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Old Apr 16, 09, 11:12 am
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Skyclub access question

I'm flying to San Juan, PR in November on a business class (I fare) ticket. The booking class shows business and according to SC access rules, business elite customers can gain access to the club. However, when I pull up Delta's BE routes, SJU is not listed as a BE destination. Will I be granted access to the club on this "I" fare, business class ticket?

PS. If I can gain access, are there any affiliated clubs in SJU?
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Old Apr 16, 09, 11:18 am
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Too bad your CO PC membership won't be any help in November. My interpretation is that you would as your ticket would fall under "SkyTeam Premium Cabin". While it is a Business Cabin and not BusinessElite, it is still a premium cabin.

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Old Apr 16, 09, 11:21 am
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Originally Posted by AndyTLe View Post
Too bad your CO PC membership won't be any help in November. My interpretation is that you would as your ticket would fall under "SkyTeam Premium Cabin". While it is a Business Cabin and not BusinessElite, it is still a premium cabin.



http://www.delta.com/traveling_check...ions/index.jsp
However, to your point, there are no Sky Team lounges in PR. DL closed the CR last year.
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Old Apr 16, 09, 11:39 am
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Originally Posted by AndyTLe View Post
Too bad your CO PC membership won't be any help in November. My interpretation is that you would as your ticket would fall under "SkyTeam Premium Cabin". While it is a Business Cabin and not BusinessElite, it is still a premium cabin.



http://www.delta.com/traveling_check...ions/index.jsp
What exactly is a "premium cabin" on DL. If they don't consider SJU as a BE destination, then is it just F class? Not according to the ticket, it clearly say business class, but it's a 737 aircraft to SJU. Sure hope there is no problem getting in. You're right, too bad that CO PC card won't help me in November.
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Old Apr 16, 09, 11:41 am
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Generally speaking, if you're in the front cabin of a two-class aircraft, you're in a premium cabin. Delta brands their product differently depending on the route and aircraft.
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Old Apr 16, 09, 11:48 am
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Ok, thanks. I was just wondering if the Caribbean was excluded from this. Ill be in the club next week, maybe I will ask the rep and see what they say.
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Old Apr 16, 09, 12:18 pm
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You shouldn't have any problem with lounge access... on routes like ATL-MEX I've had no problem gaining lounge access, even on upgrades received at the GM/PM window.
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Old Apr 16, 09, 12:20 pm
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San Juan is NOT an INTERNATIONAL DESTINATION!
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Old Apr 16, 09, 12:22 pm
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Originally Posted by IsleOfMan View Post
You shouldn't have any problem with lounge access... on routes like ATL-MEX I've had no problem gaining lounge access, even on upgrades received at the GM/PM window.
On routes like ATL-MEX you have been flying Business Class internationally

International: Includes travel to/from Europe, Asia, South America, Central America, Africa, Canada, and Mexico (excludes travel to/from the Caribbean).

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Old Apr 16, 09, 12:47 pm
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Originally Posted by cielak View Post
What exactly is a "premium cabin" on DL. If they don't consider SJU as a BE destination, then is it just F class? Not according to the ticket, it clearly say business class, but it's a 737 aircraft to SJU. Sure hope there is no problem getting in. You're right, too bad that CO PC card won't help me in November.
Business Class and Business Elite are two very different products. Business Class generally means Domestic First Seats. Business Elite is solely for DL INT Markets with BE Seats and Service.
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Old Apr 16, 09, 12:55 pm
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I think the OP alluded to "premium cabin". If that is the case, all the classes you mentioned count.
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Old Apr 16, 09, 12:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Denolloyd View Post
Business Class and Business Elite are two very different products. Business Class generally means Domestic First Seats. Business Elite is solely for DL INT Markets with BE Seats and Service.
So you're saying no club access for me traveling to SJU on a "business class" fare?
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Old Apr 16, 09, 1:03 pm
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Originally Posted by WBurcham View Post
On routes like ATL-MEX you have been flying Business Class internationally

International: Includes travel to/from Europe, Asia, South America, Central America, Africa, Canada, and Mexico (excludes travel to/from the Caribbean).
Interesting...I knew it included Mexico, but didnt know Caribbean routes were excluded. Am doing Curacao...guess Ill just have to use the 'ole Priority Pass.

When I was returning from Panama City, Panama the other day, the CRC/SkyClub agent said Central America doesnt count, but he would make an exception and let me in. I knew he was wrong and tried to correct him. He was adamant, I just shrugged and went inside. This guy has been there for awhile, and he's given me trouble before on other issues where I knew he was wrong. I try to avoid him as he's quite misinformed (he's usually in the B-25 club although they move around).
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Old Apr 16, 09, 1:44 pm
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Plan B

Ok, here is a little twist. I'm traveling from SAN-JFK-SJU in "business class". Since it's considered a trans-con F class (or business) I can access the club in SAN because of the trans-con F class SC access rule.
Question is this, once I get to JFK, can I use the club while I wait for the SJU flight? This is assuming they don't give me access based on my business class ticket going to SJU.

(IMO, if they aren't considering Caribbean destinations for club access while in biz class and they have no BE product in that market, why not just call it First class and be done with it?)
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Old Apr 16, 09, 4:18 pm
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Originally Posted by cielak View Post
Ok, here is a little twist. I'm traveling from SAN-JFK-SJU in "business class". Since it's considered a trans-con F class (or business) I can access the club in SAN because of the trans-con F class SC access rule.
Question is this, once I get to JFK, can I use the club while I wait for the SJU flight? This is assuming they don't give me access based on my business class ticket going to SJU.
Yes, the transcon SAN-JFK leg up front will give you access to the lounge in JFK.

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(IMO, if they aren't considering Caribbean destinations for club access while in biz class and they have no BE product in that market, why not just call it First class and be done with it?)
The "Business" vs. "BusinessElite" terminology does seem to generate all kinds of confusion, but DL hasn't changed it yet, so I wouldn't hold my breath.
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