bicker

What part of "pointless to argue with you about it" was unclear?

With precisely and exclusively the "answers" you were hoping to see and nothing but - rationalizing your "preference ... to not signal [your] intent" rather than the need to be open and forthright, and the rather than the need to honor the guest's portion of the rules of hospitality. How incredibly coincidental.

Badenoch

Honor the rules of hospitality? LOL. Are those written down somewhere or do you just make them up?

My preference wasn't rationalized it was confirmed by my own research. What was also confirmed is your posts are wildly inaccurate.

Badenoch

It's a scheduling matter, the decision whether one or both of us departs at Halifax might not be known until after we've sailed.

bicker

No big surprise that someone so inclined toward transgression doesn't admit what they intend to transgress. What other transgressions do you refuse to admit because they're things you want to do? Traffic violations? Sexism? Financial reporting irregularities? Commission of violence? Where do you draw the line, after which doing what you want, when contrary to what you should do, becomes something you care about? Or is your code to get what you want by whatever means are necessary?

Badenoch

LOL. Leaving a cruise ship early is a "transgression?" Perhaps it is according to your peculiar "rules of hospitality" but certainly not to the people who actually own the boat.

bicker

You seem to have forgotten what it is you have been trying to rationalize in this thread:You made clear from the start that you were interested in being deceptive toward your host. That told us all we needed to know about the point of this thread, and the fact that you've hit on it over and over again, trying to gain a clear ratification for the transgression in which you want to engage, just makes that clearer and clearer.

Badenoch

It remains my preference as my plans might change after departure.

1Phillyflyer

My wife & I were on a Houston to Houston RT Western Carribbean and left the ship in Cozumel to fly home early for a family function. We had notified Princess prior to cruising and were told this would be no problem. The morning we arrived, our Folio was prepared and we departed as all others were getting off to enjoy the island. This us not a big issue. The cruise line will certainly accommodate you needs.

jcdelcamco

txirish

I ran into this exact situation on an Oceania Cruise. The final port was Los Angeles, but I needed to disembark in Honolulu to catch a flight for a business commitment. What I found was that the front-line staff weren't familiar with the process. Even the specialist I reached eventually implied that there was some onerous notification/permission process that might take days or longer. We booked the cruise without asking permission. Ultimately, the business thing got delayed and I didn't have to miss the last portion of the cruise. What I gleaned from the experience was:
- Since Honolulu does have immigration officials at the port, I could have legally entered the US. The cruise originated in a foreign port, so "cabotage" issues wouldn't arise.
- Ship security is unlikely to stop you if you disembark properly with your cruise card, even if you are dragging your roll-aboard behind you.
- Getting the real early departure story from the cruise line may require talking to a few people and some additional paperwork on their part.
I was prepared to just leave and take my chances with immigration if necessary. My wife was going to complete the cruise and would have informed the staff of my departure. Doubted they would put her in the brig for the remainder of the trip. Although I was looking forward to this mildly disobedient adventure, I was happier to get the additional week of pampering that I had already paid for.

Any refund for the portion of the cruise you didn't take part in is beyond unlikely.

brobin

To clarify, a foreign flagged carrier cannot carry passengers between US ports - even the same port on a roundtrip - without making port at another country first under the Jones Act. Both an MIA-MIA or SFO-MIA cruise must stop at a foreign destination somewhere along the the way. This is why you'll see that Alaska cruises going in and out of Seattle will have at least a half day stop in Vancouver or Victoria BC or a Seattle -San Diego cruise will stop in Ensenada. If the foreign stop is not made the cruise line pays a huge fine. NCL used to have to stop at Fanning Island (non-US) on their 7 day HNL-HNL cruise but Congress gave them special dispensation to eliminate the foreign stop by NCL agreeing to hire US citizens as crew and pay US wages and taxes even though the ship remains foreign flagged. Only a US flagged carrier like American Cruise Lines, can carry pax between US ports.
On a repositioning cruise from Montreal to Miami pax can get off earlier (like in Charleston or Port Canaveral) provided they embarked in a foreign country.

RoutingWonk

I just did a little searching because intuitively, it seems like you're entitled to do it. You're not travelling within the U.S. so the Jones Act (Cabotage rules) doesn't apply, you're a Canadian citizen so you don't have visa/immigration issues. It should just be a matter of paperwork that the correct people are informed in advance.

https://www.cruzely.com/can-i-get-of...-another-port/

Their post agrees with my take on the situation. The most salient detail from the article is terminology, they refer to it as taking a partial cruise (Royal Caribbean) or early disembarkation.

Good luck and please report back on your experience!

GeezerCouple

Not quite.

The required "stop in a distant foreign port" [specifically defined in some cases] is when a non-US-flagged ship is transporting passengers between two different ports, such as LA to Miami. (That "distant foreign port" is often a stop in South America, such as Cartagena; the ABC islands also "count".)
If it is a round trip (e.g., Miami-Miami), then the "distant foreign port" isn't necessary.

The NCL Pride Of America, sailing the 7-day Hawaii cruise is not a foreign flagged ship. She is US-flagged.
She is thus also allowed to carry passengers between different US ports on a non-round trip. I think this was most recently done about a year or two ago, after renovations in SFO, on the return to HNL, for example.
(The Fanning Island "fix" was needed before NCL has ships that were US-flagged.)

The Jones Act is for cargo, prohibiting non-US-flagged ships from transporting cargo directly between two different US ports. (This recently caused some extra difficulties for Puerto Rico, in terms of getting supplies from the US mainland to the Island.)
The Passenger Vessel Services Act (PVSA) applies these same restrictions to passengers.
https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/det...l-services-act

GC

Snuggs

Cruised w RCL from Ft Lauderdale to Rome and advised them in advance of wishing to disembark in Genoa (next to last stop). It all seemed like more trouble than I thought it should have been, but worked out fine. RCL said that pre-departure notice was crucial. No offer of a discount, and they "declined" our request. Hope this helps

747FC

A factor that I have not seen discussed: Passports are normally embargoed by the cruise ship, and not returned until the day before debarkation. Someone who desires to make a "quick getaway," offering little notice to the crew, could be in for some disappointment.