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Old Nov 6, 2015, 11:03 pm
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Current welcome offer is 50,000 30,000 Crystal points with $5,000 $3,000 spending in the first 90 days. First annual fee not waived. (as of telephone call with bank employee 8/7/2019)

Past bonuses were:

***** #1502 - signup bonus 1/16/18 BUT ANNUAL FEE NOT WAIVED ******

100,000 points after spending $5,000 in first three months. Offer expires 30 December 2015. EXPIRED

A 70,000 points offer was offered back in March 2017 and expired March 31st, 2017. EXPIRED

The requirements for the application process varies from bank to bank based on various online data points collected from FlyerTalk, Doctor of Credit, etc.

Some banks require that you go into a branch and apply personally. Other banks want you to have another account open for 90 days before you can get this card. Some banks (if you already have a relationship with them) let you apply via mail. Sometimes you have to be a resident of the state they operate in, while some were able to get the card without living in those states. It is very much YMMV. You will need proof of income (W2, check stubs, etc). The only states City National Bank operates in are: NY, DE (only trust office, no go), DC, GA, TN, MN, NV & CA. The bank is looking for high net worth individuals, but that's not exactly consistent either.

The card has no foreign transactions fees and is fee-free the first year, then $400 annually.

Register your card for online access (cno.cnb.com). This changed on Sept 19 2019.
Register separately for the award page (www.cnbrewards.com).
Register for Visa Infinite info and access at https://myvisainfinite.com/cnb/en_us/home.html
Click "my info" to see details on points awarded.
Best* redemption found to date is $1,000 prepaid visa for 105K pts. It's now 125K pts for a $1,000 prepaid visa. Link to catalog
*(other than spending for flights etc. & getting 1.2 cents each in value)

To set-up spending alerts, create an account here : http://citynationalbank.digitalcardservice.com

Point redemptions for flights have been reported as being as high as 1.35cpp (see here) by calling the Concierge service at +1 800 595 8950 and having them book direct from airline website for you

Significant benefits:

$250 per calendar year airline incidental credit - works on AU card as well - STARTING JAN 1ST, 2020 THE CREDIT WILL BE $350 PER ACCOUNT
$100 Global Entry fee credit - works on AU card as well Per DDResq post 842
Priority Pass lounge membership for up to 2 people. No fee for any number of guests, but lounge policy may limit the number of guests admitted.- STARTING JAN 1ST, 2020 EACH ADDITIONAL GUEST BEYOND ACCOUNT HOLDER WILL BE CHARGED $32
12 GoGo inflight passes - create an account at myvisainfinite.com/cnb. Once the account is created, you enter, then search for GoGo passes. You then input your card number again, create a GoGo account if you don't have one, and the 12 passes post to it ready to be used when you fly again on a participating airline. - works on AU card as well
$100 off when you book a qualifying airline itinerary via visa discount air portal (https://www.visadiscountair.com/CNB/default.aspx - STARTING JAN 1ST, 2020 THIS WILL NO LONGER BE OFFERED AS A BENEFIT
$30 off GroundLink car service (works with AU cards as well) plus instant 15% off rides. There are $25 current user referrals to go for first.

Airline fees are reimbursed up to $250 per calendar year. Fees must be from domestic carriers. There is no need to declare a carrier, and fees can be reimbursed from multiple carriers. Partial Ts and Cs:

Qualifying Airline Purchases are defined as incidental airline fee transactions made at eligible US Domestic Airline Carriers and include: ticket change/cancellation fees, checked baggage fees, inflight entertainment, onboard food and beverage charges, airport lounge membership fees and day passes, onboard wireless charges (excluding Gogo Wireless), and TSA Pre✓® membership application fee.


What works
AA: Award Fees/Taxes, Award Redeposit Fees ($150)
AA: e-Gift cards $250 including AUs (1x per card max 4)
AS: Award ticket fees, $16
AS: In flight food, entertainment.
AS: Premium Class Upgrade, $59

HA: Interisland Flight, $48.80
UA: award ticket fees, $51
WN: Award Fees/Taxes, Award Redeposit Fees (limit unknown, but it's between $75 and $80 per transaction), Early Bird boarding fees ($15)
DL: Baggage fees
B6: $53.30 airfare

What doesn't work
AS: Award ticket fees, $130ish
DL: GC; PGGM (reports of not working since April/2016)
DL: Just about anything. Don't use on Delta
UA: MPX, Award Fees (~$170)
UA: Gift card registry (up to $75) (No longer working as of 11/25/17)
UA: Seat Selection Fee
WN: GC
EY: Award Fees
TW: Change fee
UO: Seat fee
AA: Award Fees/Taxes on an itinerary originating outside the US.

To Be Confirmed
UA: Award Redeposit Fees ($200)


Global Entry reimbursements: (works on AU also)

user - mnsweeps ( https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29336509-post1549.html )

Used mine and a AU card to register for GE for in laws
01/17/201801/18/2018USCUSTOMS TRUSTEDTRAVELER$100.00
01/17/201801/18/2018USCUSTOMS TRUSTEDTRAVELER$100.00

Credit posted today for both cards.
01/20/201801/24/2018GLOBAL ENTRY STMT CREDIT $100.00
01/20/201801/24/2018GLOBAL ENTRY STMT CREDIT $100.00

In 2016, 2017 AND 2018 airline incidental credits for transactions on-or-after January 1st did not start posting until the third week of January. In 2019 they started posting on Jan 11th.

For further information, see this

STARTING JAN 1ST, 2020 there are going to be major changes to this card, these being:[/s]
  • $350 airline incidental credit per account (was $250 per AU)
    • $95 Annual Fee per AU
      • $32 per guest using PriorityPass (used to be free & unlimited)
        • Elimination of $100 Visa Air Discount Benefit
          • Groceries and Gas only earn 1x (used to be 3x)

Sources:

discussion starting here

https://www.cnb.com/content/dam/cnbc...ewards2020.pdf
https://www.cnb.com/content/dam/cnbc...rystal2020.pdf


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Old Dec 12, 2018, 1:55 pm
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Join Date: Nov 2018
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Originally Posted by therookie
Can someone tell me how long it takes to receive the card after approval? My banker is adamant the card cannot be expedited and will take 10 business days. However, I live in LA where I believe they are headquartered.

I have to submit my AUs upon approval, anyone have any datapoints on how long it takes for AU cards to be mailed?

Thank you.
Mine (primary card) was arrived the next day after it's approved and production... FedEx next day.
AU cards will take longer but typically within a week.
Good luck.
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Old Dec 12, 2018, 2:11 pm
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Thanks simonlhf - did you request expedited shipping? or it was just default shipped Fedex overnight?
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Old Dec 12, 2018, 2:14 pm
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I don't remember but i did have a few conversations (emails) with my banker asking for the approval status etc. Maybe he expedited but not sure.
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Old Dec 12, 2018, 7:42 pm
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Originally Posted by iNFEKT
Nope per the wiki they may not post til next year
Is this common knowledge? Maybe I'm dumb but I don't see it in the wiki.

Got my first travel rebate on 12/4 for a $250 gc that posted on 11/28. Waiting for the rebate to post on my second gc that posted on 12/7.
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Old Dec 12, 2018, 11:14 pm
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Is it Global Entry credit AND 250 airline incidental credit per AU? Some of the literature is a little confusing making it sound like Global Entry credit is part of the 250 airline credit. Thanks
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Old Dec 12, 2018, 11:33 pm
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Join Date: Dec 2018
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Applied in person at a branch. Was approved after 2-3 days, waiting for cards to arrive.

The application asked for income, amount in savings/checking accounts, and amount in any additional "liquid" non retire accounts such as Equity investments.
No idea what the "min requirements" are for each of those and whether or not you actually have to put anything down for savings/investments.

Was also asked to submit either recent paystub or W2 and what bank I normally use. Did not need to provide any actual bank info besides the name of the bank. No idea if/how they verified anything else besides my credit with a credit check and my income with the paystub.

You can sign up for AUs at the same time. Need a copy of the AUs driver license, their social, and mother's maiden name. Was told this info was just for identification purposes if the AUs call in or show up at a branch. No credit pull for AUs. Was able to assign both Priority lounge passes to 2 AUs as part of the application since i already have a Priority lounge pass.
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Old Dec 13, 2018, 3:34 pm
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I was approved and got my card soon after on 11/30. I purchased $250 in AA eGift card on 12/6 and posted 12/10. Rebate posted 12/13

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Old Dec 13, 2018, 3:58 pm
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Join Date: Sep 2018
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I don't want to post the details but can someone please confirm through DM how they purchased their GCs? I need to buy them really soon...
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Old Dec 13, 2018, 5:43 pm
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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Originally Posted by bigballer
Is this common knowledge? Maybe I'm dumb but I don't see it in the wiki.

Got my first travel rebate on 12/4 for a $250 gc that posted on 11/28. Waiting for the rebate to post on my second gc that posted on 12/7.

Wiki is elsewhere, free feel to look at the comments around this time last year. There is a huge delay in processing rebates as there is a ton more purchase activity and this is done by hand @CNB.

To everyone else here that is clearly late to the game, do people seriously think they're going to take accounts that are a matter of months old, and they're gonna hit 3 or 4 GCs in a one or two month period? I mean go for it, so long as you go in with the expectation that you probably aren't going to get reimbursed for all of them, these rebates are processed manually they're not going to approve 4 similar/exact amounts all on one or two purchase cycles, this is typical behavior banks look out for fraud. Seems like the end is gonna be near on this one. I mean whether people here are greedy or not isn't my problem, but if you're about to drop $1000 on GCs in a cycle or two take a look at the DPs in this thread, don't expect to get it all if any back, thats just not how things go here, just know what you're getting yourself into.
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Old Dec 13, 2018, 9:35 pm
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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Originally Posted by Noahf989
DP on Primary card:

$250 AA eGC purchased on Nov 30, Posted on Dec 03
$250 Rebate processed on Dec 04, Posted on Dec 06

Just purchased 3 x $250 for AA eGC for AU, will update once the credit posted.
Exactly the kind of a cardholder no body wants. Banks love shutting abusers and benefits down, you are the reason why they end programs.

I agree with banks that shut down the abusers and not the program, why should we all pay for the few that cannot use any restraint or common sense?
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Old Dec 14, 2018, 3:01 pm
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Join Date: Apr 2009
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Originally Posted by dreamspeed
Is it Global Entry credit AND 250 airline incidental credit per AU? Some of the literature is a little confusing making it sound like Global Entry credit is part of the 250 airline credit. Thanks
If you look at the main application page, it clearly states GE is in addition to airline credit, but is probably for only main card holder. What you might be confusing is TSA PreCheck. It *appears* to include precheck (only) as part of the airline credit, so you could do that for each AU. In addition, the footnote specifies 1-$100 credit for GE every four years.
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Old Dec 14, 2018, 5:08 pm
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What does PGGM stand for? I googled a lot, seems the origin of this term is Dan's deals. Got a general idea of what it is but still don't know what do the letters stand for...
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Old Dec 14, 2018, 6:13 pm
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Originally Posted by rct12345
What does PGGM stand for?
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30517817-post1914.html
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Old Dec 15, 2018, 1:15 am
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Thanks
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Old Dec 15, 2018, 9:24 pm
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Join Date: Dec 2018
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Applied

I have a question.. I applied on Thursday and the banker told me I’d find out on Friday. My credit was pulled Friday morning (got an alert from Experian), but the banker told me Friday near close of business that it’s still processing and I’ll probably find out on Monday. If they pulled my credit Friday morning (around 9 am) and by Friday evening around 5 pm it was still processing, is that a good sign? Would they have declined it by then if it wasn’t going to be approved? Or, am I still in the 50/50 boat?

Thanks.
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