Oh Delta...you're I.T. is just amusing now...
#31
Used to be HSDebateCoach
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: SJC/SFO/OAK
Programs: DL Plat, UA Plat, MR Plat Premier, Hertz Presidents Circle
Posts: 229
I have booked a number of flights on the site so I am quite familiar with it. I was referencing when the site goes down while trying to book a flight today specifically. But thanks!
#32
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Wayne, PA USA
Programs: DL MM, Marriott Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium, HHonors Gold
Posts: 7,242
Clearly they should have tossed the NWA IT VP out with the DC-9s
#33
Join Date: May 2005
Location: FLL
Programs: DL ♦M MM|HH♦|Marr Slvr|CO UA AA US|Pri Cub Plat|SPG|Avis 1st|Htz 5*
Posts: 5,044
#34
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: CHI/MSP
Programs: Delta Platinum, United Prem Exec
Posts: 1,334
Maybe they should have tossed out DLTragic instead? Maybe they picked the right person to finally get rid of DLTragic?
I know, I know, it's easier to simply blame the merger and former NWA people than it is to admit your stone-age reservations system cannot handle the load from modern usage and actually replace it.
I know, I know, it's easier to simply blame the merger and former NWA people than it is to admit your stone-age reservations system cannot handle the load from modern usage and actually replace it.
#35
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Wayne, PA USA
Programs: DL MM, Marriott Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium, HHonors Gold
Posts: 7,242
Maybe they should have tossed out DLTragic instead? Maybe they picked the right person to finally get rid of DLTragic?
I know, I know, it's easier to simply blame the merger and former NWA people than it is to admit your stone-age reservations system cannot handle the load from modern usage and actually replace it.
I know, I know, it's easier to simply blame the merger and former NWA people than it is to admit your stone-age reservations system cannot handle the load from modern usage and actually replace it.
Now, under the current IT leadership, former NWA customers have lost features and capabilities they valued and were used to, and the stability, reliability, usability, and feature set has decreased for both former NWA customers and former Delta customers. I don't care whre the IT VP came from - It's not germaine to the discussion. The point is that the entire IT experience for customers has worsened under the individual's leadership and it's time for that individual to accept responsibility for these failures. It's also time for Delta's leadership to recognize that this individual clearly is not capable of executing the most basic, fundamental aspects of their job - namely providing a reliable, effective IT experience to Delta customers.
#36
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: National Capitol Region
Programs: Delta Dirt Medallion,AA,USairways, WN Rapid Rewards, National Emerald Club
Posts: 3,912
I can't remember which analyst's report I read about Delta's quarterly results but the analyst cited "technolgy issues" as a risk item.
Delta leadership made the decision to consolidate onto an aged system, now they own the consequences.
#37
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: MSP
Programs: DL PM, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 710
Why would they? They had this for a base to build on…
Knock on wood...I haven't had any problems. Hope this doesn't jinx that.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/57045227@N02/5261512746/
Knock on wood...I haven't had any problems. Hope this doesn't jinx that.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/57045227@N02/5261512746/
#38
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Under an ORD approach path
Programs: DL PM, MM. Coffee isn't a drug, it's a vitamin.
Posts: 12,935
Deltamatic and Pars are both very old systems that have been built upon, modernized, patched and modified endlessly. However, they are not analogous systems; it wasn't a matter of selecting one or the other. Pars was an airline reservations system. Deltamatic is an airlines operations system. To give a really simplified analogy which you may be able to grasp, view Deltamatic as is a full operating system and Pars is a major application.
If they went with Pars, they would have had to cobble it together with other applications and systems, and that was not a reasonable solution. They needed something which could get up and running and keep the planes fueled and the landing slots allocated.
They recognize that the entire thing needs to be replaced with a system built on a newer foundation, but that is a huge undertaking. First they needed to pull the merger together and keep the planes flying, and although we still see a lot of problems and mess, and as they try to move forward things keep breaking, they seem to have done better than most airline mergers out there.
#39
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: BNA
Programs: DL PM/MM, Hilton Diamond, *wood plat, UA 1kc
Posts: 921
I haven't been able to book a revenue ticket for 3 days now. I am sitting in the middle of Africa, so calling the Diamond line is challenging. I keep getting:
We are unable to process your request. Please call the Delta Online Customer Support Desk at 1-888-750-3284 for assistance. Customers outside of the 50 United States should contact the Delta Reservations Sales office for their country. (#101728)
Instead I just booked a r/t Biz class ticket on UA/SAA (via the ultra-stable South African Airways website) to JNB for $8,599.80 for a week in Feb. I couldn't wait for delta.crap to work since my client insisted on my purchasing the ticket now.
Delta - this is actually costing you revenue...??
We are unable to process your request. Please call the Delta Online Customer Support Desk at 1-888-750-3284 for assistance. Customers outside of the 50 United States should contact the Delta Reservations Sales office for their country. (#101728)
Instead I just booked a r/t Biz class ticket on UA/SAA (via the ultra-stable South African Airways website) to JNB for $8,599.80 for a week in Feb. I couldn't wait for delta.crap to work since my client insisted on my purchasing the ticket now.
Delta - this is actually costing you revenue...??
#40
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: CHA
Programs: DL GM, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, Priority Plat, Nat'l Exec
Posts: 233
You know, I found an old Digital 486DX2 66Mhz machine in my garage last week. You think Delta.dumb could use it as an upgrade? It's got 16 megs of RAM in it. I was just gonna throw it out, but if Delta wants it... I'll be happy to donate it.
#41
Join Date: Oct 2007
Programs: Now just a lowly DL PM/1MM. This industry needs some competition. It's just not enjoyable anymore.
Posts: 3,543
Why would they? They had this for a base to build on…
Knock on wood...I haven't had any problems. Hope this doesn't jinx that.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/57045227@N02/5261512746/
Knock on wood...I haven't had any problems. Hope this doesn't jinx that.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/57045227@N02/5261512746/
#42
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: MSP
Programs: Fallen Plats, ex-WN CP, DYKWIW; still a Hilton Diamond & Club Cholula™ R.I.P. Super Plats
Posts: 25,415
Why would they? They had this for a base to build on…
Knock on wood...I haven't had any problems. Hope this doesn't jinx that.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/57045227@N02/5261512746/
Knock on wood...I haven't had any problems. Hope this doesn't jinx that.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/57045227@N02/5261512746/
#43
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Bye Delta
Programs: AA EXP, HH Diamond, IHG Plat, Hyatt Plat, Marriott Plat, Nat'l Exec Elite, Avis Presidents Club
Posts: 16,278
I haven't been able to book a revenue ticket for 3 days now. I am sitting in the middle of Africa, so calling the Diamond line is challenging. I keep getting:
We are unable to process your request. Please call the Delta Online Customer Support Desk at 1-888-750-3284 for assistance. Customers outside of the 50 United States should contact the Delta Reservations Sales office for their country. (#101728)
Instead I just booked a r/t Biz class ticket on UA/SAA (via the ultra-stable South African Airways website) to JNB for $8,599.80 for a week in Feb. I couldn't wait for delta.crap to work since my client insisted on my purchasing the ticket now.
Delta - this is actually costing you revenue...??
We are unable to process your request. Please call the Delta Online Customer Support Desk at 1-888-750-3284 for assistance. Customers outside of the 50 United States should contact the Delta Reservations Sales office for their country. (#101728)
Instead I just booked a r/t Biz class ticket on UA/SAA (via the ultra-stable South African Airways website) to JNB for $8,599.80 for a week in Feb. I couldn't wait for delta.crap to work since my client insisted on my purchasing the ticket now.
Delta - this is actually costing you revenue...??
#44
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: MSP
Programs: SPG Gold;NWA gold;Hyatt Plat
Posts: 1,458
right.. because NW didn't have any such systems before.. they just would've had to expand existing. Deltamatic is an all-in-one, but NW ran with multiple systems before quite reliably. you make it sound like they would have to design new systems that hadn't been run/existed before.
#45
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Under an ORD approach path
Programs: DL PM, MM. Coffee isn't a drug, it's a vitamin.
Posts: 12,935
right.. because NW didn't have any such systems before.. they just would've had to expand existing. Deltamatic is an all-in-one, but NW ran with multiple systems before quite reliably. you make it sound like they would have to design new systems that hadn't been run/existed before.
Just coordinating the two tech op systems, with one million parts in the combined databases (and which had to be done with absolute zero error) took a year.
In the end, they had to go all in with either one system or the other, and they had to make a choice and live with it. They chose a unified system which was already tied into their main base operations.