Kettle Invasion
May 10, 2011, 9:17 am
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I fly to LA a lot for both business and fun.
If it's fun, I usually use a Southwest RR1.0 ticket and for business, it's always going to be on Delta. As soon a the WN tickets run out, it will be delta.
Something I have noticed is that when I fly WN to LAX, there are always a lot of Kettles on the plane going to Disney. I don't see that many Kettles going to Disney on DL, so the Kettles apparently prefer WN for Disney in CA. It's weird they prefer DL for MCO (and I am sure the WN flights are loaded with Kettles going there as well), but tend to prefer WN for CA.
If it's fun, I usually use a Southwest RR1.0 ticket and for business, it's always going to be on Delta. As soon a the WN tickets run out, it will be delta.
Something I have noticed is that when I fly WN to LAX, there are always a lot of Kettles on the plane going to Disney. I don't see that many Kettles going to Disney on DL, so the Kettles apparently prefer WN for Disney in CA. It's weird they prefer DL for MCO (and I am sure the WN flights are loaded with Kettles going there as well), but tend to prefer WN for CA.
May 10, 2011, 9:17 am
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The Magic Kingdom at Walt Disney World's been around for almost 40 years (turns 40 in October), and Kettles haven't been "priced out" yet. There's no shortage of capacity at MCO, and there's several low-cost airlines with big presences at MCO that are more than willing to take up the slack if Delta doesn't serve the market well.
May 10, 2011, 9:31 am
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May 10, 2011, 9:34 am
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I fly to LA a lot for both business and fun.
If it's fun, I usually use a Southwest RR1.0 ticket and for business, it's always going to be on Delta. As soon a the WN tickets run out, it will be delta.
Something I have noticed is that when I fly WN to LAX, there are always a lot of Kettles on the plane going to Disney. I don't see that many Kettles going to Disney on DL, so the Kettles apparently prefer WN for Disney in CA. It's weird they prefer DL for MCO (and I am sure the WN flights are loaded with Kettles going there as well), but tend to prefer WN for CA.
If it's fun, I usually use a Southwest RR1.0 ticket and for business, it's always going to be on Delta. As soon a the WN tickets run out, it will be delta.
Something I have noticed is that when I fly WN to LAX, there are always a lot of Kettles on the plane going to Disney. I don't see that many Kettles going to Disney on DL, so the Kettles apparently prefer WN for Disney in CA. It's weird they prefer DL for MCO (and I am sure the WN flights are loaded with Kettles going there as well), but tend to prefer WN for CA.
May 10, 2011, 9:49 am
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One might argue this is a reflection of DLs desire/ability to serve this market "well."
May 10, 2011, 10:30 am
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May 10, 2011, 10:49 am
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May 10, 2011, 11:38 am
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Hell, the median household income is under $50k in the US these days...a few grand for a vacation to Disney puts a dent in that pretty quick...
All of this adds up in the Mouse House not having enough customers to support itself the way I look at it as I'm sure Disney's costs will also directly increase resulting in even higher ticket prices to keep the doors open in their mega resorts. Despite common belief, those monorails don't run on love (yet), lol.
May 10, 2011, 12:14 pm
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I would imagine that is the theoretical point at which the price of oil (and subsequently gasoline) grows high enough to price-out the average family from being able to afford to/or willing to expend what little disposable income they have left to travel to Disney instead of more affordable options closer to their home locale. At $160 a barrel a family of four's daily living expenses are going to be pushing the limits of what they can afford when you consider how much groceries, gas, etc. are going to to increase over time.
Hell, the median household income is under $50k in the US these days...a few grand for a vacation to Disney puts a dent in that pretty quick...
All of this adds up in the Mouse House not having enough customers to support itself the way I look at it as I'm sure Disney's costs will also directly increase resulting in even higher ticket prices to keep the doors open in their mega resorts. Despite common belief, those monorails don't run on love (yet), lol.
Hell, the median household income is under $50k in the US these days...a few grand for a vacation to Disney puts a dent in that pretty quick...
All of this adds up in the Mouse House not having enough customers to support itself the way I look at it as I'm sure Disney's costs will also directly increase resulting in even higher ticket prices to keep the doors open in their mega resorts. Despite common belief, those monorails don't run on love (yet), lol.
Don't discount the imagineers just yet, though. Disney World is its own legal city, meaning that they have considerable control over what they do and do not put on their property. It would not shock me (at all) to find out that they have at least kicked around the possibility of nuclear power at some point.
(Note: I have no idea what kind of state and federal oversight is involved in constructing a nuclear reactor. But I'm willing to bet that Disney does
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May 10, 2011, 12:17 pm
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Don't discount the imagineers just yet, though. Disney World is its own legal city, meaning that they have considerable control over what they do and do not put on their property. It would not shock me (at all) to find out that they have at least kicked around the possibility of nuclear power at some point.[/i]
May 10, 2011, 12:24 pm
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May 10, 2011, 12:34 pm
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My understanding is that the energy output of solar comes nowhere close to the energy output of nuclear.
Also, while there's a lot of sun in Florida, there's also a lot of rain and clouds. It's not like AZ or NV where there is truly year-round sun.
Also, while there's a lot of sun in Florida, there's also a lot of rain and clouds. It's not like AZ or NV where there is truly year-round sun.
May 10, 2011, 1:00 pm
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I doubt they were as bad as the 'adult' rejects I had to sit across from in Feb on DL ATL-MIA. How this guy and two 'girls' made it on board as hammered as they sounded and acted is amazing . Kicking the lady in front of thiers seat,loudly swearing ...very annoying. Supposedly going on a cruise. If I got stuck on that ship,he might be missing come the next port of call. Thankfully it's only an hour or so flight (and a 757,which is my fave narrow-body)^
May 10, 2011, 8:00 pm
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Some of the stuff coming down the pike may make solar more of a realistic option... not to run a city, but the technology is getting better... ask the folks in TN about the little plant that is being built there....
May 10, 2011, 11:38 pm
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I doubt they were as bad as the 'adult' rejects I had to sit across from in Feb on DL ATL-MIA. How this guy and two 'girls' made it on board as hammered as they sounded and acted is amazing . Kicking the lady in front of thiers seat,loudly swearing ...very annoying. Supposedly going on a cruise. If I got stuck on that ship,he might be missing come the next port of call. Thankfully it's only an hour or so flight (and a 757,which is my fave narrow-body)^
As the others said, it's in getting the guest to Orlando and the parks by plane or car. This is pretty much a Disney Legend like Walt being frozen and how closing the Adventurer's Club @ Pleasure Island was a good idea. The difference being that this one makes some kind of sense, at least unlike the other two.