Thirsty in C+, LAX-ATL
#32
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Almost an hour into my ATL-PBI flight in row 2 and just got offered a beverage (Md 90) and no PDB either (late catering).
Snack basket was brought by first. Never understood being offered food before beverage.
So thirsty.
Snack basket was brought by first. Never understood being offered food before beverage.
So thirsty.
#33
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If the FAs really wanted to provide great service they would have taken the orders on the ground and then started beverage service as soon as they were able. Then snack basket. Then refills.
I wonder if they think pax don't notice, or if they just don't care.
#34
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That's a prime example of FAs being purposefully lazy. It's the "no time for a refill" method.
If the FAs really wanted to provide great service they would have taken the orders on the ground and then started beverage service as soon as they were able. Then snack basket. Then refills.
I wonder if they think pax don't notice, or if they just don't care.
If the FAs really wanted to provide great service they would have taken the orders on the ground and then started beverage service as soon as they were able. Then snack basket. Then refills.
I wonder if they think pax don't notice, or if they just don't care.
As an FYI I fly DL and AA and find the overall service on DL quite good.
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#36
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I've heard PBI is the most hated destination among air crews. Perhaps that had something to do with it.
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#38
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I love how complaining to Delta is an automatic response. While service could very well be suffering in some cases, as others have pointed out, weather could've delayed drink service as the FA's must remain seated. This exact thing happened to me yesterday on my SLC-BWI flight. When will traveler's learn to have a contingency plan? If you can't go an hour without a drink or a blueberry muffin from the snack basket, bring your own. Weather, delays, bad service happens. Prepare accordingly.
#39
Join Date: May 2015
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I love how complaining to Delta is an automatic response. While service could very well be suffering in some cases, as others have pointed out, weather could've delayed drink service as the FA's must remain seated. This exact thing happened to me yesterday on my SLC-BWI flight. When will traveler's learn to have a contingency plan? If you can't go an hour without a drink or a blueberry muffin from the snack basket, bring your own. Weather, delays, bad service happens. Prepare accordingly.
Even when providing feedback won't get a drink any sooner, it brings up a perceived customer service failure to the company's attention, and the company can close the perceived gap in service by having employees communicate more about why the service isn't provided promptly. I hope that makes sense.
I bet the OP might be more peeved that the FAs said nothing as to why the drinks took so long than the fact that the drinks took so long. If the FAs gave a reason instead of being silent, maybe this thread wouldn't exist. pure speculation of course
#40
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I was referring specifically to this post.
One would think. But wouldn't it also make sense for the OP to actually ask the FA's of the flight he is on, why he hasn't received beverage service?
One would think. But wouldn't it also make sense for the OP to actually ask the FA's of the flight he is on, why he hasn't received beverage service?
#41
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Yet when that bad service happens, with exception to good reasons of the FA's being seated, it should be communicated to Delta. People are paying for this upgrade and expect a certain level of service above regular economy. I'd blame it on a lack of standardized training/procedures for all FA's in the C+category. That would explain the difference in service on my flights, which none had turbulence on that required the pilot to ask the FA's to remain seated.
#42
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The OP should totally ask an FA about the drink service if he wants to know, but I'd consider it superior customer service when an employee perceives a customer need and answers/solves the question before the customer asks it (instead of waiting to be asked).
Consider these two situations. They're both good CS, but I think one is better than the other:
You walk up to a ticket counter agent that you see weekly. She knows who you are.
- She waits for you to get to the counter before greeting you. She asks how many bags, and if you need boarding passes. Your answer's the same every week. She thanks you and you're on your way after about a minute.
- She greets you as you walk toward her. She notices you're carrying one large bag, so she starts printing the tag before you get to her. She sees the BP on your phone, so she thanks you and the 5-second stop at the desk is done.
#1 she did everything she's supposed to do and was very polite. It was all by the book. #2 she anticipated your needs and respecting the value of your time, proactively got you through the counter process quickly.
#43
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I was flying a 767. Weather was a non-issue. I was on the front row of C+ and watched the business section get their drinks (and food) before anyone gave a thought to us peons, so it didn't seem to stem from a pilot/weather order.
I somehow survived these travails and have gone on to something resembling normal life.
Seriously, evaluating a non c+ aisle vs a c+ window for my upcoming trip and wondering if it's worth the trouble. You're right - maybe a spot for my overhead bag is the only real benefit.
I somehow survived these travails and have gone on to something resembling normal life.
Seriously, evaluating a non c+ aisle vs a c+ window for my upcoming trip and wondering if it's worth the trouble. You're right - maybe a spot for my overhead bag is the only real benefit.
#45
Join Date: Jan 2011
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I've been flying DL a lot this year (I've achieved a Gold status match and almost hit 2016 Platinum in 6 months of flying). I've noticed that their economy drink service on longer flights is really lacking compared to AS. They often manage the service as the OP described - long waits for the first service and often no full second service; just coffee and water. AS brings the carts out as soon as it's safe to do so, then picks up trash right after, and then brings the carts out again. On a 2-hour flight, they always do two full beverage services, and on longer flights they do three.
Guess I'll have to just get to Diamond so I get upgraded more often on DL.
Guess I'll have to just get to Diamond so I get upgraded more often on DL.