Is Co-Terminaling going bye/bye???
Nov 17, 2015, 6:06 am
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Never a problem w/ A or P. It was a G fare and I was told that my fare had an economy fare basis w/ an automatic upgrade. I'm assuming that this only applies to G? I SDC A and P all the time (pretty much every week at least once) and have never had an issue so I just assumed it was the G fare. Probably off base w/ that assumption as I don't follow these things very closely...
If I try a FC SDC in the future, I'm going to try to watch what coach and FC fares are showing as available, although G and most of the underlying coach fares generally aren't available on the day of departure.
Nov 17, 2015, 6:17 am
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AFAIK A and at least most P fares also have underlying coach fare bases.
If I try a FC SDC in the future, I'm going to try to watch what coach and FC fares are showing as available, although G and most of the underlying coach fares generally aren't available on the day of departure.
If I try a FC SDC in the future, I'm going to try to watch what coach and FC fares are showing as available, although G and most of the underlying coach fares generally aren't available on the day of departure.
Nov 17, 2015, 6:21 am
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The post that I quoted concerned SDC from a FC fare that DL apparently decided to sell to the general public. AFAIK there was no use of the co-terminal benefit involved.
Nov 17, 2015, 6:24 am
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would you graciously accept the fact that DM agent or the GA tells you to pound sand? or would you patiently (or maybe not so patiently) explain the difference, and escalate to a supervisor or redcoat in an effort to "game the system" to get your desired outcome?
Nov 17, 2015, 6:39 am
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I always graciously accept what is mutually decided. I have never had to escalate any issue to a redcoat, I have never had to escalate to a supervisor. I truly feel that DL has always done the right thing for me, yet I have never stretched the limits of ethics nor taken advantage of loopholes for purposes for which they weren't designed. It's those that do stretch that will be upset by this. Flexible fares have always existed. When I have traveled for work, and they needed me to be flexible, they have provided such a fare to me. If your employer won't, your issue is with your employer, not DL.
Nov 17, 2015, 7:12 am
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In regard to getting bad info from agents - - and in this case, even after I escalated to a supv . . . .
I was flying PIT/BKK/PIT. On the way back, I was overnighting in LA, then LAX/JFK/PIT the next day. Cheap ($1200 V class) ticket upgraded via GUC . . . .
I had a 4 hour layover at JFK, so, I wanted to do a SDC after I got into LA from NRT to a later LAX/JFK flight to hava shorter layover. Here's what ensued . . . .
1) Fiasco #1 - Arrived in LA - after Customs, I was at about T-21 hours. I called the DM line, and the agent couldn't do it, she said . . . .
#1, because the BKK/NRT/LAX flights hadn't posted yet. - AND -
#2, my V class originally purchased wasn't available.
Her exact words - - "YOU HAVE A LOT GOIN ON HERE!!!"
#2 Fiasco - I escalated to a supv.
The segments are married, and, an F UG isn't available on JFK/PIT, and V class isn't available, so, I can't do it.
I told her that, if she looks at my fare breakdown, she'd see that, in actuality, I was on 2 separate fares: PIT/NYC nested within NYC/BKK.
She said: I'm looking at it right now, and you're NOT on 2 separate fares!!
Here's my fare breakdown - You guyz tell me:
Fare Details: PIT DL NYC109.30VE21A0NQ DL X/LAX DL X/TYO DL BKK 5M243.60VLW0ZPAX DL X/TYO DL X/LAX DL X/MSP DL NYC 5M164.85VLX0ZPAX DL PIT109.30VE21A0NQ NUC627.05END
Eventually - she did it . . . . . "As a courtesy"!!!
(I was originally booked LAX/MSP/LGA/PIT, but due to schedule changes, I got it changed to LAX/JFK/PIT)
I was flying PIT/BKK/PIT. On the way back, I was overnighting in LA, then LAX/JFK/PIT the next day. Cheap ($1200 V class) ticket upgraded via GUC . . . .
I had a 4 hour layover at JFK, so, I wanted to do a SDC after I got into LA from NRT to a later LAX/JFK flight to hava shorter layover. Here's what ensued . . . .
1) Fiasco #1 - Arrived in LA - after Customs, I was at about T-21 hours. I called the DM line, and the agent couldn't do it, she said . . . .
#1, because the BKK/NRT/LAX flights hadn't posted yet. - AND -
#2, my V class originally purchased wasn't available.
Her exact words - - "YOU HAVE A LOT GOIN ON HERE!!!"
#2 Fiasco - I escalated to a supv.
The segments are married, and, an F UG isn't available on JFK/PIT, and V class isn't available, so, I can't do it.
I told her that, if she looks at my fare breakdown, she'd see that, in actuality, I was on 2 separate fares: PIT/NYC nested within NYC/BKK.
She said: I'm looking at it right now, and you're NOT on 2 separate fares!!
Here's my fare breakdown - You guyz tell me:
Fare Details: PIT DL NYC109.30VE21A0NQ DL X/LAX DL X/TYO DL BKK 5M243.60VLW0ZPAX DL X/TYO DL X/LAX DL X/MSP DL NYC 5M164.85VLX0ZPAX DL PIT109.30VE21A0NQ NUC627.05END
Eventually - she did it . . . . . "As a courtesy"!!!
(I was originally booked LAX/MSP/LGA/PIT, but due to schedule changes, I got it changed to LAX/JFK/PIT)
Nov 17, 2015, 7:20 am
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An individual can purchase a flexible fare as easily as a business. They are there for one reason...flexibility. Why would anyone pay the up-charge to flexible when they can get around it with various loopholes? Good for DL.
Nov 17, 2015, 7:25 am
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Nov 17, 2015, 7:30 am
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No...I think that a fair result would be based on fare bucket availability for SDC. SDS - hell, let anyone stand by...with loads what they are, good luck.
Buy a G fare, move only to a flight with G availability.
Buy a P fare, move only to a flight with P availability.
Eliminate co-terminal altogether. Buy what you want.
Buy a G fare, move only to a flight with G availability.
Buy a P fare, move only to a flight with P availability.
Eliminate co-terminal altogether. Buy what you want.
Nov 17, 2015, 8:00 am
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No...I think that a fair result would be based on fare bucket availability for SDC. SDS - hell, let anyone stand by...with loads what they are, good luck.
Buy a G fare, move only to a flight with G availability.
Buy a P fare, move only to a flight with P availability.
Eliminate co-terminal altogether. Buy what you want.
Buy a G fare, move only to a flight with G availability.
Buy a P fare, move only to a flight with P availability.
Eliminate co-terminal altogether. Buy what you want.
Nov 17, 2015, 8:02 am
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Nov 17, 2015, 8:46 am
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Nov 17, 2015, 8:49 am
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Nov 17, 2015, 9:11 am
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