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TTT Apr 24, 2013 7:41 pm


Originally Posted by quinnpm (Post 20648005)
http://news.yahoo.com/us-court-sets-...212941406.html

Case remains pending but there's not going to be any immediate solution - Hope/Pray/Beg for a solution outside of the court system before then.

Thanks for the link. Bummer - I doubt a resolution would happen until after the summer travel rush if one isn't found outside of the courts.

rylan Apr 24, 2013 8:19 pm

Glad I don't have any trips scheduled for a few weeks. Talk about a mess.

gzl16 Apr 24, 2013 9:40 pm


Originally Posted by jiburi (Post 20648109)
Not sounding good. I think my crazy award itinerary is going to be hit with delay or be stranded.....

SEA-PDX Q400 (40 minute connection)
PDX-DCA 738 (4 hour cnx but need to claim and check bag, DCA to IAD)
IAD-CDG 777 (2 hour connection)
CDG-LHR

Jiburi

I'm concerned about my crazy award routing too. It's on a Saturday, so that may hopefully help.

TLV-AMS
AMS-MSP
MSP-ATL (50 min connection)
ATL-CLT

StayingHomeIsBetter Apr 24, 2013 10:48 pm

Time for a little humor...
 
First of all, and most importantly, this is not a shot at air traffic controllers... they are as much victims of this situation as we are.

But, I stumbled on this video clip this evening.

For any Bob Newhart fans out there...

Air traffic control

iamhereandthere Apr 24, 2013 11:01 pm


Originally Posted by stevekstevek (Post 20648185)
I'm gonna do two questionable things here -- self-reply and reference somethign I read elsewhere.

Apparently, the JFK delays are so bad because there's some problems with ILS for the preferred runway configuration on 22L. The "staffing" may have something to do with why the ILS is not working (maybe the guy who needs to fix it is off today), but apparently when you're using 13L, you can only handle 28 flights/hour: (see http://www.fly.faa.gov/Information/e...k/jfk_aar1.htm), as opposed to 40 flights/hr if you can use 22L/R..

My next two trips are NYC-WAS -- and those seem to be on a 50% cancellation pace the past couple of days.. So I'm hoping all this staffing stuff gets worked out soon.

Me too. Hoping to switch to a JFK connection for an earlier flight but if things aren't looking up Thursday I might just stick with my later flight via MSP...then again I only have a 30 min connection in MSP...last flight of the day on both segments.

Deadtail Apr 25, 2013 12:22 am


Originally Posted by Alpha Golf (Post 20646472)
Lift the sequestration and fund the government adequately. I think that's clear.

As everyone knows Obama agreed to it only because the country was being held hostage over the debt ceiling, obviously not because he wanted it to take effect or thought that it would.

And what Republicans have actually offered was to make up the cuts in defense with even deeper cuts in non-defense programs. It was in their "spending reduction act of 2012"

Once again -- if you don't like it tell your representatives to fund the governmet adequately. You can't get blood from stones.

At this point I can only recommend a junior college level civics course. There you will learn that laws can not simply be lifted, no matter how strong the musings of President Obama internet fanbois.

jalves Apr 25, 2013 5:24 am

OK, I'm confused
 
I'm confused as to why the FAA or the airlines would ascribe a staffing related delay to weather or mechanical issues as many of the posts on this thread indicate is happening. :confused:

It seems to me that the government would want people to know how much of the delay is due to staffing. It reinforces their position that there isn't any significant "pork" in their budget.

Not trying to judge the political reality of cuts, just wondering why they might not be described correctly.

DL2SXM Apr 25, 2013 5:39 am

This thread lately is much like the oil markets; speculation driven.

The last several pages are a bunch of what ifs and why doesnt the FAA do this....

it seems that as long as the wx is good, then delays are minimal.

DMPM Apr 25, 2013 6:06 am


Originally Posted by DL2SXM (Post 20649932)
This thread lately is much like the oil markets; speculation driven.

The last several pages are a bunch of what ifs and why doesnt the FAA do this....

it seems that as long as the wx is good, then delays are minimal.

After reading this article, I would disagree with this...

http://www.aopa.org/advocacy/article...?CMP=News:S1RM

rylan Apr 25, 2013 6:49 am

Maybe we'll get full disclosure of the FAA budget and see where the pork is so that can be cut instead of slashing front line controllers.

tmontemb Apr 25, 2013 7:33 am

I have a transatlantic in a week and a half. Only have 1 hr and 5 min layover between domestic and international leg at DTW. I'm assuming there is a miniscule chance I should plan on making that DTW-AMS flight.

DL2SXM Apr 25, 2013 7:45 am


Originally Posted by DMPM (Post 20650023)
After reading this article, I would disagree with this...

http://www.aopa.org/advocacy/article...?CMP=News:S1RM

i read it. Its an article. However, where are the complaints on FT about the so called massively delayed flights we are supposed to be dealing with.

rylan Apr 25, 2013 8:56 am

Wow JFK doesn't say wind today... actually says delays due to other/staffing. LGA and EWR both still say wind though.

StayingHomeIsBetter Apr 25, 2013 9:04 am


Originally Posted by DL2SXM (Post 20650398)
i read it. Its an article. However, where are the complaints on FT about the so called massively delayed flights we are supposed to be dealing with.

Some numerical perspective...

Based on DOT data, US airlines fly over 500,000 flights per month, say 17000 per day. Not uncommon to have 10 to 20% of the flights not arrive on-time, even without the furlough.

The article cites 1000 to 1200 flights per day (2 day sample) delayed by furlough. 6 to 7 % of the flights on a given day attributed to one specific cause.

But, those flights were predominately at the three NYC area airports, LAX and ORD, during generally good weather. The effect of the furlough during really bad weather remains to be seen.

Also, the article speaks about delays... what about cancellations, including preemptive cancellations? One out of eight DL flights cancelled at LGA the other day is a pretty heavy hit.

Bottom line, too few data point to plot a line through so far.

MSP-MN Apr 25, 2013 9:21 am

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