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Using Delta Global Upgrades


DL page: https://www.delta.com/us/en/skymiles/medallion-program/medallion-upgrades
(click or scroll to "Upgrade Certificates Overview" and expand the "Show Additional Details & Terms" sections to see T&C, especially for the specific conditions governing use on partner airlines)

"Global Upgrade Certificates, available exclusively for Diamond Medallion Members, offer upgrades on both international and domestic flights with Delta, and select flights with KLM, Air France, Virgin Atlantic, Virgin Australia, Korean Air and Aeromexico."

Delta offers Diamond Medallion members the benefit of up to 4 Global Upgrade Certificates (GUCs) per year, which each allow a one-way upgrade to business class/Delta One for one person on any route in the Delta network, as well as a limited number of partner flights under specific restricted circumstances described below. 4 GUCs is enough to upgrade the Diamond Medallion member on 2 round trips or 4 one-way trips, or the Diamond Medallion member plus one companion on 1 round trip or 2 one-way trips.

Choosing upgrades as a choice benefit
  • Upgrades are valid one year from the date of issue, usually the day of or day after they are selected in Choice Benefits -- so best to wait as long as possible to select them unless you have a specific use planned for them
  • All Diamond Medallions also receive a Platinum Medallion choice benefit, even if just renewing existing Diamond status in a year, so DMs could for example select 4 RUCs as their Platinum choice benefit and 4 GUCs as one of their Diamond choice benefit, or 4 RUCs as their Platinum choice benefit and 8 more RUCs as one of their Diamond choice benefits
  • However, it is not possible to select 8 RUCs as one Diamond choice benefit and 4 GUCs as another, nor select 4 GUCs more than once for a single year's Diamond choice benefits -- so the most GUCs anyone can currently earn in a single year is 4
  • You may select your DM benefits at different times, so it is best to select fixed-expiration-date benefits (like gifting status or SkyClub memberships) as soon as possible, but wait until you have a specific use in mind to select upgrades, so that the expiration date is as far into the future as possible. This is especially important if you are waitlisting upgrades for a particular trip, since if the waitlist doesn't clear, a later expiration date will maximize the amount of time you have to try again to use them on a different trip.
  • For status earned based on flying in 2017, upgrades can be selected until the last day that status is valid, January 31, 2019, so they could possibly expire as late as January ~30, 2020 if they are selected as late as possible.
  • Upgrades can be used after you are no longer a Diamond Medallion as long as the upgrades are still valid, though non-DM-line phone agents will be less familiar with them, so they may be harder to use or run a higher risk of being processed incorrectly, so it may be worth booking your GUC flights before your DM status expires if possible.
  • All flights to be upgraded must be flown, not just requested, by the expiration date of the upgrade certificates, though there have been some examples of short extensions offered by phone agents (for example, to the end of the month of the expiration date) as long as the upgrade is able to be confirmed before the certificates expire. In this case it is important to push the agent to make sure the ticket is reissued right away, since it will not be possible to reissue the ticket after the GUC expires. You can tell if the ticket has been reissued because the ticket number on the booking will change from what it was when you originally booked in coach, and the GUC will be marked as "closed" in your wallet on Delta.com.

Finding upgrade space
  • Delta phone agents and the @Delta Twitter account can check for available upgrade space
  • There is no general way to check for available upgrade space online
  • However there is one exception where some flights appear to be able to be checked online: for Delta flights carrying a KLM code -- for example, most flights between the US and Europe -- ExpertFlyer.com (paid membership required) shows KLM upgrade space, and will show upgrade space for those KL-coded, DL-operated flights, which based on anecdotal evidence seems to often (but not always) correspond to upgrade space made available by Delta. This can be a way to check many dates and flights easily, but confirm with Delta that the upgrade space does in fact exist before making firm plans.
  • Upgrade space is not necessarily correlated with award space
  • If upgrade space is not available on your desired flight, you can waitlist, and it is possible the upgrade may clear before departure. If not your name should appear on the upgrade list at the gate. See next section for details.
  • Upgrade space is rarely seen in advance on busy, high-upgrade-demand routes like ATL-JNB and LAX-SYD.

Requesting an upgrade
  • You must call or Tweet at Delta to request an upgrade, they cannot be requested on the website
  • If upgrade space is available, the agent will process the upgrade immediately and you will be able to select business class seats
  • If the upgrade is confirmed in advance, your ticket will be reissued in business class at some point before the flight and you will receive a new itinerary email when this happens; occasionally the ticket does not get reissued and you will not be able to check in, but a quick call to Delta usually fixes this easily
  • Occasionally an email is sent to alert you if a waitlisted upgrade has cleared, but often the best indication is if a segment of your itinerary disappears entirely from Delta.com, which usually means the upgrade has cleared on that segment. Call Delta to have them process it so that it reappears in your itinerary, and you will be able to select business class seats.
  • There have been reports of upgrades coded incorrectly by agents -- unfortunately there is no way to know for sure if your upgrade is coded correctly, and requested upgrades seem to show up a few different ways on Delta.com, sometimes with an "upgrade requested" designation on the flight, and/or with a "phantom" duplicate flight in the seat maps which will not let you select seats
  • If an upgrade has not cleared by check-in time and you do not appear on the upgrade list on the Delta app or Delta.com, call to have an agent correct the upgrade
  • In certain airports where other airlines handle Delta's flights (particularly AMS), it is not officially possible to clear at the gate; KLM does process upgrades at the gate in AMS for certificates waitlisted 24 hours in advance of departure, but this is not an officially guaranteed benefit. To be safe make sure you have your GUC certificate numbers and redemption codes written down in case the KLM agents need this information.
  • If you are connecting, for example flying MCO-ATL-LHR, and upgrade space is not available on ATL-LHR, best practice is to waitlist on the ATL-LHR leg only, so as not to waste a global upgrade on the short MCO-ATL flight, and then add the upgrade request to MCO-ATL when/if ATL-LHR clears; most agents will understand this approach and may even proactively suggest it
  • If you have selected your choice benefits very recently (within the last 24-48 hours), the phone agent may not yet be able to see your upgrade codes, but you can read the codes to the agent from the My Wallet page on Delta.com
  • The priority order of GUCs, RUCs, mileage upgrades, and complimentary upgrades is not 100% clear, but it is known that GUCs and RUCs have higher priority than complimentary upgrades, and that GUCs and RUCs appear to have equal priority. It is listed on Delta.com that GUCs and RUCs clear first by medallion level and then by time of request, which is different from the upgrade priority used for complimentary upgrades (which is also listed on the website)

Other upgrade rules
  • Upgrades are valid on Delta flights on all economy fares except Basic Economy (E)
  • It is possible to request upgrades in one direction of a roundtrip only, for example if you had 4 US-Europe trips planned and only 4 GUCs, you might decide to upgrade the eastbound flights only as they are overnight flights and remain in economy for the westbound flights.
  • On flights operated with a Premium Select cabin, Delta has indicated that it will still be possible to use a GUC to upgrade directly from economy to Premium Select or to Delta One using the same number of GUCs. However, if an upgrade is cleared from economy to Premium Select, the GUC will be considered used, and another GUC would be required to upgrade again to Delta One. The best strategy is probably to waitlist only for Delta One upgrades, and perhaps if the GUC is close to expiring or you don't expect to have another use for it, to add a request for a Premium Select upgrade close to departure if the Delta One upgrade hasn't yet cleared and/or the Delta One seat map looks very full.
  • Upgrades may be used for the SkyMiles member and up to one companion; The companion need not be in the same PNR, but must be traveling on the exact same flight as the GUC holder.
  • Unlike AA and UA upgrades, DL upgrades cannot be gifted to someone whom the SkyMiles member is not traveling with
  • As of January 22, 2018, it is now officially possible to use a certificate for a companion but not for yourself, as long as you are traveling on the same flight as the companion -- for example if you are eligible to buy a business class ticket for business travel and want to bring your spouse by buying an economy ticket and upgrading them. It is not clear if you could upgrade your companion but not yourself. In the past the question has been raised of waiting for a complimentary medallion upgrade for the main member and then using a certificate for the companion, but now that companions for complimentary medallion upgrades are processed at the same priority as the main member, this is no longer a likely concern.

Using upgrades on KLM

Dedicated thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delt...grade-klm.html
  • "For travel on KLM-operated, Delta-marketed flights this certificate may be used to upgrade on published fares booked in Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X or V class and all fare classes upgrade into Z class. For travel on KLM-operated flights marketed by KLM, fares booked in Y, B, M, K, H, L, Q, T, N, R, or V class are eligible to upgrade into Z class. For travel on KLM-operated flights marketed by AF, this certificate may be used to upgrade on published fares booked in Y, B, M, K, H, L, Q, T, N, R, or V class into Z class. "
  • NOTE: some of the combinations above are only (relatively) recently eligible for GUCs. Phone agents may not be familiar with the new rules, and may need to be gently pointed in the direction of the DL T&C on their own website.
  • In the course of processing the upgrade of a Delta-marketed, KLM-operated flight, Delta reissues the KLM flights on KLM flight numbers when they issue the upgrade, but the flights must be bought on DL flight numbers initially (unless buying expensive Y, B, or M fares with KLM)
  • It is not possible to waitlist for upgrade on KLM flights, nor to go to the airport upgrade list, so space must be available in advance in order for the upgrade to clear. Many agents will offer to put you on the waitlist, but putting you on the upgrade waitlist for a KLM flight will simply never clear so you're better off monitoring it yourself (see next bullets).
  • KLM upgrade space can be checked on ExpertFlyer.com (requires a paid membership). ExpertFlyer also allows users to set alerts for particular fare classes becoming available, which could be useful in lieu of being able to waitlist -- you can set an ExpertFlyer alert for "Z" availability and then call Delta to grab the upgrade if you receive an ExpertFlyer alert that it becomes available.
  • KLM upgrade space on a single segment is different if you search that segment alone vs. if you search a connecting itinerary involving that segment. So if you are looking for KLM upgrades ORD-AMS-JNB, you need to search ORD-JNB in ExpertFlyer to see the true availability; even if there is space on ORD-AMS and AMS-JNB, if it Z space doesn't show up for ORD-JNB you won't be able to upgrade. Unfortunately this means that ExpertFlyer availability alerts, which can only be set on a segment-by-segment basis, are not useful for monitoring KLM upgrade availability on connecting flights.
  • In some cases, adding a DL domestic connecting flight can change KLM upgrade availability. For example ATL-AMS on KLM may show availability but MCO-ATL-AMS may not. Example. Unfortunately some more complex routings, such as forcing an extra connection to find KLM upgrade space (flying JFK-ORD-AMS-CPT instead of JFK-AMS-CPT), do not show up on ExpertFlyer so you are at the mercy of hopefully finding Delta agents who know what they're doing.
  • Bookings with KLM ticket numbers (starting in 074) can be upgraded using the same rules as bookings with Delta ticket numbers (starting in 006). Delta-operated, KLM-coded flights can be upgraded under the same rules as any other KLM-coded flight. Delta-coded, Delta-operated flights booked on a KLM ticket number can be upgraded the same as if they were booked on a Delta ticket number, so in any fare class other than E.
  • There have been numerous challenges with KLM upgrades, so be careful, be persistent, and make sure you request the upgrade within the no-risk cancellation window of the ticket so you can cancel if it doesn't work as expected.
  • More KLM upgrade reading: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6

Using upgrades on Virgin Atlantic

3-year-old thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles/1779666-guc-now-able-used-virgin-atlantic-vs.html
related, upgrading VS with SkyMiles (also requires G class, so the info may be useful too?): https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles/1857464-definitive-thread-use-sky-miles-upgrade-vs.html
  • "Valid on Delta-marketed (DL flight number), Virgin Atlantic-operated flights for use globally on published fares booked in W, Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X or V class to G class (Upper Class). " Upgrading on Virgin-marketed (VS flight number) flights using GUCs is not possible.
  • Global Upgrades on Virgin Atlantic flights must be confirmed 24 hours prior to departure.
  • Global Upgrade Certificates may not be used to waitlist for a Virgin Atlantic-operated flight. Many agents will offer to put you on the waitlist, but putting you on the upgrade waitlist for a Virgin Atlantic flight will simply never clear so you're better off monitoring it yourself (see next bullets).
  • DL flight numbers are not available for most Virgin Atlantic flights to regions other than the US (for example LHR-JNB), so it is not possible to use GUCs on those flights.
  • Virgin Atlantic upgrade space appears to use the same availability as awards, so if a business class award is available for a Virgin Atlantic flight on Delta.com, it should be available for an upgrade (as long as that flight is booked on a DL flight number). If an award is not available, an upgrade is probably not available -- but if you notice any exceptions to this rule please share in the thread. You can also monitor G space using ExpertFlyer (see KLM section above).
  • Because G is the same code as Virgin Atlantic uses for award tickets, after you fly the tickets will register with Delta as having been awards and will not earn any miles. Watch your mileage earning carefully and you will likely have to call Delta and explain that it wasn't an award ticket but an upgrade from a paid coach ticket, and they will correct the mileage earning to be equivalent to what you would have earned on your original coach ticket.

Using upgrades on Virgin Australia

Valid on Delta-marketed, Virgin Australia-operated flights on published fares booked in Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U class to Virgin Australia’s Business Class.

Using upgrades on Air France

Dedicated thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delt...20-onward.html

"For travel on Air France-operated flights marketed by Air France and booked in Y, B, M, K, H, L, Q, T, N, R, or V class, customers can upgrade into A class (Premium Economy) or Z class (Business Class). For Air France-operated flights marketed by KLM, customers with a published fare booked in Y, B, M, K, H, L, Q, T, N, R, or V class can upgrade into Z class (Business Class). For Air France-operated flights marketed by Delta, customers with a published fare booked in Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X or V class can upgrade into A class (Premium Economy) or Z class (Business Class). In addition, customers traveling on an Air France-marketed and operated flight and booked in W, S or A class as well as customers traveling on an Air France-operated, Delta-marketed flight and booked in P, A, or G class can upgrade to Z class (Business Class)"

NOTE: GUC usage on AF used to be restricted to high fare classes only. Phone agents may not be familiar with the new rules, and may need to be gently pointed in the direction of the DL T&C on their own website.

Using upgrades on Korean (restricted to certain fare classes only)

Dedicated thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delt...ed-thread.html

"Valid on Delta-marketed, Korean Air-operated flights for use globally on Delta's published fares booked in Y or B class to Korean Air's Z class, or booked in M class to Korean Air's O class."

GUC usage on Korean requires the purchase of high fare classes, which may mean that it is cheaper to buy a discounted business class ticket than to buy an eligible coach fare and try to upgrade. Uniquely, it is possible to use GUCs to upgrade from business to first on Korean, but only if you buy the most expensive business class fares.

Using upgrades on Aeromexico

"For travel on Aeromexico operated, Delta marketed flights this certificate may be used to upgrade on Delta`s published fares booked in W, Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X or V class and all fare classes upgrade into Aeromexico`s O class."




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Old Jun 4, 2019, 9:57 pm
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Originally Posted by CGNC
If the GUC weren't expiring the day after, I agree
Ouch. That's a rough one
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Old Jun 18, 2019, 1:45 pm
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Smooth Sailing Using GUC on VS SEA<> LHR 10/25-10/30

My last two 2018 GUC's were expiring on 11/1 & I wanted to go to London at end of October so it was time to book. I like the route via SEA because I have to go to West Coast often for work so if that's the case, I can catch the flight at end or before work trip. And if no work trips then I can just take the direct MKE<>SEA flight which has a cheap fare (AS in fare war) and high UG potential. I don't have an Expert Flyer account nor am I an expert at determining fare bucket availability (G in this case). So I used the award tool at DL to find the cheapest VS redemption dates for D1/UC (it was 172K points for this combo and showed up as G) and then booked paid ticket for that itinerary in Economy (X fare). I called the Diamond line and was upgraded by a FANTASTIC agent in all of about 10 minutes. It's never gone this smoothly. I'm super partial to VS UC and the Club House in LHR, so pretty excited about this. I believe I will probably cross over to MM on this flight so know that I won't get any recognition but I'd rather cross over to MM on VS than DL The coach fare was $800 and they didn't require me to pay a premium cabin surcharge. I don't even want to know if I'll be responsible for that later.

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Old Jun 18, 2019, 2:00 pm
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Originally Posted by bergamini
My last two 2018 GUC's were expiring on 11/1 & I wanted to go to London at end of October so it was time to book. I like the route via SEA because I have to go to West Coast often for work so if that's the case, I can catch the flight at end or before work trip. And if no work trips then I can just take the direct MKE<>SEA flight which has a cheap fare (AS in fare war) and high UG potential. I don't have an Expert Flyer account nor am I an expert at determining award availability. So I used the award tool at DL to find the cheapest VS redemption dates for D1/UC (it was 172K points for this combo) and then booked it in Economy. I called the Diamond line and was upgraded by a FANTASTIC agent in all of about 10 minutes. It's never gone this smoothly. I'm super partial to VS UC and the Club House in LHR, so pretty excited about this. I believe I will probably cross over to MM on this flight so know that I won't get any recognition but I'd rather cross over to MM on VS than DL The coach fare was $800 and they didn't require me to pay a premium cabin surcharge. I don't even want to know if I'll be responsible for that later.
Congrats on your success with the upgrades. You may want to delete that picture though in case it may show too much potentially personally identifiable info, up to you...

FWIW, because VS upgrades book into G, which is also an award ticket booking class, you won't get any mileage credit for this flight at all automatically and will have to follow up with Delta to manually correct that to get credit for the economy ticket you originally booked. But, if you want to try to roll over to MM on a DL flight, you could potentially keep flying after this trip until you hit MM and then later call in to DL to correct this trip. (That assumes you could hit MM shortly thereafter; if you weren't going to hit MM for months later, it probably isn't worth the risk of leaving this unresolved for that long.)
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Old Jun 18, 2019, 2:12 pm
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Originally Posted by bgriff
Congrats on your success with the upgrades. You may want to delete that picture though in case it may show too much potentially personally identifiable info, up to you...

FWIW, because VS upgrades book into G, which is also an award ticket booking class, you won't get any mileage credit for this flight at all automatically and will have to follow up with Delta to manually correct that to get credit for the economy ticket you originally booked. But, if you want to try to roll over to MM on a DL flight, you could potentially keep flying after this trip until you hit MM and then later call in to DL to correct this trip. (That assumes you could hit MM shortly thereafter; if you weren't going to hit MM for months later, it probably isn't worth the risk of leaving this unresolved for that long.)
Agree with all of this.

I will add that the most efficient way I've found to solve the VS G crediting issue (also occurs when upgrading with DL RDM) is to use the "Missing Miles Request" link/form (or whatever it's called) on DL.com. IIRC it's at the top right when in the detailed view of your miles activity.

Usually I wait until the VS flight posts as ineligible for credit, then use that link and fill out the form with my original (pre-upgrade) ticket #. Get an email response and correct miles posted within 3-4 days usually.
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Old Jun 18, 2019, 2:24 pm
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Originally Posted by bgriff
Congrats on your success with the upgrades. You may want to delete that picture though in case it may show too much potentially personally identifiable info, up to you...

FWIW, because VS upgrades book into G, which is also an award ticket booking class, you won't get any mileage credit for this flight at all automatically and will have to follow up with Delta to manually correct that to get credit for the economy ticket you originally booked. But, if you want to try to roll over to MM on a DL flight, you could potentially keep flying after this trip until you hit MM and then later call in to DL to correct this trip. (That assumes you could hit MM shortly thereafter; if you weren't going to hit MM for months later, it probably isn't worth the risk of leaving this unresolved for that long.)
I'm fine with the picture, nothing too identifiable.

I thought Delta G is Premium Select? It's Delta paper. So while I get VS G is an award ticket, Delta G on a paid ticket should at least post as the underlying X fare I bought, right? With that said I'm fine advocating for the miles to post properly.
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Old Jun 18, 2019, 2:27 pm
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Originally Posted by gooselee
Agree with all of this.

I will add that the most efficient way I've found to solve the VS G crediting issue (also occurs when upgrading with DL RDM) is to use the "Missing Miles Request" link/form (or whatever it's called) on DL.com. IIRC it's at the top right when in the detailed view of your miles activity.

Usually I wait until the VS flight posts as ineligible for credit, then use that link and fill out the form with my original (pre-upgrade) ticket #. Get an email response and correct miles posted within 3-4 days usually.
Thanks. I had an issue with a DL G posting last year with the 150% MQM (LAX<>PVG) and calling in was a pain. But I've found that using the form takes longer than 3-4 days with me, but I don't mind waiting. I'll save all my paperwork.
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Old Jun 18, 2019, 3:37 pm
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Originally Posted by bergamini
I'm fine with the picture, nothing too identifiable.

I thought Delta G is Premium Select? It's Delta paper. So while I get VS G is an award ticket, Delta G on a paid ticket should at least post as the underlying X fare I bought, right? With that said I'm fine advocating for the miles to post properly.
Correct that DL G is Premium Select.

However, when you upgrade on VS metal, you get reticketed into VS G (thus the VS flight numbers that now show on your itin). While it's still on 006 stock, your new ticket is VS marketed and that's what flows through to the mileage systems (thus causing the crediting error).

Definitely save original receipts and your BPs, but I do think most of the SkyMiles people are used to dealing with this error now, and it's not too hard to track back to the paid ticket.
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Old Jun 18, 2019, 4:31 pm
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Noticed earlier today that Delta was willing to sell (main cabin) Germany - USA for el cheapo prices.
A quick check showed DUS- MCO, LAX, SFO, TPA, MSY, CAN and MEX all for around €380EUR. Heck usually the surcharges for an D1 award ticket are more.

Called, booked & upgraded DUS-ATL-DFW & DFW-MSP-AMS-DUS in V for €383.16 EUR. TY Delta
Only to clear that last AMS-DUS KLM cityhopper operated, DL marketed leg was eeeeuh...how to describe it..somewhat time consuming
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Old Jun 18, 2019, 5:50 pm
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Jfk to Athens clearer after booking but weeks before 06/09 flight.

Jfk to Barcelona cleared off waitlist at the gate, but only applied 2 days before flight. (PM friend)
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Old Jun 18, 2019, 5:51 pm
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Jfk to Dakar Senegal both legs cleared at booking for early may flights.
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Old Jun 21, 2019, 11:42 am
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Originally Posted by bergamini
So I used the award tool at DL to find the cheapest VS redemption dates for D1/UC (it was 172K points for this combo) and then booked it in Economy. I called the Diamond line and was upgraded by a FANTASTIC agent in all of about 10 minutes. It's never gone this smoothly.
Congrats !
I've been using GUCs ever since the implementation, but for some reason I was always under the impression that these could only be used on revenue tickets.
I learned something valuable - thank you.
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Old Jun 21, 2019, 11:44 am
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Originally Posted by Travelomania
Congrats !
I've been using GUCs ever since the implementation, but for some reason I was always under the impression that these could only be used on revenue tickets.
I learned something valuable - thank you.
GUCs are only valid on revenue tickets, not award tickets. I was confused when I read the 172K comment in the earlier post as well, but I believe what that poster meant was, for VS upgrades you can find availability by looking for award tickets since they both use the G fare bucket. So they looked for a cheap business class award, and then booked a cash economy ticket to be upgraded.
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Old Jun 21, 2019, 5:47 pm
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Originally Posted by bergamini
I'm fine with the picture, nothing too identifiable.

I thought Delta G is Premium Select? It's Delta paper. So while I get VS G is an award ticket, Delta G on a paid ticket should at least post as the underlying X fare I bought, right? With that said I'm fine advocating for the miles to post properly.
Credit is based on the flight number, not the ticket stock—VS G credits as ineligible, DL G as PS, but it has nothing to do with whether it's a 006 ticket or not.
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Old Jun 22, 2019, 12:15 pm
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Originally Posted by bgriff
GUCs are only valid on revenue tickets, not award tickets. I was confused when I read the 172K comment in the earlier post as well, but I believe what that poster meant was, for VS upgrades you can find availability by looking for award tickets since they both use the G fare bucket. So they looked for a cheap business class award, and then booked a cash economy ticket to be upgraded.
Yes, after reading the OP's post a few times, it became clearer that this must have been the intended rationale.
Thank you for clarifying - it's much appreciated.
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Old Jun 23, 2019, 9:38 pm
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: MAD/LAX/MNL/PIT
Programs: DL DM, PR, TG, UA, CX (Asia Miles), BT, AY, AA
Posts: 906
I can't seem to find a thread similar to this for RUCs, so I should note that I got upgraded on all my segments for LAX-MEM-ATL-NAS using one. Still waiting on the coveted D1 upgrade for JFK-LAX, although NAS-JFK is likely not happening as the First cabin is full.

That said, I'm excited to finally get my GUCs once I hit DM this July! I wonder how successful though are upgrades ex-LAX. Currently I'm thinking of using one for CPT-AMS-ATL-LAX in October and one for LAX-LHR on VS in November.
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