Restrooms no longer separated by cabin?
Jan 20, 2014, 1:16 pm
#31
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Well they enforce it pretty hard. I was on an upgrade on a 757 and the F lav was occupied and there was no body in the forward Y lav and nobody heading toward it so I snuck back. The FA stopped me, saying between clenched teeth "If you wanted to use an economy class lavatory you should have bought an economy class ticket!"
Fortunately, it was a gate upgrade and I had my original boarding pass to show that I had in fact bought an economy class ticket so she let me proceed.
Fortunately, it was a gate upgrade and I had my original boarding pass to show that I had in fact bought an economy class ticket so she let me proceed.
Jan 20, 2014, 2:15 pm
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I don't know about the horror stories here, but i would never wear socks into a public bathroom (apparently men don't care if it goes in bowl or on floor??)
Jan 20, 2014, 2:17 pm
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Some FAs try to keep Y people out of the F lav more than others. I really don't care as long as they don't bump me or my seat.
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Jan 20, 2014, 2:49 pm
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Jan 21, 2014, 7:21 am
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It must just depend on the particular FAs -- I was on 4 FC segments this past weekend and not one had the announcement about using the lavatory in your cabin. Many flights I've been on lately (esp on A319/320) they haven't bothered to draw the curtain. Come to think of it, I haven't even seen them turn a coach passenger away from the FC lav in a long time.
Jan 21, 2014, 7:36 am
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I notice that for a lot of people in general, but on this site in particular, when they don't like a rule or action, they claim that it is either not a federal law when the rule is enforced with action, or that it is a federal law when the rule is not enforced with action. Realistically and practically, federal law should only establish minimum safety requirements and at most recommend best practices with regard to safety. I personally thing that lavatories should be like exits: "Please take note of the location of the lavatories, keeping in mind the closest lavatory may be behind you."
Jan 21, 2014, 7:59 am
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I often fly in the bulkhead or economy comfort. I tend to respect the rules and walk all the way to the back of the plane to use the restroom when necessary. Occasionally I will "sneak" up to the first class lav when beverage service is occuring, but generally I will walk back. However I've never been told to go to the back when I have walked up to the F lav.
Jan 21, 2014, 8:30 am
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On some DL aircraft, there's a ratio of one bathroom per 65 passengers; if one person takes their time it can get real ugly.
Jan 21, 2014, 8:48 am
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Until about 2 years ago, I asked FAs if I was allowed to go into Y and they always told me that Y pax are not allowed in Biz but Biz pax are allowed in Y.
Finally, I gave up asking and just do it -- and never once has an FA objected.
Jan 21, 2014, 10:48 am
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I generally fly into the States two or three times each year and for the past 5 years or so have only sat in Biz Elite. As my flights are long (about 12 hours), and my doctor has told me I must walk around every few hours to avoid DVT, I try two or three times during the flight to go through the entire plane.
Until about 2 years ago, I asked FAs if I was allowed to go into Y and they always told me that Y pax are not allowed in Biz but Biz pax are allowed in Y.
Finally, I gave up asking and just do it -- and never once has an FA objected.
Until about 2 years ago, I asked FAs if I was allowed to go into Y and they always told me that Y pax are not allowed in Biz but Biz pax are allowed in Y.
Finally, I gave up asking and just do it -- and never once has an FA objected.
Jan 21, 2014, 2:38 pm
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Well they enforce it pretty hard. I was on an upgrade on a 757 and the F lav was occupied and there was no body in the forward Y lav and nobody heading toward it so I snuck back. The FA stopped me, saying between clenched teeth "If you wanted to use an economy class lavatory you should have bought an economy class ticket!"
Fortunately, it was a gate upgrade and I had my original boarding pass to show that I had in fact bought an economy class ticket so she let me proceed.
Fortunately, it was a gate upgrade and I had my original boarding pass to show that I had in fact bought an economy class ticket so she let me proceed.
For me, I rarely see a line in the FC section from people in Y. Normally when their aisle is blocked, I've seen the FA tell them to wait behind the curtain and they just come up one at a time. (of course YMMV)