The dust has settled - which hotel credit card is now king?
#181
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
Programs: Hyatt, Fairmont, SPG, AA, WN
Posts: 102
Holy moly! The IHG card seems like it may be a no-brainer! Mid-tier status + free night no restrictions more than makes up for the card...even if I don't use it that much..
Mid tier at other brands is nice too. Nice that there is chance of better room/upgrade. Disappointed that breakfast isn't necesarilly available comp with the status. But the main thing is offsetting the AF and IHG seems to do that but.......how is the availability with the Hyatt? I'm not familiar, but Marriott is 1-5 and 1-5 is nothing I would ever use. Does Hyatt 1-4 ever include anything in a city?
I am definitely eyeing the IHG card.
It makes me feel like these cards are so much better than the Marriott Premier......
Mid tier at other brands is nice too. Nice that there is chance of better room/upgrade. Disappointed that breakfast isn't necesarilly available comp with the status. But the main thing is offsetting the AF and IHG seems to do that but.......how is the availability with the Hyatt? I'm not familiar, but Marriott is 1-5 and 1-5 is nothing I would ever use. Does Hyatt 1-4 ever include anything in a city?
I am definitely eyeing the IHG card.
It makes me feel like these cards are so much better than the Marriott Premier......
Some Hyatt Cat 4's are equivalent to IHG Cat 9's.
This also includes great cat 4 resort properties such as:
Hyatt Coconut Point Resort
Andaz Costa Rica
#182
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: FL
Programs: AA EXP, Hyatt Diamond, SPG Plat, IC Plat Amb, HH Diamond, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 1,299
Hyatt 1-4's includes most major "cities" including, Boston, Vegas, Austin, Toronto, Seattle, Chicago, D.C., San Fran, Denver, Tampa, Miami, ATL, etc.
Some Hyatt Cat 4's are equivalent to IHG Cat 9's.
This also includes great cat 4 resort properties such as:
Hyatt Coconut Point Resort
Andaz Costa Rica
Some Hyatt Cat 4's are equivalent to IHG Cat 9's.
This also includes great cat 4 resort properties such as:
Hyatt Coconut Point Resort
Andaz Costa Rica
I have both. But if I were to have only 1 it would be IHG for sure.
#183
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2014
Programs: Top Tier with all 3 alliances
Posts: 11,672
Here is my list:
1. Ritz Carlton visa, for $395 gives you Marriott Gold (free breakfast), Priority Pass lounge access (you plus one guest), and $300 credit for incidentals.
2. Hyatt, Marriott, Hilton Citi Reserve, and IHG all equally good.
1. Ritz Carlton visa, for $395 gives you Marriott Gold (free breakfast), Priority Pass lounge access (you plus one guest), and $300 credit for incidentals.
2. Hyatt, Marriott, Hilton Citi Reserve, and IHG all equally good.
#185
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: LAX
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, AA EXP, Hilton Diamond, Wyndham Diamond, DL PM, Marriott Platinum, IHG Platinum
Posts: 1,305
I have both the Plat and Citi HHonors. I got Reserve because of the annual free night after 10K spending (the signup bonus does not hurt) and 3x on spending. So, every year, you get a free night and every other year you can get 2 free nights (one with certificate and the other with points). Amex Plat is mostly for Centurion lounges and GoGo passes.
#186
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: CT/ Germany - Ich spreche deutsch
Programs: UA 1K, Bonvoy LTTE, HH Dia, HY Expl
Posts: 4,657
Holy moly! The IHG card seems like it may be a no-brainer! Mid-tier status + free night no restrictions more than makes up for the card...even if I don't use it that much..
Mid tier at other brands is nice too. Nice that there is chance of better room/upgrade. Disappointed that breakfast isn't necesarilly available comp with the status. But the main thing is offsetting the AF and IHG seems to do that but.......how is the availability with the Hyatt? I'm not familiar, but Marriott is 1-5 and 1-5 is nothing I would ever use. Does Hyatt 1-4 ever include anything in a city?
I am definitely eyeing the IHG card.
It makes me feel like these cards are so much better than the Marriott Premier......
Mid tier at other brands is nice too. Nice that there is chance of better room/upgrade. Disappointed that breakfast isn't necesarilly available comp with the status. But the main thing is offsetting the AF and IHG seems to do that but.......how is the availability with the Hyatt? I'm not familiar, but Marriott is 1-5 and 1-5 is nothing I would ever use. Does Hyatt 1-4 ever include anything in a city?
I am definitely eyeing the IHG card.
It makes me feel like these cards are so much better than the Marriott Premier......
If your strictly looking at which card gets you the best bang for your annual fee it is a good card because you can use it at ANY hotel. (That is until they devalue the card benefits because they've gutted the program so much that that's the only place they can save any more)
#187
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: FL
Programs: AA EXP, Hyatt Diamond, SPG Plat, IC Plat Amb, HH Diamond, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 1,299
If your expecting or even hoping for a room upgrade as an IHG Platinum I think you will be left disappointed. Sure it can happen but in my experience it is very rare.
If your strictly looking at which card gets you the best bang for your annual fee it is a good card because you can use it at ANY hotel. (That is until they devalue the card benefits because they've gutted the program so much that that's the only place they can save any more)
If your strictly looking at which card gets you the best bang for your annual fee it is a good card because you can use it at ANY hotel. (That is until they devalue the card benefits because they've gutted the program so much that that's the only place they can save any more)
#188
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: ATL
Programs: DL, Marriott
Posts: 728
I've had good luck with Marriott, even when i was gold (then again, I always ask)...so I figured if mid-tier upgrades were as plentiful with mid-tier IHG, it'd be nice. but still...the night alone def makes up for it.just gotta get through all my other minimum spends first.
#189
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 908
I have:
Chase Hyatt (got the 2 free nights. Used it for Park Hyatt in Paris, and Milan. They both run for about $700+). Some are getting targeted with the 50k Hyatt points + 5k for AU. This might be better for like the Park Hyatt Hochiminh, Vietnam which is Cat 4. You can get 3 nights with the 50k points.
Citi Reserve (got the 2 free nights. Used it for Hilton in Venice. Keeping it, put $10k spend a year to get the 1 free night)
AMEX Surpass (got the 80k points, and use this card to get Hilton points)
AMEX SPG
I had:
Chase Fairmont (got 2 free nights, Stayed at The Savoy in London. Canceled after the AF hit. I should have kept it. You do get an annual free night, and upgrade / breakfast certs).
Chase Marriot (got the 70k points. Canceled after the AF hit)
Cards I want to apply for:
IHG (trying to save my hard inquiries. Probably won't apply for a CC within the next 6 months)
Wyndam (I would want to apply for this, but Barclay is pretty strict. I already have 3 barclay card, probably won't get approve.
Cards I won't apply for:
Carlson
Chase Hyatt (got the 2 free nights. Used it for Park Hyatt in Paris, and Milan. They both run for about $700+). Some are getting targeted with the 50k Hyatt points + 5k for AU. This might be better for like the Park Hyatt Hochiminh, Vietnam which is Cat 4. You can get 3 nights with the 50k points.
Citi Reserve (got the 2 free nights. Used it for Hilton in Venice. Keeping it, put $10k spend a year to get the 1 free night)
AMEX Surpass (got the 80k points, and use this card to get Hilton points)
AMEX SPG
I had:
Chase Fairmont (got 2 free nights, Stayed at The Savoy in London. Canceled after the AF hit. I should have kept it. You do get an annual free night, and upgrade / breakfast certs).
Chase Marriot (got the 70k points. Canceled after the AF hit)
Cards I want to apply for:
IHG (trying to save my hard inquiries. Probably won't apply for a CC within the next 6 months)
Wyndam (I would want to apply for this, but Barclay is pretty strict. I already have 3 barclay card, probably won't get approve.
Cards I won't apply for:
Carlson
#190
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 225
Club Level too!
Club Level 3x/year is a huge benefit that pays for the card many times over if you'll use it. Cheers.
#191
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: LAX
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, AA EXP, Hilton Diamond, Wyndham Diamond, DL PM, Marriott Platinum, IHG Platinum
Posts: 1,305
I have:
Chase Hyatt (got the 2 free nights. Used it for Park Hyatt in Paris, and Milan. They both run for about $700+). Some are getting targeted with the 50k Hyatt points + 5k for AU. This might be better for like the Park Hyatt Hochiminh, Vietnam which is Cat 4. You can get 3 nights with the 50k points.
Citi Reserve (got the 2 free nights. Used it for Hilton in Venice. Keeping it, put $10k spend a year to get the 1 free night)
AMEX Surpass (got the 80k points, and use this card to get Hilton points)
AMEX SPG
I had:
Chase Fairmont (got 2 free nights, Stayed at The Savoy in London. Canceled after the AF hit. I should have kept it. You do get an annual free night, and upgrade / breakfast certs).
Chase Marriot (got the 70k points. Canceled after the AF hit)
Cards I want to apply for:
IHG (trying to save my hard inquiries. Probably won't apply for a CC within the next 6 months)
Wyndam (I would want to apply for this, but Barclay is pretty strict. I already have 3 barclay card, probably won't get approve.
Cards I won't apply for:
Carlson
Chase Hyatt (got the 2 free nights. Used it for Park Hyatt in Paris, and Milan. They both run for about $700+). Some are getting targeted with the 50k Hyatt points + 5k for AU. This might be better for like the Park Hyatt Hochiminh, Vietnam which is Cat 4. You can get 3 nights with the 50k points.
Citi Reserve (got the 2 free nights. Used it for Hilton in Venice. Keeping it, put $10k spend a year to get the 1 free night)
AMEX Surpass (got the 80k points, and use this card to get Hilton points)
AMEX SPG
I had:
Chase Fairmont (got 2 free nights, Stayed at The Savoy in London. Canceled after the AF hit. I should have kept it. You do get an annual free night, and upgrade / breakfast certs).
Chase Marriot (got the 70k points. Canceled after the AF hit)
Cards I want to apply for:
IHG (trying to save my hard inquiries. Probably won't apply for a CC within the next 6 months)
Wyndam (I would want to apply for this, but Barclay is pretty strict. I already have 3 barclay card, probably won't get approve.
Cards I won't apply for:
Carlson
#192
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: LAX
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, AA EXP, Hilton Diamond, Wyndham Diamond, DL PM, Marriott Platinum, IHG Platinum
Posts: 1,305
I thought Ritz CC offered Lounge Club, which is quite different than PP offered with Citi Prestige and Amex Plat.
#193
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 25,934
The other thing to understand is that Club Carlson points are "calibrated" about double of most other hotel programs (ie, you earn 20 points/$ [not counting any card] on paid stays, not 10 like a Marriott, IHG, Hilton, etc). So 85k sign up is really comparable to 43k with another hotel card. 40k annual bonus is really comparable to 20k with another hotel card.
And Carlson has a relatively small footprint, with hotels in cities requiring a huge number of points, and then the hotels that require a decent number of points being in scattered places on the fringes of cities (and often not costing much in cash).
So I'm sitting on 250k+ Club Carlson points (from Club Carlson rich promos a few years ago, plus occasional 8000ish points Avis car rental promos), and for a few years I've checked on each trip whether there's a Club Carlson hotel that would work for me on points and so far I haven't found one (given that I have points in lots of other programs too).
#194
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 908
I applied for the carlson, was denied. They are too strict. I guess it's a good thing. I heard they devalued, and no more free anniversary night.
#195
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 23
Club Carlson definitely still has value. I have both the business and personal cards, and while not the amazing deal it was, the annual night with $10,000 spend is nice. With two cards, spend $10,000 each, and end up with two nights good at any US property (for a weekend in NYC or Chicago for us), and 180,000 points (40,000 for renewal + 50,000 for spend on each card). If you're MSing, that's $335 cost ($100 MS fees per card + $60 annual fee + $75 annual fee) for two nights at $200/night+ hotels and 180,000 points, which I value at 0.4c = $720.