Stop the cruise I want to get off
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I contacted the CBSA and a couple of cruise lines to get the official answer from them. I'll post the info when I get it.
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Going through the proper channels - and finding out the actual answers - is the way to go to help smooth the way no matter what.
As you, and many of us responding, have pointed out, you aren't a prisoner on the ship.
But there IS the matter of making the situation easier rather than guaranteeing some (or much) difficulty at the time by catching everyone off guard.
Also, by contacting several cruise lines, you may well find they vary in terms of how simple/easy the process will be, even if it's just finding the right person/department to handle the details for you. If you don't already have a specific cruise/itinerary/cruise line in mind, then this could be a good way to choose, at least for this particular cruise "to" Halifax
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Also, by contacting several cruise lines, you may well find they vary in terms of how simple/easy the process will be, even if it's just finding the right person/department to handle the details for you. If you don't already have a specific cruise/itinerary/cruise line in mind, then this could be a good way to choose, at least for this particular cruise "to" Halifax
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Yes: Consider yourself fortunate if they even agree to have you officially disembark the cruise in Halifax.
It's a cruise ship, not a city bus.
Correct. That's why I said "officially". If a passenger wants to just pack their stuff and carry everything off themselves, likely no one will stop them (except perhaps local authorities - not every port is set up for customs), and with that itinerary there likely won't be any ramifications, since that itinerary isn't subject to PVSA. However, if you do that on an itinerary that is subject to PVSA, you can expect to see a fine passed along to you on your credit card.
It's a cruise ship, not a city bus.
Correct. That's why I said "officially". If a passenger wants to just pack their stuff and carry everything off themselves, likely no one will stop them (except perhaps local authorities - not every port is set up for customs), and with that itinerary there likely won't be any ramifications, since that itinerary isn't subject to PVSA. However, if you do that on an itinerary that is subject to PVSA, you can expect to see a fine passed along to you on your credit card.
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You get off a city bus at the predetermined locations by letting the driver know just before you reach the stop. In this regard, the cruise ship is very much like a city bus.
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Here's the rules for Royal Caribbean https://www.royalcaribbean.com/faq/q...cruise-request Should be similar for Celebrity as they are the same parent company?
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If a passenger wants to just pack their stuff and carry everything off themselves, likely no one will stop them (except perhaps local authorities - not every port is set up for customs), and with that itinerary there likely won't be any ramifications, since that itinerary isn't subject to PVSA. However, if you do that on an itinerary that is subject to PVSA, you can expect to see a fine passed along to you on your credit card.
Here's the rules for Royal Caribbean https://www.royalcaribbean.com/faq/q...cruise-request Should be similar for Celebrity as they are the same parent company?
Requests for security clearance concerning late boarding or early departure must be submitted in writing to the Guest Flight Operations office for consideration at least one week prior to sail date.
Prepaid gratuities will be added to all approved reservations for the length of cruise.
Prepaid gratuities will be added to all approved reservations for the length of cruise.
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Here's the rules for Royal Caribbean https://www.royalcaribbean.com/faq/q...cruise-request Should be similar for Celebrity as they are the same parent company?
After contacting the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) and three cruise lines including the one I may sail the results are surprisingly mundane.
It is apparently quite common for passengers and crew to leave a ship before it reaches its final destination due to staff reassignments, entertainers leaving, changes in travel plans, family emergencies, medical issues, etc.
The CBSA said all that is required is to inform them upon arrival of your intentions and the passenger would undergo the same screening as any other border entry to Canada. Their cruise ship facility in Halifax is open from 8am to midnight. They confirmed a Canadian citizen would not be prevented from entering the country under any circumstance.
The answers from the cruise lines were generally similar although it was a challenge finding someone to speak with who was knowledgeable and could answer questions. I spent a lot of time on hold.
They agreed it was quite typical for people to leave before the final destination. A passenger does not need “approval” to depart or written permission. They could accommodate a final departure at any time but stressed that earlier notice would be appreciated and paperwork would make the process smoother but not impossible.
There was no mention of additional fees for an entry into Canada and they dismissed any suggestion that a passenger who wanted off would be prevented from leaving the ship. They did make clear however that once disembarked I would not be allowed to return and was entirely on my own regarding customs and ground transportation, etc.
The advice received was specific to an entry into Canada by a Canadian from a ship that originated outside of the U.S.A. There are different regulations for other countries, nationalities and itineraries. Check with your line and the relevant government authorities.
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Notification is appreciated, undoubtedly makes the process smoother for all concerned and the sooner the notice the better. However, those posters who suggested that "permission" is required, that one would be "fortunate" if the line allowed an early disembarkation or possibly prevented from leaving the vessel would appear to be misinformed.
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We're not. We made very clear the context of our comments. Your knee-jerk reaction, blind to the conditions we've outlined, makes me think you're maniacally hell-bent on believing what you want to believe and doing what you want to do without regard to anything else, which is why it is pointless to argue with you about it. At this point, all that's important is that your misinformation and bravado not afflict the understanding of casual readers who may come upon this thread in the future.
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We're not. We made very clear the context of our comments. Your knee-jerk reaction, blind to the conditions we've outlined, makes me think you're maniacally hell-bent on believing what you want to believe and doing what you want to do without regard to anything else, which is why it is pointless to argue with you about it. At this point, all that's important is that your misinformation and bravado not afflict the understanding of casual readers who may come upon this thread in the future.
Contrary to your statement there's no reason to feel "fortunate" and the cruise lines are quite agreeable to an official disembarkation. Having done the research it is evident that early disembarkation is quite easy, a regular occurrence and easily achieved for a Canadian at Halifax. I suspect there has been more drama in this thread than the actual event itself. My questions are answered.
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