Delta Prefered seats out of control
#91
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I was in "F" with a "companion animal" that kept sitting on my foot for a woman with "anxiety". Little regard for my real condition of dog allergies. She didn't seem anxious at all and after a glass or two of vino told me it was how she got away with carrying her animal onboard and letting it out of her cage.
#92
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Yes, or the family reserves seats together at the very back of the plane, or they wait and hope that the GA will give them some of the seats reserved for airport control together. It's largely a matter of priorities, but they cannot realistically expect to grab the best seats together for free, nor should they expect others who have earned or paid for prime seats to be willing to swap for a middle seat in the rear of the aircraft.
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist:18723592
Maybe airlines are just selecting the type of customer they prefer, with carriers like Southwest appealing to families and legacy carriers focusing more on business travel. (It's a different route network and a different business model.) That would work for me.
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I really don't understand what's so hard to get here. Some pax want to sit together, and that's fine. Realize that you are making that choice, and you'll have to give something up to get what you want, whether it's money, favorable location, or (in the WN example earlier) time to check in early.
The story earlier about asking the GA for seats together and getting stuck next to the lav is pure whining. Of course those seats are loud and smelly, that's probably why they were the easiest to find open or to bump people out of to accommodate the request. The GA fulfilled the request using the resources available to him or her.
I'd love to sit in the cockpit on every flight, but I'm not willing to give up the next 30 years of my life to do so. I am however willing to shell out a few bucks or sit a few rows back to be next to my companions. Making that choice is a part of life.
The story earlier about asking the GA for seats together and getting stuck next to the lav is pure whining. Of course those seats are loud and smelly, that's probably why they were the easiest to find open or to bump people out of to accommodate the request. The GA fulfilled the request using the resources available to him or her.
I'd love to sit in the cockpit on every flight, but I'm not willing to give up the next 30 years of my life to do so. I am however willing to shell out a few bucks or sit a few rows back to be next to my companions. Making that choice is a part of life.
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#95
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I really don't understand what's so hard to get here. Some pax want to sit together, and that's fine. Realize that you are making that choice, and you'll have to give something up to get what you want, whether it's money, favorable location, or (in the WN example earlier) time to check in early.
The story earlier about asking the GA for seats together and getting stuck next to the lav is pure whining. Of course those seats are loud and smelly, that's probably why they were the easiest to find open or to bump people out of to accommodate the request. The GA fulfilled the request using the resources available to him or her.
I'd love to sit in the cockpit on every fight, but I'm not willing to give up the next 30 years of my life to do so. I am however willing to shell out a few bucks or sit a few rows back to be next to my companions. Making that choice is a part of life.
The story earlier about asking the GA for seats together and getting stuck next to the lav is pure whining. Of course those seats are loud and smelly, that's probably why they were the easiest to find open or to bump people out of to accommodate the request. The GA fulfilled the request using the resources available to him or her.
I'd love to sit in the cockpit on every fight, but I'm not willing to give up the next 30 years of my life to do so. I am however willing to shell out a few bucks or sit a few rows back to be next to my companions. Making that choice is a part of life.
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#96
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And that folks, sums it up perfectly! +1000 ^
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You get what you pay for!
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That's all well and good until a schedule change results in an equipment change that reshuffles a cabin that was already fairly full.
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Has anybody argued for single-class, non-differentiated seating, no-seat-reservation flights? Does not Southwest beckon you?
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When our kids were younger we generally had good luck with people willing to switch seats so we could sit together (not as a family, just one kid paired with one adult to minimize switching). I think most people are generally sympathetic when you have little ones in tow. I don't think we ever even bothered to ask the GA to get us seats together as we just kind of assumed things would work out. I guess I can kind of understand how this can be traumatic to infrequent fliers, but I think this is getting blown somewhat out of proportion.
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Yes, or the family reserves seats together at the very back of the plane, or they wait and hope that the GA will give them some of the seats reserved for airport control together. It's largely a matter of priorities, but they cannot realistically expect to grab the best seats together for free, nor should they expect others who have earned or paid for prime seats to be willing to swap for a middle seat in the rear of the aircraft.
#102
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Another preferred seat question: What happens if there are more pax than non-preferred seats? IE where they have no choice but to put pax for free into the preferred seats because those are the only seats left to assign? Wouldn't that be unfair to those who paid to be in a preferred seat? How do they handle such situations?
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Another preferred seat question: What happens if there are more pax than non-preferred seats? IE where they have no choice but to put pax for free into the preferred seats because those are the only seats left to assign? Wouldn't that be unfair to those who paid to be in a preferred seat? How do they handle such situations?
#104
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Another preferred seat question: What happens if there are more pax than non-preferred seats? IE where they have no choice but to put pax for free into the preferred seats because those are the only seats left to assign? Wouldn't that be unfair to those who paid to be in a preferred seat? How do they handle such situations?
My curiousity, though... Why would that be unfair to those who paid to be in a preferred seat? When he/she chose to purchase an F seat, the expectation was an F seat, free drinks, early boarding, etc, all of which still applies. What difference does it make if those sitting next to the pax are paying customers, medallions on UGs, airline employees or ordinary kettles who paid for a seat? How does that, in any way, change what the person who paid for F expected from DL?
#105
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I've sat next to people in F who have no idea how they were chosen to sit in F when the flight is full. Not often, but it happens.
My curiousity, though... Why would that be unfair to those who paid to be in a preferred seat? When he/she chose to purchase an F seat, the expectation was an F seat, free drinks, early boarding, etc, all of which still applies. What difference does it make if those sitting next to the pax are paying customers, medallions on UGs, airline employees or ordinary kettles who paid for a seat? How does that, in any way, change what the person who paid for F expected from DL?
My curiousity, though... Why would that be unfair to those who paid to be in a preferred seat? When he/she chose to purchase an F seat, the expectation was an F seat, free drinks, early boarding, etc, all of which still applies. What difference does it make if those sitting next to the pax are paying customers, medallions on UGs, airline employees or ordinary kettles who paid for a seat? How does that, in any way, change what the person who paid for F expected from DL?
But if someone randomly gets upgraded to preferred, EC, or F, then indeed I feel it is "unfair" to those who paid for it or legitimately earned it, even though it may be common practice on many airlines.
Which is why some airlines like SQ almost NEVER upgrade people for free, even for ops reasons. It devalues the product for those who pay for it, and increases expectations for "free" upgrades and thereby potentially dilutes revenue too.
Note that I am not suggesting those who paid should be compensated or refunded except perhaps in egregious situations. But I was just curious as to how Delta would handle the more subtle preferred seating freebie situation.
Also, is there any mechanism in place to prevent people from moving from non-preferred seats to preferred seats on light flights?