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Old Jan 2, 2017, 9:16 am
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Ways to get high rewards or bonus on credit card spending:

1. sign-on bonus, miles, UR or MR points, free nights and cash rewards
2. on-going rewards, points or cashback
3. spending bonus for extra points/$ or status, like spending $10,000 to get extra 20k points etc.

Cards with large spending bonus: (alphabetical)

AmEx Delta Skymiles Gold: $25,000 MQD waived for elite status
AmEx HH Ascend: $40,000 to Diamond
Barclay Aviator Red: $25,000 for $3,000 EQD
BofA Merrill +: $50,000 for additional $200 travel credit
Chase Ritz Carlton: $10,000 to renew Gold status. Subject to change from 8/1/2018
Chase United MileagePlus Explorer: $25,000 for 10,000 United miles
A lot more to list...

Cards that earn better than 1 airline mile (or points convertible 1:1 to airline miles) per dollar: (alphabetical)

Amex Blue Business Plus - 2x MRs on up to $50k per year. No AF, FTF.
Amex Blue for Business - 1.3x MRs (Another card needed in order to transfer, such as Amex ED/EDP/PRG/BGR/Plat etc). No AF, FTF. Discontinued, replaced by BBP.
Amex Business Platinum - 1.5x for charges over $5,000 up to 1M extra points ($2M spend) AF $450, no FTF. Many other perks.
Amex EveryDay - 1.2x if you make 20+ charges per cycle. No AF, FTF.
Amex EveryDay Preferred - 1.5x if you make 30+ charges per cycle. AF $95, FTF.
Bank of America Virgin Atlantic MasterCard - 1.5x VS miles, 2x if you spend $15k per year, 2.1x if you spend $25k per year. AF $90, no FTF.
Bank of America Air France KLM Mastercard - 1.5x AF miles. AF $89, no FTF.
Barclaycard Arrival Premier - 1.43x for all partners except JAL, AC (1.18x). You will get 2.14x on all partners except JAL, AC (1.76x), if you spend $15k or $25k per year. AF $150, FYF, no FTF. Discontinued.
Capital One Venture X Visa - 2x on all partners, except Accor and EVA. AF $395, no FTF, many other perks.
Capital One Spark Miles Business Visa - 2x on all partners, except Accor and EVA. AF $95, FYF, no FTF.
Capital One Venture Visa - 2x on all partners, except Accor and EVA. AF $95, FYF, no FTF.
Capital One Venture One Visa - 1.25x on all partners, except Accor and EVA. no AF, no FTF.
Capital One Spark Miles Select Business Visa - 1.5x on all partners, except Accor and EVA. No AF, no FTF.
Chase Freedom Unlimited Visa - 1.5x URs (Another card needed in order to transfer, such as CSR/CSP/Ink Plus/Ink Bold/Ink Preferred). No AF, FTF.
Chase Ink Unlimited Business Visa - 1.5x URs, Same as Freedom Unlimited
Citi Double Cash MC - 2x TYP. You need a premium Citi card, (Premier, Prestige or Chairman) to transfer to partners other than JetBlue at 1:1 ratio. No AF, FTF.


Cards that earn hotel points

Amex Hilton Honors - 3x HH points, no AF, no FTF
Amex Hilton Honors Surpass - 3x HH points, AF $95, no FTF, some perks
Amex Hilton Honors Business - 3x HH points, AF $95, no FTF, some perks
Amex Hilton Honors Aspire - 3x HH points, AF $450, no FTF, lots of perks.
Amex Bonvoy - 2x Marriott points. AF $95, FYF, no FTF. Discontinued.
Amex Bonvoy Business - same as Amex Bonvoy. AF $125, no FTF.
Amex Bonvoy Brilliant - same as Amex Bonvoy. AF $450
Barclaycard Choice Privileges Visa - 2x on everything. No AF, FTF.
Barclaycard Wyndham Rewards Visa - 2x (grandfathered versions 2x on everything). AF $69/$0, FTF.
Chase Bonvoy Boundless Visa - same as Amex Bonvoy.
Chase IHG Traveler MC - 2x on everything. No AF, no FTF.
Chase IHG Premier/Premier Business MC - 3x on everything. AF $99, no FTF.
Chase Ritz-Carlton Visa Infinite - same as Amex Bonvoy. AF $450, no FTF. Discontinued, but can be obtained via PC from another Chase Bonvoy card.
FNBO Best Western Rewards Premium MC - 2x BW points. AF $59, no FTF
FNBO Best Western Rewards MC - 2x BW points. No AF, no FTF

2%+ Cashback Cards: (by % amount)

US Bank Altitude Reserve Visa - 4.5% towards travel (cashout possible), if you use Android Pay, Samsung Pay, Apple Pay or LG Pay for in-person, in-app or online purchases. AF $400, no FTF, many other perks.
Barclaycard Priceline Rewards Visa (grandfathered 2x/5x version) - 3.33% if redeemed against Priceline or travel purchases, 2% if redeemed for everything else. No AF, no FTF.
AOD CU Visa Signature - 3% on everything. No AF, no FTF. Discontinued.
Synchrony Paypal Cashback Mastercard - 3% if paid with Paypal, 2% everywhere else, no AF, FTF.
Barclaycard Arrival Premier MC - 3% if you spend exactly $15k or $25k, 2%, if you spend less than $15k. AF $150, FYF, no FTF, some perks. Discontinued.
Bank of America Travel Rewards Visa (with Platinum (Honors) Preferred Rewards) - 2.25/2.625%. No AF, no FTF.
Bank of America Premium Rewards Visa (with Platinum (Honors) Preferred Rewards) - 2.25/2.625%. AF $95, no FTF, some perks.
Bank of America Premium Rewards Elite Visa (with Platinum (Honors) Preferred Rewards) - 2.25/2.625%. AF $550, no FTF, many other perks.
USAA Limitless Cashback Rewards Visa - 2.5% (must be USAA member, with $1k direct deposit per month). no AF. Discontinued.
Alliant Cashback Visa Signature - 2.5% up to $10k per cycle, if you have $1k on your checking account. No AF, no FTF.
Barclaycard Arrival Plus MasterCard - 2.1% if you redeem for travel purchases. AF $89, no FTF. Discontinued.
Discover it Miles - 3% (first year only, 1.5% after that). No AF, no FTF.

Exactly 2% Cashback Cards: (alphabetical)

Amex Blue Business Cash - 2% on up to $50k per year. No AF, FTF.
BBVA Compass Rewards Visa - 2%, if you receive $1000 in direct deposits per month to checking account. No AF.
Blispay Visa - 2%. No AF.
Citi Double Cash MasterCard - 2%. No AF, FTF.
Capital One Spark Cash Business Visa - 2%. AF $95, FYF, no FTF.
Capital One Spark Miles Business Visa - 2% if redeemed for travel. AF $95, FYF, no FTF.
Capital One Venture Visa - 2% if you redeem for travel purchases. AF $95, FYF, no FTF.
Capital One Venture X Visa - 2% if you redeem for travel purchases. AF $395, no FTF, many other perks.
Fidelity Rewards Visa - 2%. No AF.
PenFed Power Cash Rewards Visa (with Honors Advantage) - 2%. No AF, no FTF.
PNC Premier Traveler Visa - 2% if you redeem for travel purchases. AF $85, FYF, no FTF.
State Department Federal CU Premium Cashback+ Visa - 2%, no AF, no FTF.
Synchrony Paypal Cashback MC - 2% for non-PayPal purchases, no AF, FTF.
Too many to list.













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Old Feb 18, 2015, 4:34 pm
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About to make a big purchase - need cc advice

I'm about to purchase a set of diamond stud earrings for my wife (about 4500), and wanted to use a credit card to take advantage of the points. I already have the Chase Sapphire, but which other card would you recommend to give me the best bang for my buck. APR doesn't matter as I am going to pay off the card immediately.

I usually prefer cards for travel, but I am open to any advice you have. Thanks.
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Old Feb 18, 2015, 4:59 pm
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Obviously, you need the Citi Diamond Preferred card (j/k).
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Old Feb 18, 2015, 6:05 pm
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About to make a big purchase - need cc advice

Offer to pay in cash for a 3% discount. Much better than points...
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Old Feb 18, 2015, 6:11 pm
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10k Spend options

I looked around a bit and couldn't find any clear guidance.

i'm going to be spending about $10,000 in the next couple weeks on a home remodel and looking for the best CCs with good returns.

I would prefer cash/credit over miles but would take miles for the right value.

Thanks in advance
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Old Feb 18, 2015, 6:52 pm
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Originally Posted by r.brown
Offer to pay in cash for a 3% discount. Much better than points...
The problem with this is, do you really want to forego the protections that a CC gives you for such a large purchase?

Gaining pts is great and all, but I'd be more interested in a card that offers return protection, as well at protection against losses and theft for as long as possible. Also, if these are brand-name things with advertised prices (as opposed to something custom-made), price protection would be nice.

If you don't need any of this stuff (ie, if you are buying from someone who you know won't hassle you for returns and you are buying insurance anyway) I'd try for a 5% discount. 3% is really not enough.
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Old Feb 18, 2015, 7:35 pm
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No way - the Citi Hilton Honors Reserve would be the preferred card as the $4,500 spent would help you to earn Diamond status.

Originally Posted by u2g0d
Obviously, you need the Citi Diamond Preferred card (j/k).
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Old Feb 18, 2015, 8:38 pm
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About to make a big purchase - need cc advice

How about one of the offers out there that are offering a big bonus to take a new card (and spend x,000 in 90 days? I think American is now offering 30 or 50k, I've personally gotten 50k from United and if memory serves, 40k from USAir. My rule of thumb is to figure out where I need the miles and look for their offers, even if I have to take a second card from the same bank. First year is almost always free too.
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Old Feb 19, 2015, 2:45 am
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Originally Posted by r.brown
Offer to pay in cash for a 3% discount. Much better than points...
Actually, with the absurd markup on diamonds, you may be able to offer cash for a 30% discount. I did this when I bought my wife's diamond studs.
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Old Feb 19, 2015, 5:42 am
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The cash idea is great and may work, but I was planning on buying the earrings through one of the online dealers such as Blue Nile.
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Old Feb 19, 2015, 6:55 am
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Originally Posted by ugaDAWGS09
The cash idea is great and may work, but I was planning on buying the earrings through one of the online dealers such as Blue Nile.
In which case make sure to go through a cashback portal for Blue Nile. You'll get points/miles from whatever credit card you use plus the cashback.
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Old Feb 19, 2015, 8:09 am
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Originally Posted by shinjukuflyer
In which case make sure to go through a cashback portal for Blue Nile. You'll get points/miles from whatever credit card you use plus the cashback.

Can you please explain what you mean by cashback portal?
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Old Feb 19, 2015, 12:12 pm
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Originally Posted by ugaDAWGS09
The cash idea is great and may work, but I was planning on buying the earrings through one of the online dealers such as Blue Nile.
If you are buying online, then definitely use a card that gives you return protectoin and price protection. Citi offers this on all their mastercards, and I think Amex offers it on all their cards.

Price protection is great; if they have a sale in a couple of months you will get refunded the difference. The only problem is that Citi has a $300 per purchase limit with their price rewind (the price difference could very well be bigger than that). I'm not sure about Amex. I think that any World Elite MC (possibly World as well?) has this protection built in also.

You can do this in addition to a cashback or miles portal; the card you use for the purchase does not need to match the portal in any way. Cashbackmonitor is a good way to compare what you will get from different portals (eg for Blue Nile: http://www.cashbackmonitor.com/Cashb...ore/Blue-Nile/) These portal earnings are in addition to whatever cashback/miles/pts your CC gives you for the purchase.

For example, AA is currently giving 3 miles per $1. If you don't already have a AA Platinum card from Citi, you could apply for it, and put the purchase on that card after going through the AA portal. You would get:

Sign-up bonus: 50k miles after $3k spent; you would meet the min with the purchase.
Purchase: 4500 miles
Portal: 13,500 miles

Total = 68k miles. That is, for example, more than enough for a first class one-way flight to Japan on JAL.

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Old Feb 19, 2015, 7:52 pm
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Originally Posted by ugaDAWGS09
Can you please explain what you mean by cashback portal?
Yeah, as VegasGambler's post above mine explains, go to the Cashback Monitor page to see who offers the best deal for Blue Nile. Then that portal will take you through to the Blue Nile website, and whatever you spend will earn you cashback per the portal's terms. But be careful, if you're planning on using some other coupon code or discount deal, then your purchase might not qualify for the cashback. It all depends on the terms.

I wish I had known about cashback portals when I bought a ring from Blue Nile a couple of years ago!
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Old Feb 21, 2015, 8:31 pm
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Originally Posted by trickless
My suggestion would be to crystallize your ideas around the vacation, get specific on locations, and approach your CC enrollment with those goals.

I also would say that, assuming you're comfortable with it, you should maximize your signup bonuses. 3-4 cards. The ones I mentioned already are decent choices, but it really depends on your plans. Signup bonuses should be in the ~$500 range after some spend. 3 of those is ~$1500. 30k of spend * 2% (minimum you should be getting back) = $600. So $2k-3k should be your goal on what you get from your planned spend, in my opinion. That's a nice start towards a great vacation.

Good luck.
thinking of bora bora for the honeymoon

came across this: http://www.frugaltravelguy.com/2014/...for-87-20.html

thoughts on above? obviously doesn't have to be exactly that frugal, but any help from miles/rewards would decrease the $ spent
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Old Feb 27, 2015, 10:41 pm
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20k purchase. best card

Thoughts on which card is best for a $20k doctor bill? Leaning toward using a chase freedom to get 10% bonus since I have the checking and convert to ultimate rewards. Not sure if there is a better option with an annual accelerator on spend. Can't use Amex. Thanks
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