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Originally Posted by GagaPilot
(Post 27922437)
Question:
Is it better to do OLCI at T-24 from one's initial departing point, or wait until T-24 from a specific segment in order to enhance the chances of a FCM offer? It probably doesn't matter, just looking for data points others. 6 hours in Y on a 757 is not that fun! The FCM offer in OLCI pops up before you actually complete check in, so you could try right at T-24, and if you don't like the result, you can cancel out before completing the check in process, and come back and try again later. My experience though is that FCM is offered when you do start the check in process at T-24, the price is unlikely to change if you come back later. What you may find though is that FCM is not offered at T-24 on a segment, but then it is indeed offered if you come back later on the same segment. YMMV, very much so... |
How does that work with two-segment PNRs? Lets say I'm flying AAA-ATL-CCC. where AAA-ATL is a short flight that I don't want to pay to sit up front, but ATL-CCC is a longer flight with a meal served where I would want to pay if the offer was decent?
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Originally Posted by diburning
(Post 27929712)
How does that work with two-segment PNRs? Lets say I'm flying AAA-ATL-CCC. where AAA-ATL is a short flight that I don't want to pay to sit up front, but ATL-CCC is a longer flight with a meal served where I would want to pay if the offer was decent?
My offers are $X per person and sometimes say each way and sometimes say the entire trip. However, if you're upgrading on line, I'm not sure you can actually just do one way. |
Originally Posted by diburning
(Post 27929712)
How does that work with two-segment PNRs? Lets say I'm flying AAA-ATL-CCC. where AAA-ATL is a short flight that I don't want to pay to sit up front, but ATL-CCC is a longer flight with a meal served where I would want to pay if the offer was decent?
At/after OLCI, you'll occasionally see an offer for a per-segment basis. In your case, you're almost certain to get a post-OLCI offer for the short flight if it's not booked full in F at T-24, but the longer flight will be a crapshoot. If you get a post-OLCI offer on the longer flight it will end in a $9 and depending on the length of the flight it will be anywhere from $159-299 probably, maybe more maybe less. I usually see these offers when doing OLCI on the app. A few I can recall I've seen over the past couple years include: SMF-ATL $299 CLT-SLC $249 LAX-RDU $249 DTW-TPA $159 In all these cases there was no reasonable FCM offer for the entire trip/all segments before OLCI. YMMV. |
Just a data point to share in response to my post a few days ago, as well as a recent one regarding FCM on segments only.
Today I'm flying TLH-ATL-MSP-ANC. In MSP as I type this. I must've checked the OLCI FCM offers a dozen times yesterday before actually completing check-in. Out of the three segments only one was offered. The shortest. TLH-ATL for $89. Definitely not worth it for a 45 minute cruise time. No luck as to being offered anything for the two longer legs. Prior to T-24 I was offered the entire trip to upgrade to F for approx $1200. Considering I payed $650 for the main cabin T fare, it was not worth it to me. Was sincerely hoping they'd offer something semi-affordable for the 6 hour MSP-ANC leg. Oh well. WFBF. |
The GF is flying to LAS tomorrow. Saw a $109 offer when she was checking in, not sure if it was for just one leg or whole thing. I probably would have bitten if it was me but she passed.
No status, corporate ticket. |
Originally Posted by Duke787
(Post 28050860)
The GF is flying to LAS tomorrow. Saw a $109 offer when she was checking in, not sure if it was for just one leg or whole thing. I probably would have bitten if it was me but she passed.
No status, corporate ticket. |
FO flying LAX-JFK (W). Checking seat map 2 days out get my first ever offer, $750ish each way. Today no such offer and seat map looks about the same.
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Originally Posted by StayingHomeIsBetter
(Post 28051661)
You stated the TO, but can't judge the merits of the offer without knowing the FROM.
RDU - ATL - LAS |
FWIW... for that length of flight, I would have grabbed the buy-up.
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Originally Posted by Duke787
(Post 28051922)
Whoops yep that's a big piece of info to leave out.
RDU - ATL - LAS |
Checked in for tomorrow's MCO-ATL-IAD trip and was given this FCM offer, $139 for MCO-ATL only, one seat left (3 on the ATL-IAD leg). I'm on an M fare. When I do get an offer this amount is pretty normal and also generally for one leg only.
i just don't see the value for a slightly larger seat and the possibility of a PDB being worth $139. |
$205 to upgrade a one-way, almost-TCON? Yes, please!
Incidentally, as described elsewhere, I had a recent flight that was originally BWI-SLC-SFO in V, then I took an FCM offer, then I rebooked to BWI-MSP-SFO due to schedule change > 1hr and adding a connection, then took a VDB at MSP and continued on -MSP-SEA-SFO. I got the 50% MQM bonus for BWI-MSP but not MSP-SEA-SFO. Between writing and calling it took 3 contacts to get this resolved but they did finally credit with the bonus. This digression to explain why, when I took the $205 offer just now, I actually stopped to read the fine print out of curiosity :D The bolded parts say what I think most here knew already, viz. if you accept a FCM offer before the day of departure you have essentially bought an F cabin fare, and it is a real F seat, but if you're like me it's nice to see it formally stated from DL, to be able to point to in the infrequent case where issues arise. The advertised price is not an offer and is subject to change. When you click Complete Purchase, you agree to accept all Fare Rules for each flight, and all terms in Delta's applicable Contract of Carriage. No contract exists until you receive confirmation that payment was received and processed, and you have received a ticket number for each confirmed passenger. Upgrades may only be purchased for Delta- or Delta Connections- operated flights, must be more than 24 hours prior to departure of the initial segment of the itinerary, and are not available for Award Tickets and certain discounted and exception fares. Additional eligibility restrictions may apply in Delta's sole discretion. All passengers and segments must be upgraded to First/Business class within the confirmation number, except in instances where the aircraft has only a Main Cabin. Since the original ticket is being reissued , the prior ticket number is no longer valid and will be superseded by your new ticket number. Rules of your initial reservation will apply regardless of whether rules that would otherwise apply to the fare class of your upgraded ticket are less restrictive, i.e. changeability/refundability Upgraded tickets are eligible for additional mileage, MQM, and MQD accruals due to the selection of First/Business class cabin and associated fare class and the increase in base fare or carrier imposed surcharges paid in connection with your upgrade. All SkyMiles program rules apply to SkyMiles program membership, miles, offers, mile accrual, mile redemption and travel benefits, respectively. To review the rules, please visit Membership Guide & Program Rules. If you purchased trip insurance when purchasing your Main Cabin ticket, your benefits under the trip insurance policy are limited to those applicable under your Main Cabin ticket. Prices, offers, rules, and benefits are subject to change. We reserve the right to assign or reassign your upgraded seat at any time, even after boarding of the aircraft, for operational, safety or security reasons. The final decision resides with the ground staff and the operating crew on the day of the flight. Refunds will be issued to any reassigned customer if the customer is not moved to a comparable or better seat. No refund will be provided for any previously purchased ancillary product such as Priority Boarding or Delta Comfort+ ™ seating. |
Originally Posted by Zorak
(Post 28086608)
$205 to upgrade a one-way, almost-TCON? Yes, please!
The bolded parts say what I think most here knew already, viz. if you accept a FCM offer before the day of departure you have essentially bought an F cabin fare, and it is a real F seat, but if you're like me it's nice to see it formally stated from DL, to be able to point to in the infrequent case where issues arise. ... Rules of your initial reservation will apply regardless of whether rules that would otherwise apply to the fare class of your upgraded ticket are less restrictive, i.e. changeability/refundability ... |
Originally Posted by jrl767
(Post 28086863)
I'm not a lawyer, but I am a literalist ... this almost looks like FCM'd tix could be regarded as not eligible for SDC under the "available FC seat" policy, but would require the as-initially-booked inventory
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