gooselee

LOL ^ ^

Bicostal

My intent was to highlight that the integrity of the process is jeopordized by the blatant misuse by some. How anyone can justify or rationalize this behavior of early boarding due to a disability yet being the first one up out of their seat upon arrival is beyond me. If you need extra time - great - but what makes you some darned special that your extra time becomes my delay?

You DO have "special" rights due to your disability and these are detailed in the ACAA and various DOT / FAA FARs. What these rules don't require is any documentation that in fact you have a disability because it is deemed politically incorrect to make that inquiry. As such - pre-board access is self-selected.

But when you get where you are going all of a sudden you don't need extra time and you can stand a long time in the aisle of the plane? Miracles!


And that said - I have every expectation that the courtesy extended to allow you to pre-board because you need more time should be reciprocated by you staying seated upon arrival and allowing the ablebodied the opportunity to quickly exit. I'm sure you extend this courtesy, but the gamers don't.

Dovster

It's not just pre-board. I recently flew ATL-JFK and when they called for FC at least 20 people boarded before me -- yet the plane only had 12 FC seats, and I was not the last to fill one.

Often1

+1 - MYOB is the first rule of this. I can't stand snoopy sniffers who are wanna be GA's and tell others what they think the rules are (even if they're right).

puddinhead

Snoopy Sniffer - is that some sort of perversion with a Charles Schulz character?

Bicostal

Irony at its optimum.

BusTrav8yrs

That's fine, But when it gets extreme I will say something. The one time in ATL when the couple in their 40's did it with their shopping bags in tow I just chuckled. (They ran to the gate when it was called and where sat in bulkhead). But when it was half the plane trying to board on a LGA-STT flight I said something, it was actually chaotic, lots of pushing and shoving, I had 3 PAX's in their 20's and very fit pushing us aside to get in there. They had lots of carry-on and I saw a BP that said row 34, Zone 4.

Calipso

I don't text and drive. The only of my phone is to change music on it through auxiliary input.

You'll have to excuse me if I have ZERO simpathy for people who are faking.

Mental disablity eh? Love your insults. Keep the wit coming. I'm sure your self entitlement will continue to flow as well.

I beg to differ. The first class customer (I'm business class at best sometimes) is far more important to the company than someone who rushes through with multiple children and family members in tow. The first class customers (especially ones who pays full fare) are what keeps my fares lower and they should be treated specially. They pay for the experience and they should get it. Ma and Pa Kettle who popped out a few youngin's aren't any more important than the rest of the people boarding the plane.

Pre-boarding drinks is a big thing for first class flyers. Shoving a family of eight ahead of them is an insult and just shows an obvious sense entitlement by families. Try flying Southwest and deal with preboarders.

OHDL1

The actual announcement mentions..."those traveling with infants, car seats or strollers..." If you have car seat or stroller....that could be, of course, used by a child older than 2. Sometimes...alot older.

BusTrav8yrs

Depends on the GA. Some say with strollers, some say with a child under the age of 2. It is not consistent.

mother-

First, GFYS Buddy, errr I mean MYOB. (Sorry, the NYer came out for a second!)

Second, I only said anything initially because they were stressing out and I've often had that same look on my face coming from the SkyFrathouse and approaching the gate not knowing just how badly that last funnel of Bud screwed me on boarding order.

I didn't challenge why she was rushing towards the carpet, I also didn't assume she was preboarding because of an older kid- I actually just tried to be very un-NY like and show some kindness to a stranger. When she explained her rush was intentional and why, then yes, I corrected her.

I actually got quite a few attaboys as people were settling in to the J cabin, so the other intrusive asshats like me obviously found my actions agreeable.

Often1

FA / GA for a day.

JBJ2435

I assure you that I am not the cause of your delay. You are likely sitting in front of me, I deplane when allowed by row/seat and if you happen to be behind me on the jetway, you can easily pass me as I stay to one side to allow others to pass. :-:

Are you suggesting that people actually make up diseases in order to board early? If so, for what possible reason? I used to like to board dead last as I find the seats (even in FC) uncomfortable and who needs to be sitting on a plane longer than necessary?

You still don't understand the disability, but that's OK, I don't expect people to understand. No, I can't stand a long time in the aisle of the plane either. No miracles here, I sit, I stand depending on how long. Walking is actually easier than standing in one spot.

If I need a wheelchair to exit the plane, I have to sit in my seat until everyone else has exited. However, I don't need a wheelchair to get on or off the plane, so I will exit when allowed. If I brought my wheelchair (like I did this past weekend), then I do stay seated as I know I have to wait for it to be brought up to the jetway.

I don't understand "gamers", what do they gain by all this nonsense?

Melmgmel

But when you get where you are going all of a sudden you don't need extra time and you can stand a long time in the aisle of the plane? Miracles!



Shame on you for this comment. Have you ever dealt with someone who has MS?

This thread has gone past it's worthiness. It's now getting to be cruel.

Melanie

puddinhead

The gamers are making it difficult for the people with genuine disabilities.
There was a post on the WN board about someone (Business select with an A1 boarding card) who was unhappy because a pre-boarder and his wife were sitting in both exit rows and saving the 4 seats for someone else. If one is pre-boarding they can't sit in the exit row (WN rules) but the FA ignored it all. Fair? No. But if many behave badly then bad behavior will become the norm.

Most people don't like schemers and if no one calls them on it they will continue to take advantage of everyone else - especially those who are genuinely disabled.And if one says nothing then they are giving the schemer tacit approval for their bad behavior.

Some believe that no one should say something to another. But I'll be very vocal and even become agressive if I see a large male abusing (physicially) a smaller female or anyone abusing a child. It is wrong and I won't pretend it isn't happening. Bad behavior is just a lesser form of this.