Your Next Cruise: Are you Having Second Thoughts Due to Fears of Pandemic?
#121
Join Date: May 2011
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If they are going to deny you boarding, you should be entitled to a refund. Note, I see they're trying to conserve cash and it is only in a form of credit.
Wonder which major cruiseco will be the first to run into cash crunch/go bankrupt.
Adding:
Also wondering if this is the equivalent of the May 1937 Lakehurst event for large cruise ships (i.e., a Hindenburg event).
Wonder which major cruiseco will be the first to run into cash crunch/go bankrupt.
Adding:
Also wondering if this is the equivalent of the May 1937 Lakehurst event for large cruise ships (i.e., a Hindenburg event).
Last edited by Randyk47; Mar 10, 2020 at 8:56 am
#122
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While I don’t see any of the major cruise lines going bankrupt yet I think the industry in general will be hurting big time if this crisis continues through the summer into the fall and worse yet into early next year. The virtual closing of Italy is going to take a huge bite out of the about to start Med cruise season and if it stays in place beyond the announced three or four weeks it will virtually stop the season. Hype and rubbish? Overreaction? Maybe but the reality is what it is.
India
China
Israel
Can any other countries be added to this list?
(BTW, I'm rooting for Hawaiian ports to be closed as well).
#123
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#124
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UPDATE: A passenger on Silversea’s Silver Spirit just posted to Facebook that Vietnam just closed its ports to cruise ships. Again second hand. The Spirit was already in a bit of a mess as it had been, before the port closings, on its way to India then UAE and eventually into the Med to start its Med season. As it was Silversea canceled those cruises and the Spirit was basically going to sail with only crew and staff for almost a month without paying passengers.
Last edited by Randyk47; Mar 11, 2020 at 6:59 am
#125
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Local pressure to close ports in B.C. (from the province's top health official) to cruise ships which will kill at least the early part of this upcoming Alaska season, unless PVSA is (at least temporarily and partly) suspended and the Victoria stop can be dispensed with. Likewise, the federal top health official has urged people not to go on cruises.
#126
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Hmm, just saw that a Viking river cruise ship is quarantined in Cambodia because of a sick passenger (I think they're still waiting on testing??) So if that's true, I could definitely see Cambodia seeing this as strike 2 (after Westerdam) and that river cruise started in HCMC, so if Vietnam is closed to ocean cruising, this could prompt a river cruise moratorium as well.....
#127
Join Date: Jan 2003
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...ps/5020325002/
Cruise Lines International Association (CLIA) submitted a plan to Vice President Michael Pence proposing enhanced measures across the industry as the coronavirus pandemic rages on, forcing two ships of passengers into quarantine and escalating fears on others.
According to the proposal, boarding should be denied to any person over the age of 70 years unless they are able to present a doctor's note verifying their fitness for travel on a cruise ship, according to a person familiar with the situation but not authorized to speak publicly.
According to the proposal, boarding should be denied to any person over the age of 70 years unless they are able to present a doctor's note verifying their fitness for travel on a cruise ship, according to a person familiar with the situation but not authorized to speak publicly.
#128
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Viking (River and Ocean) has elected to suspend all cruises and operations until the end of April.
https://www.cruise.blog/2020/03/viki...ue-coronavirus
https://www.cruise.blog/2020/03/viki...ue-coronavirus
#129
Join Date: Feb 2010
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First two sailing to Seattle have been cancelled not that the Grand Princess would make that sailing.
https://q13fox.com/2020/03/11/first-...irus-outbreak/
https://q13fox.com/2020/03/11/first-...irus-outbreak/
#130
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Princess Cruise sends all their ships to port for two months.
https://www.princess.com/news/notices_ and_advisories/notices/global-ship-operations-pause.html
https://www.princess.com/news/notices_ and_advisories/notices/global-ship-operations-pause.html
SANTA CLARITA, Calif (March 12, 2020) In proactive response to the unpredictable circumstances evolving from the global spread of COVID-19 and in an abundance of caution, Princess Cruises announced that it will voluntarily pause global operations of its 18 cruise ships for two months (60 days), impacting voyages departing March 12 to May 10.
#131
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Princess Cruise sends all their ships to port for two months.
https://www.princess.com/news/notices_ and_advisories/notices/global-ship-operations-pause.html
https://www.princess.com/news/notices_ and_advisories/notices/global-ship-operations-pause.html
#132
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Latest Princess cancellation policy - revised from previously revised one - much better policy but shortened covered period.
They cancel the next 60 days cruises effective immediately. Issued a revised cancellation policy.
<<We hope you will stick with us by selecting Option 1, and give our team a chance to shine at a later date by transferring money paid and accepting a significantly higher value future cruise credit that can be used on any voyage through May 1, 2022. For some, choosing the future cruise credit may not be financially possible, so we have Option 2 that is a combination of a refund and future cruise credit at lower value.>>
<<For those who are impacted by this business decision, Princess is offering guests the opportunity to transfer 100% of the money paid for their cancelled cruise to a future cruise of their choice. To add a bonus incentive for guests to accept this offer, the company will add an additional generous future cruise credit benefit which can be applied to the cruise fare or onboard expenses. In addition, Princess will honor this offer for those guests who had made final payment and cancelled their booking on or after February 4, 2020. The future cruise credit can be used on any voyage departing through May 1, 2022.>>
There is now an online form to submit the request - this makes it much easier than having to call. Though if booked thru Travel Agency. it still needs to be submitted by the travel agency. That means we still have to go thru Chase Ultimate Reward. Sigh.
CEO's message
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC1j...ature=youtu.be
https://www.princess.com/news/notice...ons-pause.html
https://www.princess.com/news/pdfs/v...operations.pdf
They cancel the next 60 days cruises effective immediately. Issued a revised cancellation policy.
<<We hope you will stick with us by selecting Option 1, and give our team a chance to shine at a later date by transferring money paid and accepting a significantly higher value future cruise credit that can be used on any voyage through May 1, 2022. For some, choosing the future cruise credit may not be financially possible, so we have Option 2 that is a combination of a refund and future cruise credit at lower value.>>
<<For those who are impacted by this business decision, Princess is offering guests the opportunity to transfer 100% of the money paid for their cancelled cruise to a future cruise of their choice. To add a bonus incentive for guests to accept this offer, the company will add an additional generous future cruise credit benefit which can be applied to the cruise fare or onboard expenses. In addition, Princess will honor this offer for those guests who had made final payment and cancelled their booking on or after February 4, 2020. The future cruise credit can be used on any voyage departing through May 1, 2022.>>
There is now an online form to submit the request - this makes it much easier than having to call. Though if booked thru Travel Agency. it still needs to be submitted by the travel agency. That means we still have to go thru Chase Ultimate Reward. Sigh.
CEO's message
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC1j...ature=youtu.be
https://www.princess.com/news/notice...ons-pause.html
https://www.princess.com/news/pdfs/v...operations.pdf
Last edited by Happy; Mar 12, 2020 at 9:53 am
#133
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Viking just announced they will suspend all operations thru Apr 30.
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/vikin...el-complicated
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/vikin...el-complicated
#134
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Viking just announced they will suspend all operations thru Apr 30.
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/vikin...el-complicated
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/vikin...el-complicated
https://www.vikingcruisescanada.com/...perations.html
#135
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 45
My parents are currently aboard Costa Luminosa, about 3 days away from Tenerife. IF Spain allows them to port (they were denied port in Antigua) I am wondering if Costa will just end the cruise right there - rather than continuing onto their other scheduled stops (Malaga and Marseille, they have already scrapped Italy and Croatia)