USA contactless credit/debit/transit (2014-2016)
Mar 1, 2016, 5:33 pm
#3406
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My local grocery chain, Giant (owned by Ahold, as well as Stop & Shop and Giant PA), recently installed Verifone MX915 terminals. Contactless and EMV are not (yet) enabled, but I expect them to given how tech-oriented they've been lately with their mobile apps, mobile scanning, et al.
Mar 1, 2016, 6:17 pm
#3407
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Nope they upgraded to MX915's, but NFC was disabled the last time I tried to use it, but now since credit cards should be accepted you'd think contactless support is not too far away. I'm pretty sure contactless is enabled at Aldi in many countries such as the UK and Germany, so why not here.
Mar 1, 2016, 7:01 pm
#3408
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Nope they upgraded to MX915's, but NFC was disabled the last time I tried to use it, but now since credit cards should be accepted you'd think contactless support is not too far away. I'm pretty sure contactless is enabled at Aldi in many countries such as the UK and Germany, so why not here.
Mar 1, 2016, 8:25 pm
#3409
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Cultural considerations? Electronic signature capture was pretty common pre-EMV too. Also, maybe the MX915 has P2PE/tokenization support in the US with their acquirer while the VX820 does not?
Mar 2, 2016, 11:50 am
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BevMo seems to be at least starting to support EMV and NFC now, according to my map and MasterCard's. Location down the street from me is on the latter and another on the other side of the state got added to the former. Is it at all of them yet?
(BTW their website is acting up but I think MasterCard's updated today or yesterday.)
(BTW their website is acting up but I think MasterCard's updated today or yesterday.)
Mar 2, 2016, 11:56 am
#3411
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. It'd be weird to define culture based on what card terminal to use. However C&S seems to prefer on screen over paper signatures so I could see why. Many places are preferring to opt for on screen signature, including my doctor.
Mar 2, 2016, 12:01 pm
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Speaking of that, it really should be over $100 and not $50. Stuff is getting more expensive in general.
Mar 2, 2016, 6:57 pm
#3413
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Those also don't really deal with transactions over $50 either. The culture thing comes into play because at the places that do, people expect to sign on a LCD screen and not a piece of paper anywhere that's not a restaurant and that's larger than the corner bodega.
Speaking of that, it really should be over $100 and not $50. Stuff is getting more expensive in general.
Speaking of that, it really should be over $100 and not $50. Stuff is getting more expensive in general.
Mar 2, 2016, 8:01 pm
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That is and the screen is resistive. That can't be good over time and I'm sure in a year the screen will look all scuffed up from people having to sign with their fingernail.
Mar 2, 2016, 8:07 pm
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I had a taxi ride in Vegas recently where the screen was present in the seat back, but disabled in favor of the driver's handing me a slip to sign from his machine.
Mar 2, 2016, 8:30 pm
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Mar 3, 2016, 12:19 pm
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Local In-N-Out fell off the MasterCard map, so that's that. I bet they don't implement EMV at all, come to think of it--it would explain why the terminals are cashier facing now anyway.
In better news, I did find a Baskin Robbins location on there, so perhaps they're rolling out their new setup now.
In better news, I did find a Baskin Robbins location on there, so perhaps they're rolling out their new setup now.
Mar 3, 2016, 12:57 pm
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Local In-N-Out fell off the MasterCard map, so that's that. I bet they don't implement EMV at all, come to think of it--it would explain why the terminals are cashier facing now anyway.
In better news, I did find a Baskin Robbins location on there, so perhaps they're rolling out their new setup now.
In better news, I did find a Baskin Robbins location on there, so perhaps they're rolling out their new setup now.
Mar 3, 2016, 1:12 pm
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Not necessarily. They probably wanted a semi-integrated setup to take their POS out of scope for PCI and possibly wanted to do NFC too. Then they found out that their POS vendor will never do NFC or something without brand new POSes. (No idea if that's indeed the case but their POSes do seem kinda old.) In-N-Out then concludes it's not worth the money and since they don't want to slow down lines for no benefit, EMV stays off too. Which considering their low transaction values and how fast food is pretty low risk right now fraud-wise is probably the best move.