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Originally Posted by gooselee
(Post 27509334)
But these are no longer classified as "instant upgrade" fares as they were in the past. They are unquestionably first class fares.
Previously, you used to book an "A" fare where the fare basis was something like L00AB123/WNUP, and within the fare rules there was language along the lines of "this is a coach fare with instant upgrade to first class where available". Now, you book an "A" fare and the fare basis is still L00AB123/WNUP but in the fare rules, that language is replaced by "These fares apply for first class service" No mention of "instant upgrade" anywhere anymore, and IIRC, SkyMiles earnings are strictly tied to booking class, not fare class. |
Originally Posted by DLATL777
(Post 27563021)
The wording may have changed but not its application. The very fare basis itself is proof of this-still an L fare at its roots (in your example)-all the rules of the ticket come from the L fare and not a true A fare.
If most of it is a copy/paste from the coach fare, fine. But we're specifically talking about whether or not discounted FC fares are "true" FC bookings or just upgraded coach bookings. My read is that, based upon the actual fare rules as they are written, they are now true FC bookings. Somewhat related: Has anyone actually ever seen an A or G booking where the fare basis actually started with those letters? I have yet to come across one. |
What's the difference between A and G fares out of curiosity? Does one have priority?
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just different buckets, G being lower (analogous to K being lower than Q)
I've been crediting some recent DL flights to AS; G gets a 25% bonus and A gets 75% (however, P is 100% bonus which has worked out VERY well in a couple cases) |
Have had a lot of trips to YUL and YYZ from JFK and often ask at skyclub if Canada flights in F still count for lounge access. they always tell me yes, but I have been denied a couple of times this year with G bucket fares for reasons of "this is not a first class ticket, it's an economy ticket with a complimentary instant upgrade."
Interestingly, on P fares I've never had any issues getting in. |
Originally Posted by rfrn
(Post 27566304)
Have had a lot of trips to YUL and YYZ from JFK and often ask at skyclub if Canada flights in F still count for lounge access. they always tell me yes, but I have been denied a couple of times this year with G bucket fares for reasons of "this is not a first class ticket, it's an economy ticket with a complimentary instant upgrade."
Interestingly, on P fares I've never had any issues getting in. |
Originally Posted by rfrn
(Post 27566304)
Have had a lot of trips to YUL and YYZ from JFK and often ask at skyclub if Canada flights in F still count for lounge access. they always tell me yes, but I have been denied a couple of times this year with G bucket fares for reasons of "this is not a first class ticket, it's an economy ticket with a complimentary instant upgrade."
Interestingly, on P fares I've never had any issues getting in. I could care less what a single agent says - if the published rules say I am enritled to access, that's what happens. No questions for any SkyClub agents in the process. |
Originally Posted by btonkid12345
(Post 27567167)
Anyone wanna know why some DL agents feel empoweree to make stuff up? Because people ask permission for rules that are clearly posted online.
I could care less what a single agent says - if the published rules say I am enritled to access, that's what happens. No questions for any SkyClub agents in the process. OTOH, if the BP was scanned and access still denied, that's an entirely different story. |
I thought that Canada was considered domestic for SkyClub purposes.....like The Caribbean and Mexico.
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Interesting data point in case anyone finds it useful: Flying ATL-SLC-DFW tomorrow on a cheapie V class ticket. First leg is on an A330-300. $189 upgrade offer at T-24 (available only on first leg...no inventory on second leg). Took it in a heartbeat...flatbed!
When an itinerary like this is broken up...one leg in pay-to-upgrade RP class and the other in V (WU), I assume you only earn the MQM bonus on the RP leg, correct? |
Originally Posted by EmoryFlyer
(Post 27567657)
Interesting data point in case anyone finds it useful: Flying ATL-SLC-DFW tomorrow on a cheapie V class ticket. First leg is on an A330-300. $189 upgrade offer at T-24 (available only on first leg...no inventory on second leg). Took it in a heartbeat...flatbed!
When an itinerary like this is broken up...one leg in pay-to-upgrade RP class and the other in V (WU), I assume you only earn the MQM bonus on the RP leg, correct? |
SLC-LAX U Fare $153.20
$832 upgrade offered, (booked into F). A bit more than the $65 upgrade LAX-SLC. |
It's working DL, I've started the year as 1/5....
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Originally Posted by mnredfox
(Post 27745916)
It's working DL, I've started the year as 1/5....
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I'm doing a DTW/BOS trip in a few weeks. First class is $20 cheaper than the flight I want to be on that is two hours later. I just bought the first class and am hoping to SDC since there are no occupied seats currently in First on the flight I want.
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