The Definitive "How To Search for Low Tier Business Awards"
#1186
Join Date: May 2011
Programs: Spg Gold, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 1,578
From what I have noticed, the award calendar says the truth about low level award availability, but delta.com is too dumb to find it. In that case, if you are flying DL metal, you can use the Alaska air website. With this website, I have found the following flights that do price at 100k on delta.com:
Delta 132
ATL 12:30 pm Tue, Apr 16
JFK 2:56 pm Tue, Apr 16
Coach
Delta 160
JFK 5:00 pm Tue, Apr 16
MXP 7:30 am Wed, Apr 17
Business
Delta 75
MXP 9:50 am Fri, May 3
ATL 2:30 pm Fri, May 3
Business
There is also the option to take the 7:45 am flight out of ATL for an increased connection time in JFK.
HTH
Delta 132
ATL 12:30 pm Tue, Apr 16
JFK 2:56 pm Tue, Apr 16
Coach
Delta 160
JFK 5:00 pm Tue, Apr 16
MXP 7:30 am Wed, Apr 17
Business
Delta 75
MXP 9:50 am Fri, May 3
ATL 2:30 pm Fri, May 3
Business
There is also the option to take the 7:45 am flight out of ATL for an increased connection time in JFK.
HTH
Can find it easier on Alaska Air ?
#1187
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 349
PHL-LGA , JFK- VCE(open jaw)
Rome- BCN(stop over)
BCN-AMS(24 hours connection)
AMS-JFK , LGA -PHL
Why is the Rome-BCN is costing me extra 25,000 miles? Before adding that segment it only cost me 100k miles.... I thought per Delta rule is I could do a stop over and an open Jaw?
Any help is appreciated? Perhaps I should do JFK-Rome, Rome to BCN?
#1188
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Programs: DL 1 million, AA 1 mil, HH lapsed Diamond, Marriott Plat
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PHL-LGA , JFK- VCE(open jaw)
Rome- BCN(stop over)
BCN-AMS(24 hours connection)
AMS-JFK , LGA -PHL
Why is the Rome-BCN is costing me extra 25,000 miles? Before adding that segment it only cost me 100k miles.... I thought per Delta rule is I could do a stop over and an open Jaw?
Any help is appreciated? Perhaps I should do JFK-Rome, Rome to BCN?
Rome- BCN(stop over)
BCN-AMS(24 hours connection)
AMS-JFK , LGA -PHL
Why is the Rome-BCN is costing me extra 25,000 miles? Before adding that segment it only cost me 100k miles.... I thought per Delta rule is I could do a stop over and an open Jaw?
Any help is appreciated? Perhaps I should do JFK-Rome, Rome to BCN?
Have you put this on hold and called to ask for manual pricing?
#1189
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 349
I only could think of 2 reasons
1.) it is coded as Z which is marked as First/Business
2.) it is not available as low level award? perhaps mid-level by Delta?
#1190
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I think you can dismiss both of those possibilities. You appear to have a low business - low business award that should price at 100K (and PHL-LGA-PHL in coach because those are single-class aircraft). All partner award inventory is low band for awards (except for Hawaiian, which can be low or medium). That's not to say there isn't a random ghost in the pricing machine for this itin.
#1191
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: JFK/LGA/EWR
Posts: 1,296
PHL-LGA , JFK- VCE(open jaw)
Rome- BCN(stop over)
BCN-AMS(24 hours connection)
AMS-JFK , LGA -PHL
Why is the Rome-BCN is costing me extra 25,000 miles? Before adding that segment it only cost me 100k miles.... I thought per Delta rule is I could do a stop over and an open Jaw?
Any help is appreciated? Perhaps I should do JFK-Rome, Rome to BCN?
Rome- BCN(stop over)
BCN-AMS(24 hours connection)
AMS-JFK , LGA -PHL
Why is the Rome-BCN is costing me extra 25,000 miles? Before adding that segment it only cost me 100k miles.... I thought per Delta rule is I could do a stop over and an open Jaw?
Any help is appreciated? Perhaps I should do JFK-Rome, Rome to BCN?
#1193
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 349
But the agent had to manually priced it...pretty time consuming!
Any idea if I could ask them to take the
PHL-LGA out on December 15th, 2012? Making this a double open Jaw? is that allowed?
But keep the LGA-PHL on January 2nd, 2013?
This would make the trip double open jaw...
I might want to spend a night in New York(leave on the evening of the 14th December)... and could easily take Megabus/bolt bus there.
Last edited by superking; Jul 22, 2012 at 5:05 pm
#1194
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Detroit
Programs: NWA, AC., SWA, AA.,UA, HH
Posts: 165
I know its been a while since I posted but I thought I was screwed into using 240,000 pp to fly to Bankok from DTW at Christmas
I am reading the thread again trying to let this all sink in
YOu guys are amazing!!!!!
I am not adverse to booking out of JFK and buying a ticket there.
What do you think it would cost in Skymile points doing it that way
Yes, I live in the Detroit area
Thanks for the suggestions
Jerry
I am reading the thread again trying to let this all sink in
YOu guys are amazing!!!!!
I am not adverse to booking out of JFK and buying a ticket there.
What do you think it would cost in Skymile points doing it that way
Yes, I live in the Detroit area
Thanks for the suggestions
Jerry
#1195
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 349
I am reading the thread again trying to let this all sink in
YOu guys are amazing!!!!!
I am not adverse to booking out of JFK and buying a ticket there.
What do you think it will cost in Skymile points doing it that way
Yes, I live in the Detroit area
Thanks for the suggestions
Jerry
YOu guys are amazing!!!!!
I am not adverse to booking out of JFK and buying a ticket there.
What do you think it will cost in Skymile points doing it that way
Yes, I live in the Detroit area
Thanks for the suggestions
Jerry
#1196
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#1197
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 349
I think you can dismiss both of those possibilities. You appear to have a low business - low business award that should price at 100K (and PHL-LGA-PHL in coach because those are single-class aircraft). All partner award inventory is low band for awards (except for Hawaiian, which can be low or medium). That's not to say there isn't a random ghost in the pricing machine for this itin.
This is for December 14th 2012
JFK-CDG, it seems like there are 4 different flights available on AF on Classic award, but when I search on Delta, they only show one of the flights(AF 23)... is this something I have to call? or they don't release all inventories?
#1198
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For coach award travel non-stop JFK-CDG on 14 Dec for one traveler, EF shows available inventory on AF 23, 7, 11, and 9. Delta.com, searching for non-stops by schedule, shows only AF 23 (and DL 184).
Might you kindly investigate this discrepancy in availability as a point of sale or other problem? Thank you.
#1199
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,741
Paging ExpertFlyer Voice, please:
For coach award travel non-stop JFK-CDG on 14 Dec for one traveler, EF shows available inventory on AF 23, 7, 11, and 9. Delta.com, searching for non-stops by schedule, shows only AF 23 (and DL 184).
Might you kindly investigate this discrepancy in availability as a point of sale or other problem? Thank you.
For coach award travel non-stop JFK-CDG on 14 Dec for one traveler, EF shows available inventory on AF 23, 7, 11, and 9. Delta.com, searching for non-stops by schedule, shows only AF 23 (and DL 184).
Might you kindly investigate this discrepancy in availability as a point of sale or other problem? Thank you.
#1200
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, SC
Programs: AA Plat, SPG/Marriot Gold, HHonors Diamond, Hyatt Expl
Posts: 2,363
Paging ExpertFlyer Voice, please:
For coach award travel non-stop JFK-CDG on 14 Dec for one traveler, EF shows available inventory on AF 23, 7, 11, and 9. Delta.com, searching for non-stops by schedule, shows only AF 23 (and DL 184).
Might you kindly investigate this discrepancy in availability as a point of sale or other problem? Thank you.
For coach award travel non-stop JFK-CDG on 14 Dec for one traveler, EF shows available inventory on AF 23, 7, 11, and 9. Delta.com, searching for non-stops by schedule, shows only AF 23 (and DL 184).
Might you kindly investigate this discrepancy in availability as a point of sale or other problem? Thank you.