Useless "systemwide upgrades"
#31
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: now ZRH, previously DTW
Programs: DL-Diamond & 1MM; HH-Diamond; Marriott-Gold
Posts: 159
I don't know why so many people are complaining about their SWU. Surely, if you fly enough to be PM or DM with Delta, I would hope/expect that you also understand the importance of reading the T&C's before choosing your gift selection. The SWU T&C on Delta's website is one of the few things that are actually quite clear and well written (well, at least on DL or KL flight, on AF, it's a bit tricker
).
With that said, we've been happily choosing SWUs for the past however many years... Well, it all started when NW gave them out to their PE in the old time. Paying less than 3K a ticket for Europe - Hawaii in business and domestic first confirmed at booking isn't that bad of a deal, imo. Or a trip at about 1,700 USD in business from Europe - US east coast. Or even using them on AF could be good deals too. Of course, with upgrades, you have to be more flexible in order to get upgradable (Z for DL flights) seats at time of booking which I've always managed (well, I only get M if I can manage running the upgrade through at time of booking).
).With that said, we've been happily choosing SWUs for the past however many years... Well, it all started when NW gave them out to their PE in the old time. Paying less than 3K a ticket for Europe - Hawaii in business and domestic first confirmed at booking isn't that bad of a deal, imo. Or a trip at about 1,700 USD in business from Europe - US east coast. Or even using them on AF could be good deals too. Of course, with upgrades, you have to be more flexible in order to get upgradable (Z for DL flights) seats at time of booking which I've always managed (well, I only get M if I can manage running the upgrade through at time of booking).
#32
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Greater CDG Area
Programs: DL DM; *A-Gold
Posts: 822
Even if you get a confirmed upgrade when purchasing the M fare, in case of Irrops, you'll find yourself again in Y, so there is a risk. The last time I used an SWU, I was very lucky, my flight the previous day got cancelled (airport closure due to snow), if I'd booked a day earlier, I'd have been OOL.
#33
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: now ZRH, previously DTW
Programs: DL-Diamond & 1MM; HH-Diamond; Marriott-Gold
Posts: 159
Even if you get a confirmed upgrade when purchasing the M fare, in case of Irrops, you'll find yourself again in Y, so there is a risk. The last time I used an SWU, I was very lucky, my flight the previous day got cancelled (airport closure due to snow), if I'd booked a day earlier, I'd have been OOL.
This is for Delta operated flights though as DL obviously can't make AF or KL open up award inventory.
#35
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: SFO
Programs: DL DM/MM; UA Premier 1K; AA EXP; ICH Plat Ambassador
Posts: 1,565
Despite the uncompetitive SWU's DL gives out, they are IMO less uncompetitive than DL SkyMiles. I've never found myself wishing I had 20K more SkyMiles instead of 4 SWU's.
#36
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: DL FO, UA, AA, AsiaMiles, SPG, HHonors
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+1, I use EF to check ahead of time but basically I do the same as you. I've never had an SWU expire.
#37
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Programs: Delta skymiles DM + 1MM
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Yup. Just yesterday, I booked a DL W fare on DL.dumb and then called to use my SWUs to upgrade. Agents had to recode the DL-coded flights to AF, but once they did, there was no issue applying the SWUs. My only issue was I couldn't find G out of SAN on my day of travel (that would get me to YUL in time for the AF flight), so I just have to hope the SWU gives me the needed boost to score the upgrade on that sector. W was 1225, M was 1900+, and discounted biz was just over 2000. I'm happy with the value I got out of it.
Personally, I think since DL put EC on their int fleet, and as long as I can get a bulkhead seat, I will no longer buy an upgradeable coach ticket when flying to Europe. There's so much leg room in the bulkhead seats, when my feet are fully stretched out, they don't even come close to touching the bulkhead wall.
#38
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Also, you can redeem them going TPAC but the fare has to be a DL Y fare. Heck, at that point, you mine as well just buy the J fare.
Personally, I think since DL put EC on their int fleet, and as long as I can get a bulkhead seat, I will no longer buy an upgradeable coach ticket when flying to Europe. There's so much leg room in the bulkhead seats, when my feet are fully stretched out, they don't even come close to touching the bulkhead wall.
Personally, I think since DL put EC on their int fleet, and as long as I can get a bulkhead seat, I will no longer buy an upgradeable coach ticket when flying to Europe. There's so much leg room in the bulkhead seats, when my feet are fully stretched out, they don't even come close to touching the bulkhead wall.





