Forced Gate Check Carry-ons?
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Newest update...
Previously, I had inquired Delta as to the validity of this whole issue and got a response here.
I have since replied that it's not really an option to "pull items from my bag and carry them on" since the whole point of the carry on bag is that I'm carrying expensive camera gear or laptops and the bag is for their protection/organization.
Here is their latest response:
I do understand your concern with the way the agents are handling the carry-on bag policy - especially since the last situation involved a Red Coat. I get your frustration in being told you have to gate check your bag, when you have special items in the carry-on bag that you didn't want to be put in a checked bag. We realize that more passengers are taking carry-on bags, so there has been an increase of bags checked at the gate. Both our gate agents and flight attendants, should be monitoring and in constant communication during the boarding process; to ensure that passengers are only bringing one carry-on bag, and that all the bins have been filled. So, if this isn't happening we want to know so we can address it with the appropriate team members and leadership team.
One suggestion I can give both you and your wife, is to bring a small personal bag (which is allowed) so you can move items into in case you do have to gate check your bag. I realize this isn't the ideal situation, but it's something that I do and is a quick solution to keeping some of your personal items with you. As we continue to review our carry-on bag policy and procedure, your comments will help us improve our service.
So now we enter into a new realm of definition...between "carry on bag" vs "small personal bag (which is allowed)"
Again, my response was non conclusive when asking:
in the mean time, before the leadership teams come up with a process that is known to gate agents and customers alike, when I have to tell a gate agent or flight attendant that: "No, I will not be checking this bag because of the contents - it will fit under the seat in front of me" - what option do I have?
other than coming up with a "small personal bag" ???
I think I'll come up with Cabin OK sized bag that fits in a normal sized carry on roller bag. Then when I say, can I remove the contents and carry them on - I'll just unzip the larger roller, pulling out a smaller roller.
Previously, I had inquired Delta as to the validity of this whole issue and got a response here.
I have since replied that it's not really an option to "pull items from my bag and carry them on" since the whole point of the carry on bag is that I'm carrying expensive camera gear or laptops and the bag is for their protection/organization.
Here is their latest response:
I do understand your concern with the way the agents are handling the carry-on bag policy - especially since the last situation involved a Red Coat. I get your frustration in being told you have to gate check your bag, when you have special items in the carry-on bag that you didn't want to be put in a checked bag. We realize that more passengers are taking carry-on bags, so there has been an increase of bags checked at the gate. Both our gate agents and flight attendants, should be monitoring and in constant communication during the boarding process; to ensure that passengers are only bringing one carry-on bag, and that all the bins have been filled. So, if this isn't happening we want to know so we can address it with the appropriate team members and leadership team.
One suggestion I can give both you and your wife, is to bring a small personal bag (which is allowed) so you can move items into in case you do have to gate check your bag. I realize this isn't the ideal situation, but it's something that I do and is a quick solution to keeping some of your personal items with you. As we continue to review our carry-on bag policy and procedure, your comments will help us improve our service.
So now we enter into a new realm of definition...between "carry on bag" vs "small personal bag (which is allowed)"
Again, my response was non conclusive when asking:
in the mean time, before the leadership teams come up with a process that is known to gate agents and customers alike, when I have to tell a gate agent or flight attendant that: "No, I will not be checking this bag because of the contents - it will fit under the seat in front of me" - what option do I have?
other than coming up with a "small personal bag" ???
I think I'll come up with Cabin OK sized bag that fits in a normal sized carry on roller bag. Then when I say, can I remove the contents and carry them on - I'll just unzip the larger roller, pulling out a smaller roller.
#48
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I have noticed a uptick in the aggressiveness of wanting to pink-tag bags...though flights I've noticed this on were either on CR2s or CR7s, so I don't know that anyone should be surprised if your bag isn't in DL's "official" guidelines for carry-on size if you're flying one of those birds.
I haven't seen it enforced as much on mainline flights.
I haven't seen it enforced as much on mainline flights.
#49
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Similar situation - ATL-SNA 12/31. Young woman (aisle) with two coats, back-pack, large travel tote and food. She seemed clueless where to put it all. I was surprised FA didn't see the tote at her feet (not under the seat).
Plane was packed Holiday & end of IRROPS so figured crew were just trying to
get the plane in the air.
Seriously, can't backpacks be checked?
#50
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So I'm flying delta in April Detroit to Seattle. I plain to only have a standard backpack since it's just a overnight trip. Will I get hassled and forced to gate check a backpack or are they only going after those with standard carry on? I've only every flown southwest before so delta will be new territory.
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Newest update...
Previously, I had inquired Delta as to the validity of this whole issue and got a response here.
I have since replied that it's not really an option to "pull items from my bag and carry them on" since the whole point of the carry on bag is that I'm carrying expensive camera gear or laptops and the bag is for their protection/organization.
Here is their latest response:
I do understand your concern with the way the agents are handling the carry-on bag policy - especially since the last situation involved a Red Coat. I get your frustration in being told you have to gate check your bag, when you have special items in the carry-on bag that you didn't want to be put in a checked bag. We realize that more passengers are taking carry-on bags, so there has been an increase of bags checked at the gate. Both our gate agents and flight attendants, should be monitoring and in constant communication during the boarding process; to ensure that passengers are only bringing one carry-on bag, and that all the bins have been filled. So, if this isn't happening we want to know so we can address it with the appropriate team members and leadership team.
One suggestion I can give both you and your wife, is to bring a small personal bag (which is allowed) so you can move items into in case you do have to gate check your bag. I realize this isn't the ideal situation, but it's something that I do and is a quick solution to keeping some of your personal items with you. As we continue to review our carry-on bag policy and procedure, your comments will help us improve our service.
So now we enter into a new realm of definition...between "carry on bag" vs "small personal bag (which is allowed)"
Again, my response was non conclusive when asking:
in the mean time, before the leadership teams come up with a process that is known to gate agents and customers alike, when I have to tell a gate agent or flight attendant that: "No, I will not be checking this bag because of the contents - it will fit under the seat in front of me" - what option do I have?
other than coming up with a "small personal bag" ???
I think I'll come up with Cabin OK sized bag that fits in a normal sized carry on roller bag. Then when I say, can I remove the contents and carry them on - I'll just unzip the larger roller, pulling out a smaller roller.
Previously, I had inquired Delta as to the validity of this whole issue and got a response here.
I have since replied that it's not really an option to "pull items from my bag and carry them on" since the whole point of the carry on bag is that I'm carrying expensive camera gear or laptops and the bag is for their protection/organization.
Here is their latest response:
I do understand your concern with the way the agents are handling the carry-on bag policy - especially since the last situation involved a Red Coat. I get your frustration in being told you have to gate check your bag, when you have special items in the carry-on bag that you didn't want to be put in a checked bag. We realize that more passengers are taking carry-on bags, so there has been an increase of bags checked at the gate. Both our gate agents and flight attendants, should be monitoring and in constant communication during the boarding process; to ensure that passengers are only bringing one carry-on bag, and that all the bins have been filled. So, if this isn't happening we want to know so we can address it with the appropriate team members and leadership team.
One suggestion I can give both you and your wife, is to bring a small personal bag (which is allowed) so you can move items into in case you do have to gate check your bag. I realize this isn't the ideal situation, but it's something that I do and is a quick solution to keeping some of your personal items with you. As we continue to review our carry-on bag policy and procedure, your comments will help us improve our service.
So now we enter into a new realm of definition...between "carry on bag" vs "small personal bag (which is allowed)"
Again, my response was non conclusive when asking:
in the mean time, before the leadership teams come up with a process that is known to gate agents and customers alike, when I have to tell a gate agent or flight attendant that: "No, I will not be checking this bag because of the contents - it will fit under the seat in front of me" - what option do I have?
other than coming up with a "small personal bag" ???
I think I'll come up with Cabin OK sized bag that fits in a normal sized carry on roller bag. Then when I say, can I remove the contents and carry them on - I'll just unzip the larger roller, pulling out a smaller roller.
#52
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So I'm flying delta in April Detroit to Seattle. I plain to only have a standard backpack since it's just a overnight trip. Will I get hassled and forced to gate check a backpack or are they only going after those with standard carry on? I've only every flown southwest before so delta will be new territory.
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However I've noticed GA's tend not to gate check backpacks even when they force gate-checking rollaboards, so he's probably fine.
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So you're that guy who comes bumping down the aisle humping more gear than we used to carry for a 21 day Long Range Reconnaissance Patrol, oblivious to the fact that the pack takes up space and moves into others space when you move/rotate.
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So I'm flying delta in April Detroit to Seattle. I plain to only have a standard backpack since it's just a overnight trip. Will I get hassled and forced to gate check a backpack or are they only going after those with standard carry on? I've only every flown southwest before so delta will be new territory.
I had my Agama with me on my last 4 Delta flights. There were the roaming agents doing the tagging in the waiting areas. People on either side of me were approached to tag - I was not.
#56
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OK so maybe I took the liberty of assuming the backpack was similar in size to mine, which is packed full but still fits in the seat in front of me.
#57
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My own policy is that I would buy checked baggage insurance from Delta if they insist on checking such items. The point isn't the money, it's the amount of time it would take the GA to figure out how to sell the insurance, which would guarantee that the flight would not leave on time.
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I have no issue if they REALLY HAVE to check the bags.
But I can't count how many times I've boarded the plane (I typically check a bag) and have seen empty overhead bins after they already forced bags to be checked. It has to be at least 50% of the flights I'm on.
Bags lined up by the jet bridge door way waiting to be loaded when there are numerous bins open.
Then the flight attendants just go and shut overhead bins - that still have room.
It just makes the customer unhappy and the ground crew do more work.
But I can't count how many times I've boarded the plane (I typically check a bag) and have seen empty overhead bins after they already forced bags to be checked. It has to be at least 50% of the flights I'm on.
Bags lined up by the jet bridge door way waiting to be loaded when there are numerous bins open.
Then the flight attendants just go and shut overhead bins - that still have room.
It just makes the customer unhappy and the ground crew do more work.
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This x2. My Pacsafe shoulder bag/backpack that's bigger than a lot of wheelie bags (but still fits in the sizer) always just gets waved through by the GA even when they're otherwise on a tear about gate checking those smaller wheeled bags for a full load RJ.