Unique connection options -- can I book?
#1
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Unique connection options -- can I book?
When I search for upgrade availability (usually on LAX-ATL), ExpertFlyer offers up some interesting connection options (LAX-MEM-ATL) that usually are wide open...but when I go to delta.com I can't find a way to book them. Is there a way around this or is ExpertFlyer just making assumptions about connections that don't exist?
Thanks, and apologies if this is handled somewhere in another post. A (cursory) glance of the FAQ didn't turn it up.
Thanks, and apologies if this is handled somewhere in another post. A (cursory) glance of the FAQ didn't turn it up.
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When I search for upgrade availability (usually on LAX-ATL), ExpertFlyer offers up some interesting connection options (LAX-MEM-ATL) that usually are wide open...but when I go to delta.com I can't find a way to book them. Is there a way around this or is ExpertFlyer just making assumptions about connections that don't exist?
Thanks, and apologies if this is handled somewhere in another post. A (cursory) glance of the FAQ didn't turn it up.
Thanks, and apologies if this is handled somewhere in another post. A (cursory) glance of the FAQ didn't turn it up.
e.g.
LAX-MEM
MEM-ATL
#3
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I'm not surprised; delta.dumb doesn't seem to like the PMNW hub routings very well, but I've noticed the problem more when I search for AMS connections.
Like the previous poster said, try multi-city. If this doesn't work, try calling and have the elite line book it for you. If you're subject to the $20 direct ticketing fee, you might be able to do what some folks do for award tickets: have the phone agent make the reservation and place it on hold, and then you buy it through delta.com. Alternatively, try talking with tech support since they shouldn't charge a fee if it's an IT issue. (Isn't almost everything with DL an IT issue?)
Like the previous poster said, try multi-city. If this doesn't work, try calling and have the elite line book it for you. If you're subject to the $20 direct ticketing fee, you might be able to do what some folks do for award tickets: have the phone agent make the reservation and place it on hold, and then you buy it through delta.com. Alternatively, try talking with tech support since they shouldn't charge a fee if it's an IT issue. (Isn't almost everything with DL an IT issue?)
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ExpertFlyer looks at availability by segment, not applying fare rules for the relevant connection. In that way, delta.com is a lot smarter. You may find EF suggesting some routings which are prohibited for the cheapest fare rules and so might not appear appear in a delta.com search by price.
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ExpertFlyer looks at availability by segment, not applying fare rules for the relevant connection. In that way, delta.com is a lot smarter. You may find EF suggesting some routings which are prohibited for the cheapest fare rules and so might not appear appear in a delta.com search by price.
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I found a way around the issue where the multi-city search does not show the flights that is being shown on ITA or EF... I.E. LAX-ATL-MEM-JFK is available via ITA, but when you feed it into DL via multi-city the MEM-JFK is listed as empty or they only list 2 or 3 flights that results in a higher fare than what is being shown in ITA...
When doing multi-city search after you found the flights you want thru ITA or EF, do the same thing on DL's site via multi-city search... Select the time periods in the multi-city search [morning, noon, afternoon, evening, etc] and the flight that you see thru ITA, and EF will show up and the price matches.
For instance, thru ITA I found LAX-JFK-MIA-MSP-SAN-DTW-MIA-JFK-LAX... When I fed in the airport codes in multi-city I was able to select flights all the way up to SAN, then when trying to select flights for SAN-MIA the list was empty [no flights listed]... I went back and "fed" in the time periods such as evening for LAX-JFK, morning for JFK-MIA, noon for MIA-SAN, evening for SAN-MIA, etc... Viola, I was able to select the flights that I found on ITA and book it for exactly the same fare amount that was quoted on ITA.
Hope this helps...
When doing multi-city search after you found the flights you want thru ITA or EF, do the same thing on DL's site via multi-city search... Select the time periods in the multi-city search [morning, noon, afternoon, evening, etc] and the flight that you see thru ITA, and EF will show up and the price matches.
For instance, thru ITA I found LAX-JFK-MIA-MSP-SAN-DTW-MIA-JFK-LAX... When I fed in the airport codes in multi-city I was able to select flights all the way up to SAN, then when trying to select flights for SAN-MIA the list was empty [no flights listed]... I went back and "fed" in the time periods such as evening for LAX-JFK, morning for JFK-MIA, noon for MIA-SAN, evening for SAN-MIA, etc... Viola, I was able to select the flights that I found on ITA and book it for exactly the same fare amount that was quoted on ITA.
Hope this helps...