it would take the GA to figure out how to sell the insurance, which would guarantee that the flight would not leave on time.
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Old Dec 11, 2015, 11:02 pm
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Originally Posted by 3Cforme
The same foolish question was posed on the AA forum. The response can be simplified: One does not have a right to board a plane with a bag.

Beyond FAA prohibitions, GAs and FAs determine what can be safely stowed within the confines of space and allowable weight.

Sorry.

As stated the bag could go under the seat. And, there was room in the overhead.

The staff is getting a power trip by forcing people to check bags when it is not needed.

Just because a smaller group tries to take advantage is no reason for the staff to go nuts and force this crap. I am really getting tired of them gate checking when there is lots of room in the overhead (and in this case, underneath the seat).
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Old Dec 12, 2015, 12:17 pm
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My airport asks for volunteers to check bags as soon as the gate opens and no one has ever been required (to my knowledge) to check a bag since they started doing that.
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Old Dec 12, 2015, 1:22 pm
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sethb's suggestion is a good one! Another suggestion that has been posted before and seems like it might work is the following:

"I'm sorry <GATE AGENT's NAME>, but I am a Lithium-ion battery salesperson and my bag is just full of loose batteries."

Just hope they don't call your bluff...
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Old Dec 14, 2015, 4:31 pm
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UPDATE...from Delta:

"You shared that the gate agents are requiring passengers to gate check their carry on bag without question or regard to space available on the plane or the contents of the bag. This is unacceptable. Yes our agents know the importance of an on-time departure; however, they should be communicating with our flight attendants during the boarding process so that we can accommodate as many bags as possible onboard the plane. So, if this isn't happening we want to know so we can address this with our team members and their leadership team. It's especially concerning to learn the gate agents have an attitude about the carryon bag policy. We don't tolerate rudeness and I'm sorry if you both haven't received the caring and helpful service we expect our agents to provide. Again, your feedback is important to us so we can forward it for internal follow up."

Yet the only solution provided if we're asked to check our bag is to pull out what contents we need and carry on the plane. I have refuted this in a follow up email...we'll see how that goes.

But in the mean time - we don't have to lay down and play dead to the GAs and FAs. It seems that we're far from having "no rights" to carry on a bag.
So if the rest of us were to take the time and push forward an email to Delta Customer Service, then maybe more will happen with this allot sooner!
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Old Dec 14, 2015, 4:34 pm
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Originally Posted by TTT
sethb's suggestion is a good one! Another suggestion that has been posted before and seems like it might work is the following:

"I'm sorry <GATE AGENT's NAME>, but I am a Lithium-ion battery salesperson and my bag is just full of loose batteries."

Just hope they don't call your bluff...
I travel with a variety of devices that have lithium ion batteries. If I had to gate check my carryon I'd have too many items to be allowed to carry them on, so they have to go in my carryon... which then can't be checked.

Just carry a tablet or two, a laptop, and a backup battery or two. Oh and my headphones have lithium ion batteries in them, too.
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Old Dec 15, 2015, 12:24 am
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Originally Posted by HonoraryOrange
I travel with a variety of devices that have lithium ion batteries. If I had to gate check my carryon I'd have too many items to be allowed to carry them on, so they have to go in my carryon... which then can't be checked.

Just carry a tablet or two, a laptop, and a backup battery or two. Oh and my headphones have lithium ion batteries in them, too.
Your carrying regulated items does not translate to a change in the number of items permitted as carryons. Fail.
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Old Dec 15, 2015, 11:30 pm
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Originally Posted by LaserSailor
Your carrying regulated items does not translate to a change in the number of items permitted as carryons. Fail.
5 items in my carryon bag = one carryon, allowed.

If I have to check the bag, I have to take those 5 items out and carry them separately. 5 items = not allowed.
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Old Dec 16, 2015, 1:13 am
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Originally Posted by sethb
5 items in my carryon bag = one carryon, allowed.

If I have to check the bag, I have to take those 5 items out and carry them separately. 5 items = not allowed.
Yep, and you'd have the perfect chance to pull a DYKWIA moment and get a red coat, and they will let you on with your carryon.

Remember, we're not talking about a 99% boarded flight here, we're talking about being forced to check before boarding even begins or early on in the process. Frankly, that's just not going to happen.
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Old Dec 16, 2015, 1:34 am
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I'd be afraid that in a case like this, a redcoat would defend the GA and if pushed, prevent you from flying.
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Old Dec 16, 2015, 2:37 am
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I seriously doubt it if the bins are actually full and your carryon really is regulation sized.
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Old Dec 16, 2015, 10:00 am
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In the past, I've just taken the tag and brought my bag on board. If it fits, it stays.
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Old Dec 16, 2015, 10:20 am
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Originally Posted by sethb
In the past, I've just taken the tag and brought my bag on board. If it fits, it stays.
I've done that too.

Do you remove the tag in the jetway?
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Old Dec 16, 2015, 1:54 pm
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
I'd be afraid that in a case like this, a redcoat would defend the GA and if pushed, prevent you from flying.
That was the case in my wife's first incident: it WAS a Red Coat that was giving her all the grief!
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