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vschip Sep 14, 2015 6:07 am

SDC while using Regional Upgrade Certificates (RUC) Definitive Thread
 
Had to use my regional upgrade certificate as they expire next month, flight with a departure time that worked best for me(and had upgrade eligibility) was traveling BOS-MSP-LAX, with a 3:07 sit in MSP. There is a MSP-LAX flight that I'd like to SDC into that would only have a 1:16 sit in MSP. The rules for SDC say medallion complimentary upgrades won't be honored, but they don't really say anything about regional upgrade certificates. Does anyone have experience doing a SDC while on a regional certificate and being able to stay in FC?

ryanfinger Sep 14, 2015 6:33 am

My personal experience is that if you are confirmed into 1st for your journey you should be able to SDC to another flight into 1st (assuming space is available). Normal SDC rules apply. Might need to make multiple calls to get the right agent.

DiverDave Sep 14, 2015 7:08 am


Originally Posted by vschip (Post 25422022)
Had to use my regional upgrade certificate as they expire next month, flight with a departure time that worked best for me(and had upgrade eligibility) was traveling BOS-MSP-LAX, with a 3:07 sit in MSP. There is a MSP-LAX flight that I'd like to SDC into that would only have a 1:16 sit in MSP. The rules for SDC say medallion complimentary upgrades won't be honored, but they don't really say anything about regional upgrade certificates. Does anyone have experience doing a SDC while on a regional certificate and being able to stay in FC?

Well, you are ticketed in the FC cabin and SDC should work.

But I imagine it will take multiple calls to accomplish.

David

DLATL777 Sep 14, 2015 7:28 am

It takes insistence on the rules that's for sure. I think many agents see "Upgrade" and dont make the distinction whether it was by instrument or complimentary. Often the first time they start down the "same fare class" road I have to remind them this isnt a complimentary upgrade but an instrument sponsored upgrade. From that point, half still insist they are right then I have to hang up and call back.

flyerCO Sep 14, 2015 7:59 am

The only time you don't get the SDC First policy is with Medallion upgrades. Anything else gives it, however the agent sometimes needs to have it pointed out that you're not in First because of a medallion upgrade. Search for same day confirmed on the Delta website and one of their own pages will have the info.

MSPeconomist Sep 14, 2015 12:02 pm


Originally Posted by DLATL777 (Post 25422302)
It takes insistence on the rules that's for sure. I think many agents see "Upgrade" and dont make the distinction whether it was by instrument or complimentary. Often the first time they start down the "same fare class" road I have to remind them this isnt a complimentary upgrade but an instrument sponsored upgrade. From that point, half still insist they are right then I have to hang up and call back.

Last week at ATL I had a clueless agent who even called his help line and was told by them that I couldn't SDC directly into FC when I was confirmed in FC on the old flight using a GUC. He told me to call the DM line.

flyerCO Sep 14, 2015 12:15 pm


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 25423881)
Last week at ATL I had a clueless agent who even called his help line and was told by them that I couldn't SDC directly into FC when I was confirmed in FC on the old flight using a GUC. He told me to call the DM line.

The manager of T4 JFK Skyclub insisted that seat availability means fare class. It took calling the DM line and having them call the Skyclub to get him to understand they're different things. They told him to try it doing it, as the system wouldn't confirm without additional payment if it doesn't comply with SDC rules. He did it and was quite shocked, but never apologized and acted like he did me a favor.

sethb Sep 14, 2015 7:24 pm


Originally Posted by vschip (Post 25422022)
Had to use my regional upgrade certificate as they expire next month, flight with a departure time that worked best for me(and had upgrade eligibility) was traveling BOS-MSP-LAX, with a 3:07 sit in MSP. There is a MSP-LAX flight that I'd like to SDC into that would only have a 1:16 sit in MSP. The rules for SDC say medallion complimentary upgrades won't be honored, but they don't really say anything about regional upgrade certificates. Does anyone have experience doing a SDC while on a regional certificate and being able to stay in FC?

If the RUC cleared (both legs) then you have a paid F ticket and can SDC to any flights with F availability (but not a nonstop). Not all agents know this or are competent, supervisor or agent roulette might be your only options.

Felixishim Sep 15, 2015 2:30 am


Originally Posted by sethb (Post 25426038)
If the RUC cleared (both legs) then you have a paid F ticket and can SDC to any flights with F availability (but not a nonstop). Not all agents know this or are competent, supervisor or agent roulette might be your only options.

+1 This

serfty Sep 16, 2015 1:36 am


Originally Posted by flyerCO (Post 25422419)
The only time you don't get the SDC First policy is with Medallion upgrades. Anything else gives it, however the agent sometimes needs to have it pointed out that you're not in First because of a medallion upgrade. Search for same day confirmed on the Delta website and one of their own pages will have the info.

Yes, it's sometime the role of the passengers to pleasantly educates agents of the naunces of the systems.

See this thread (& Wiki): http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...y-options.html
Note the following posted on July 24th, 2015:

Originally Posted by grant15 - Copy of mail from Delta July 13th 2015 (Post 25168784)
...
Thank you for your email to Delta inquiring about same-day travel
changes.

Although the same booking class (e.g. Q, K, L or U) still needs to be
available for same-day confirmed changes on the Main Cabin tickets, the
following updates have been implemented:
  1. The $50 same-day confirmed fee will be waived for Diamond, Platinum and Gold Medallion members.
  2. In addition, you are able to request a same-day change up to 24 hours before your original flight departure time, rather than only on your day of departure.
  3. Effective March 18, 2014, when flying in our premium cabins -- including Delta One, First and Business Class -- you may make a same-day confirmed change as long as a seat is available in the premium cabin, regardless of whether your exact booking class is available. This includes paid upgrade, mileage upgrade, Global and Regional Upgrade, and Systemwide Upgrade tickets.
Diamond, Platinum and Gold Medallion members flying in Main Cabin may continue to stand by free of charge when their booking class is not available. ...


WScottsdaleInsider Aug 22, 2019 8:11 pm

Any update to this? If you are confirmed using a regional upgrade can you SDC to any first class flight using cabin to cabin?

I've called and two agents said no, but wanted to double check official rules if you're confirmed into OY.

MSPeconomist Aug 22, 2019 8:20 pm

The rules say yes, but in practice it helps a lot if the ticket has already been reissued in FC. In practical terms, this means that if the RUC cleared very recently or if your ticket is stuck in some queue to be reissued, you will experience problems.

WScottsdaleInsider Aug 22, 2019 8:58 pm


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 31446097)
The rules say yes, but in practice it helps a lot if the ticket has already been reissued in FC. In practical terms, this means that if the RUC cleared very recently or if your ticket is stuck in some queue to be reissued, you will experience problems.

Does it say anywhere online that this can be done? I keep getting shut down from the front line agents

Zorak Aug 22, 2019 9:20 pm


Originally Posted by WScottsdaleInsider (Post 31446188)
Does it say anywhere online that this can be done? I keep getting shut down from the front line agents

​​​​​​Sadly, no. But I did get a response from DL saying this is still permitted, as posted in the main SDC thread:

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delt...l#post31265481

El Boocho Aug 22, 2019 10:00 pm

A couple of years ago, but after the 2015 timeframe I was told the info is in the Delta system at:


Knowledge Management
Same Day Travel Changes
Same Day Confirmed in Premium Cabin


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