The Definitive "How To Search for Low Tier Business Awards"
#1951
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: SUX
Programs: BA Silver; HHonors Gold; SPG Gold; Points but dirt with everyone else
Posts: 8,050
Thanks. Good to know. Will look for a low dummy return and then change. If I can't find any low mileage flights will just keep looking. The return is from a different city but that shouldn't effect ability to change. Any chance the change could impact the mileage requirements on the front end flight - could it change to a mid or high mileage even though it was booked initially at low mileage?
#1952
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: SEA
Programs: Delta Plat, Hyatt Globalist, HIlton Diamond
Posts: 801
I just spent a bunch of time on the phone with the DL agent who was as nice as can be and spent a ton of time trying to figure out why I couldn't add an open AMS-BCN segment to my SEA-AMS, BIO-CDG-SEA itin even though it showed that it was available. IN the end, after spending 30 minutes with a supervisor and KLM, she said she couldn't add it because it was a married segment and the only way to do it would be to release the SEA-AMS section and try booking the whole thing as one search but of course there's no way to guarantee that once she releases the seats from SEA-AMS that she'll ever get them back.
I think I'm going to have to buy one-way tickets on Vueling from AMS-BCN. I don't see any other way around this. Anybody else have any ideas?
I think I'm going to have to buy one-way tickets on Vueling from AMS-BCN. I don't see any other way around this. Anybody else have any ideas?
#1953
Join Date: May 2008
Location: BOS/SIN
Programs: SQ
Posts: 2,704
You could HUACA until it works...
Or try to route through CDG and see if that works
I keep doing some dummy bookings on DL.dumb to OTP and it never works with the OTP segment added, but to AMS works fine
Or try to route through CDG and see if that works
I keep doing some dummy bookings on DL.dumb to OTP and it never works with the OTP segment added, but to AMS works fine
#1954
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Melbourne, Florida, USA
Posts: 2,983
#1957
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: SEA
Programs: Delta Plat, Hyatt Globalist, HIlton Diamond
Posts: 801
I've called a number of times and this last time the rep really tried to help. She didn't really understand the problem but even with a supervisor and KLM couldn't get it in.
I really don't understand the married segment rule. I can book this thing separately but I can't add it to my reservation? It doesn't make any sense.
I'd like to escalate this somehow but I'm not sure the best way. I'm aware my chances of getting a resolution are infinitely small but where would i start?
I really don't understand the married segment rule. I can book this thing separately but I can't add it to my reservation? It doesn't make any sense.
I'd like to escalate this somehow but I'm not sure the best way. I'm aware my chances of getting a resolution are infinitely small but where would i start?
#1958
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: SEA
Programs: Delta Plat, Hyatt Globalist, HIlton Diamond
Posts: 801
And strangely, it looks like they threw a connection into my reservation but it's just sitting there as "unconfirmed". I'm guessing this is a waitlist that'll never clear? I thought it might disappear overnight but its still there.
#1959
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: SFO, SJC
Programs: AS MVP 75K
Posts: 286
Award pricing gurus, need some inputs for Aug-Oct travel:
HKG-NRT (OD)
NRT-SFO (O)
SFO-NRT (O)
NRT-HKG (OD)
All Delta metal J, ticketed at 180,000. Delta rep tells me it's due to the more expensive HKG segments (OD).
a) Is it just a matter of checking often if a one-way HKG-NRT (and vv) segment in J shows up and prices at 45k (low intra-Asia segment), then calling to have my itin modified?
b) If the outbound segment has been flown, can the return still be re-priced should a low-priced NRT-HKG J seat free up? How many miles would be redeposited if that happens?
Thanks!
HKG-NRT (OD)
NRT-SFO (O)
SFO-NRT (O)
NRT-HKG (OD)
All Delta metal J, ticketed at 180,000. Delta rep tells me it's due to the more expensive HKG segments (OD).
a) Is it just a matter of checking often if a one-way HKG-NRT (and vv) segment in J shows up and prices at 45k (low intra-Asia segment), then calling to have my itin modified?
b) If the outbound segment has been flown, can the return still be re-priced should a low-priced NRT-HKG J seat free up? How many miles would be redeposited if that happens?
Thanks!
Last edited by wp_kid; Jul 17, 2013 at 12:34 am Reason: all Delta metal
#1960
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: SUX
Programs: BA Silver; HHonors Gold; SPG Gold; Points but dirt with everyone else
Posts: 8,050
Award pricing gurus, need some inputs for Aug-Oct travel:
HKG-NRT (OD)
NRT-SFO (O)
SFO-NRT (O)
NRT-HKG (OD)
All Delta metal J, ticketed at 180,000. Delta rep tells me it's due to the more expensive HKG segments (OD).
a) Is it just a matter of checking often if a one-way HKG-NRT (and vv) segment in J shows up and prices at 45k (low intra-Asia segment), then calling to have my itin modified?
b) If the outbound segment has been flown, can the return still be re-priced should a low-priced NRT-HKG J seat free up? How many miles would be redeposited if that happens?
Thanks!
HKG-NRT (OD)
NRT-SFO (O)
SFO-NRT (O)
NRT-HKG (OD)
All Delta metal J, ticketed at 180,000. Delta rep tells me it's due to the more expensive HKG segments (OD).
a) Is it just a matter of checking often if a one-way HKG-NRT (and vv) segment in J shows up and prices at 45k (low intra-Asia segment), then calling to have my itin modified?
b) If the outbound segment has been flown, can the return still be re-priced should a low-priced NRT-HKG J seat free up? How many miles would be redeposited if that happens?
Thanks!
I'm honestly not sure what will happen if you fly the outbound at medium and then the return opens up at low and you make the change. You might get nothing back, you might get 30K back, or you might get 10K back (pricing the outbound at 110K and the return at 60K).
#1962
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: SFO, SJC
Programs: AS MVP 75K
Posts: 286
#1963
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 2
Delta Business Class award travel BLR - JFK
Hi folks,
I'm new to the world of miles and points so posting here hoping for some expert advice:
I'm interested in booking 2 one-way Business class tickets between BLR - JFK. I have 50K skymiles points and can potentially convert 85K Amex MR to skymiles to get a total of ~120K miles - which i hope should be sufficient for my requirements.
I've heard it's more difficult to book award travel on Delta, compared to AA, United or US air..hence any advice will be great!
Thanks much.
I'm new to the world of miles and points so posting here hoping for some expert advice:
I'm interested in booking 2 one-way Business class tickets between BLR - JFK. I have 50K skymiles points and can potentially convert 85K Amex MR to skymiles to get a total of ~120K miles - which i hope should be sufficient for my requirements.
I've heard it's more difficult to book award travel on Delta, compared to AA, United or US air..hence any advice will be great!
Thanks much.
#1964
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Melbourne, Florida, USA
Posts: 2,983
Hi folks,
I'm new to the world of miles and points so posting here hoping for some expert advice:
I'm interested in booking 2 one-way Business class tickets between BLR - JFK. I have 50K skymiles points and can potentially convert 85K Amex MR to skymiles to get a total of ~120K miles - which i hope should be sufficient for my requirements.
I've heard it's more difficult to book award travel on Delta, compared to AA, United or US air..hence any advice will be great!
Thanks much.
I'm new to the world of miles and points so posting here hoping for some expert advice:
I'm interested in booking 2 one-way Business class tickets between BLR - JFK. I have 50K skymiles points and can potentially convert 85K Amex MR to skymiles to get a total of ~120K miles - which i hope should be sufficient for my requirements.
I've heard it's more difficult to book award travel on Delta, compared to AA, United or US air..hence any advice will be great!
Thanks much.
#1965
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: DL FO, UA, AA, AsiaMiles, SPG, HHonors
Posts: 7,982
Award pricing gurus, need some inputs for Aug-Oct travel:
HKG-NRT (OD)
NRT-SFO (O)
SFO-NRT (O)
NRT-HKG (OD)
All Delta metal J, ticketed at 180,000. Delta rep tells me it's due to the more expensive HKG segments (OD).
a) Is it just a matter of checking often if a one-way HKG-NRT (and vv) segment in J shows up and prices at 45k (low intra-Asia segment), then calling to have my itin modified?
b) If the outbound segment has been flown, can the return still be re-priced should a low-priced NRT-HKG J seat free up? How many miles would be redeposited if that happens?
Thanks!
HKG-NRT (OD)
NRT-SFO (O)
SFO-NRT (O)
NRT-HKG (OD)
All Delta metal J, ticketed at 180,000. Delta rep tells me it's due to the more expensive HKG segments (OD).
a) Is it just a matter of checking often if a one-way HKG-NRT (and vv) segment in J shows up and prices at 45k (low intra-Asia segment), then calling to have my itin modified?
b) If the outbound segment has been flown, can the return still be re-priced should a low-priced NRT-HKG J seat free up? How many miles would be redeposited if that happens?
Thanks!
1. Buy NRT-SFO-NRT in low J.
2. Monitor HKG-NRT and vv for low J, and also keep tabs on fare bucket availability or price for the RT. you can get this ticket as low as USD$200-250 in Y.
3. If HKG-NRT opens in low J, add it on. If it doesn't and the flight seems to be filling up, pay for it in Y and sit in EC.
IMO it is not worth the significant difference in miles to save USD$250 and sit in J HKG-NRT vs Y.