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DLNYC Jun 20, 2010 10:01 pm


Originally Posted by tyler.jenkins (Post 14146419)
Unfortunately, that is what I am hearing... maybe DL will wise up, and give the Million Milers more pull as far as upgrades go, and maybe even a few exclusive benefits? and have a Million Miler tier for extra rewards for being a VERY loyal customer... When there are people like us, though I will not guess you age, but as for me, I am turning 20 this year, and have already amassed nearly 1 million MQMs, and for you, having flown 3MM with DL we should get more than a fancy gift and luggage tags, plus the Elite for life. They should have maybe even secret levels of Elite status, like other airlines are rumored to have. Any thoughts?

I'm all for beefing up the MM program, but not for upping UG priority just for flying 1MM. I would support granting 1MMs SkyPriority status so as to allow use of priority screening and boarding, but UG priority should be same as an FO.

As for a "secret tier," any such tier should be based on spending trends, not miles flown (as is the case with other airlines).

tyler.jenkins Jun 20, 2010 10:06 pm


Originally Posted by DLNYC (Post 14167768)
I'm all for beefing up the MM program, but not for upping UG priority just for flying 1MM. I would support granting 1MMs SkyPriority status so as to allow use of priority screening and boarding, but UG priority should be same as an FO.

As for a "secret tier," any such tier should be based on spending trends, not miles flown (as is the case with other airlines).

I would be ok with that... or for those who fly 200,000 miles a year, or spend $200k/ year on tickets or something, but I do think that Million Milers should have better priority, they have shown loyalty over time, not just flying 25-50k miles in a year. Generally Million Milers are hard core DL flyers, and will keep their business with Delta, most elites, especially FO's it seems are just getting their status from a few flights, or flying F or J a few times, and letting the status go after the year is up, while Million Milers should get Lifetime SkyClub access, and a special upgrade list, maybe special promos, or exclusive rewards, and the highest priority for cancelled flights, or missed connections? any thoughts?

DLNYC Jun 20, 2010 10:18 pm


Originally Posted by tyler.jenkins (Post 14167786)
I would be ok with that... or for those who fly 200,000 miles a year, or spend $200k/ year on tickets or something, but I do think that Million Milers should have better priority, they have shown loyalty over time, not just flying 25-50k miles in a year. Generally Million Milers are hard core DL flyers, and will keep their business with Delta, most elites, especially FO's it seems are just getting their status from a few flights, or flying F or J a few times, and letting the status go after the year is up, while Million Milers should get Lifetime SkyClub access, and a special upgrade list, maybe special promos, or exclusive rewards, and the highest priority for cancelled flights, or missed connections? any thoughts?

Wholeheartedly disagree. One can make MM by flying 25k for 40 years (from birth?). Such a person should not go ahead of DM, PM, or GM for UGs. Alternatively, one can make MM in 20 years by flying 50k a year. Said person has no right to ahead of a current DM.

FF programs are about generating revenue, not rewarding travel from 10 years ago. Give the people spending money now priority, not the people who used to spend money. The only way I could see MM status being used to determine priority is as a tiebreaker.

That said, in the age of status matching, beefing up the MM program does give some incentive to stick with an airline over the long-term (this is where SP boarding and security privileges would come in). Putting MMs above current SP members on the UG list, however, devalues DM, PM, and GM to the point where said medallion members would likely run away in droves.

tyler.jenkins Jun 20, 2010 10:49 pm


Originally Posted by DLNYC (Post 14167831)
Wholeheartedly disagree. One can make MM by flying 25k for 40 years (from birth?). Such a person should not go ahead of DM, PM, or GM for UGs. Alternatively, one can make MM in 20 years by flying 50k a year. Said person has no right to ahead of a current DM.

FF programs are about generating revenue, not rewarding travel from 10 years ago. Give the people spending money now priority, not the people who used to spend money. The only way I could see MM status being used to determine priority is as a tiebreaker.

That said, in the age of status matching, beefing up the MM program does give some incentive to stick with an airline over the long-term (this is where SP boarding and security privileges would come in). Putting MMs above current SP members on the UG list, however, devalues DM, PM, and GM to the point where said medallion members would likely run away in droves.


But for those of us (like me) who have gained 1 MM in under 10 years, we should have some kind of benefits, other than Silver medallion for life. maybe something like UA's Global Services? or AA's concierge Key? maybe something more exclusive? like "the Black card" of Delta, for the few members who are extremely loyal to DL, maybe to include those who have flown 5 MM or more, in addition to those who, like me, have flown those miles in a short amount of time? Just s thought, because, honestly, what reason do I have to stick around? Silver status? they get the middle finger all the time, might as well be a general member...

They need something to keep their MOST valued customers

DLNYC Jun 20, 2010 10:58 pm


Originally Posted by tyler.jenkins (Post 14167920)
But for those of us (like me) who have gained 1 MM in under 10 years, we should have some kind of benefits, other than Silver medallion for life. maybe something like UA's Global Services? or AA's concierge Key? maybe something more exclusive? like "the Black card" of Delta, for the few members who are extremely loyal to DL, maybe to include those who have flown 5 MM or more, in addition to those who, like me, have flown those miles in a short amount of time? Just s thought, because, honestly, what reason do I have to stick around? Silver status? they get the middle finger all the time, might as well be a general member...

They need something to keep their MOST valued customers

So basically you just want a new tier for yourself that trumps everybody else? :D Most people who have flown 5MM are close to death (if you continue to fly at your current rate every year from now on forward, you won't make 5MM until 60). DL should probably focus their attention on people who are going to be around for awhile. 1MM in 10 years is 100k a year, below the DM threshold. DMs are (meant to be) the "black cards" of Delta. Unless once can keep up with the DMs (flying 125k a year, or more), one should not be treated as a DM.

Dovster Jun 21, 2010 2:35 am


Originally Posted by DLNYC (Post 14167945)
Most people who have flown 5MM are close to death (if you continue to fly at your current rate every year from now on forward, you won't make 5MM until 60).

I am 64. Would you be kind enough to tell me how many days I have left?

(I am flying to the States next week and plan to be there for 8 days. What are the odds on my getting home alive?)

mike_plat Jun 21, 2010 2:50 am

I am against the FF entitlement programs. They are dumb. The just take away from the benefits of the current customers, who pay the bills. Just as though you shouldn't expect the government to take care of you for life, you shouldn't expect an airline either. I think all these FF entitlement programs should be rescinded. If you want SkyPriority when you're retired and no longer traveling for work to qualify, then buy the first class ticket.

StayingHomeIsBetter Jun 21, 2010 6:49 am


Originally Posted by Dovster (Post 14168446)
...

(I am flying to the States next week and plan to be there for 8 days. What are the odds on my getting home alive?)

Depends... where are you visiting?:)

Dovster Jun 21, 2010 7:00 am


Originally Posted by StayingHomeIsBetter (Post 14169050)
Depends... where are you visiting?:)

Two danger spots:

a. Philadelphia

b. Turner Field in Atlanta (where I will be rooting for the Marlins).

RichMSN Jun 21, 2010 7:03 am


Originally Posted by Dovster (Post 14169083)
Two danger spots:

a. Philadelphia

b. Turner Field in Atlanta (where I will be rooting for the Marlins).

For the 24 hours after ingesting a wit wiz, you will increase your chance of another cardiac incident. :D

The SkyPriority boarding is just elite boarding called something different these days. I'm only a GM (for at least another month or so) and I've noticed little change from when I was a PLT on NW, except for the 5 times I've sat in the back. No biggy, really. I haven't had to redeposit miles or reissue award tix yet, though.

Dovster Jun 21, 2010 7:07 am


Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 14169098)
For the 24 hours after ingesting a wit wiz, you will increase your chance of another cardiac incident. :D

I like cheesesteaks, but would much prefer increasing my chances of a cardiac incident by active participation in immoral activities.

Kwaj boy Jun 21, 2010 8:58 am


Originally Posted by dd1612 (Post 14145202)
"As for the complimentary upgrades, I feel your pain. Hopefully, once hitting Million Miler Status with DL, that will improve my chances..."

Dont hold your breath ... I am 1.5 million miles with NWA/ DL ... been Platinum since 1994 ... used to enjoy an almost 100% upgrade rate ... now am at 20% upgrade, and with Delta AMEX Reserve.

Too many DM's and PM's and Delta's policy of upgrading even FO's with higher fares ... enuff said ...

Wow. It must be the routes you are flying. My upgrades are at close to 100% as a plat even with some LUT fares which is much better than when I flew CO as a plat.

sweeper20 Jun 21, 2010 9:06 am


Originally Posted by tyler.jenkins (Post 14144431)
I would agree with that, but only being 20 myself, I don't get to use the pre boarding, but I have no problem waiting for F/J to board, or even Zone 1, as I am currently a Platinum Medallion as of today, apparently.



Originally Posted by tyler.jenkins (Post 14144661)

Well, on a CRJ200 there aren't that many bags to begin with (one would assume). But I am glad to hear that Sky Priority is benefiting the People it is supposed to, for the most part. I will have a chance to try out the SP bag tags on my Million Miler Qualifying flight on July 4th! so I will be sure to post the results here.

Wow man, 20 yrs old and already a Million Miler?! Thats some hard core flying in a short time!

anotherATLelite Jun 21, 2010 9:57 am

SP at EWR
 
To go back to the topic of the OP, I flew out of EWR yesterday afternoon and SP seems to be non-existent there so far as I could tell! Sure, the signs were there - in two different DL check-in areas at terminal B (couldn't tell what the difference was) but after standing in the SP queue for about 10 mins (while the DL agent behind the desk didn't even look up!) I ended up using the kiosk and then going back to the SP queue and got the agent's attention by putting my bag on the scale! I asked her a question about my companion's upgrade, only to be told "companions who were not in the same record were not eligible for upgrades!"...:mad: I noticed too that they tagged bags with the old green "First Class/World Business Class" tags rather than the new yellow SP tags. The whole experience was quite chaotic. Maybe I'm just used to ATL where it always works amazingly smoothly!

DLNYC Jun 21, 2010 10:24 am


Originally Posted by anotherATLelite (Post 14169979)
To go back to the topic of the OP, I flew out of EWR yesterday afternoon and SP seems to be non-existent there so far as I could tell! Sure, the signs were there - in two different DL check-in areas at terminal B (couldn't tell what the difference was) but after standing in the SP queue for about 10 mins (while the DL agent behind the desk didn't even look up!) I ended up using the kiosk and then going back to the SP queue and got the agent's attention by putting my bag on the scale! I asked her a question about my companion's upgrade, only to be told "companions who were not in the same record were not eligible for upgrades!"...:mad: I noticed too that they tagged bags with the old green "First Class/World Business Class" tags rather than the new yellow SP tags. The whole experience was quite chaotic. Maybe I'm just used to ATL where it always works amazingly smoothly!

EWR is a mess. There is always an issue. For all of JFK's problems, it is MUCH better than EWR.


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