Best place to spend winter during a potential second wave of COVID?
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Brazil has now reopened for tourism, under pre-covid rules.
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Timatic is now showing Brazil as open, but with this restriction: "Passengers with a maximum stay of 90 days must have a medical insurance coverage for the duration of their stay."
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Brazil could turn out to be a viable option. Perfect weather and the currency is pretty weak at the moment.
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The currency isn't the only thing that's weak.
I can't imagine looking at all the available options and choosing the one with the second-highest number of total covid-19 cases and the second-highest number of total covid-19 deaths in the world.
I can't imagine looking at all the available options and choosing the one with the second-highest number of total covid-19 cases and the second-highest number of total covid-19 deaths in the world.
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Point is, Brazil is a massive country made of many states, some rich, others poor, so you can still find pockets of the country where the virus has not hit so hard. Rural parts will have escaped much of the pandemic. Even within the cities there will be huge differences. The densely populated favelas have borne the brunt of the cases, whereas richer Brazilians have been able to selectively apply their own personal lockdowns. That said, two members of my family have caught the disease, so nobody is immune...
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Point is, Brazil is a massive country made of many states, some rich, others poor, so you can still find pockets of the country where the virus has not hit so hard. Rural parts will have escaped much of the pandemic. Even within the cities there will be huge differences. The densely populated favelas have borne the brunt of the cases, whereas richer Brazilians have been able to selectively apply their own personal lockdowns. That said, two members of my family have caught the disease, so nobody is immune...
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Having said all that, I would not be willing to take the risk myself, mainly because I like cities and all the social aspects Brazil is famous for. The idea of having to keep a social distance does not appeal!
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If someone is not willing to social distance and take precautions, paradoxically, their best bet is a place that takes the pandemic seriously and keeps the infections low, as this environment will keep them safe and keep the lifestyle going...
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If Singapore and Qatar statistics - I will let you go and check on your own - will give some clue, it is that covid for men in the age 20-40 y/o is much less lethal compared for people in their 80s with underlying health conditions.
But we all know that this and other statistics will do nothing to convince others because everyone already made up thir mind with the ‘truth’ and reality they are comfortable with.
P.S. Answering the topic question - Singapore and other SEA countries would be a good places weather wise, but I would cross them off entirely. Especially Singapore. In addition to lockdown and de-facto travel ban for the local population, the current measures also include that to enter any building/place one must scan QR code which transmits to government server full personal details of the person. You do the same when you leave the building. So you want to get coffee from Starbucks inside mall - do the procedure 4 times. The next step is to give everyone in the country electronic bluetooth tag they must carry all the time.
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Hello from Singapore.
If Singapore and Qatar statistics - I will let you go and check on your own - will give some clue, it is that covid for men in the age 20-40 y/o is much less lethal compared for people in their 80s with underlying health conditions.
But we all know that this and other statistics will do nothing to convince others because everyone already made up thir mind with the ‘truth’ and reality they are comfortable with.
P.S. Answering the topic question - Singapore and other SEA countries would be a good places weather wise, but I would cross them off entirely. Especially Singapore. In addition to lockdown and de-facto travel ban for the local population, the current measures also include that to enter any building/place one must scan QR code which transmits to government server full personal details of the person. You do the same when you leave the building. So you want to get coffee from Starbucks inside mall - do the procedure 4 times. The next step is to give everyone in the country electronic bluetooth tag they must carry all the time.
If Singapore and Qatar statistics - I will let you go and check on your own - will give some clue, it is that covid for men in the age 20-40 y/o is much less lethal compared for people in their 80s with underlying health conditions.
But we all know that this and other statistics will do nothing to convince others because everyone already made up thir mind with the ‘truth’ and reality they are comfortable with.
P.S. Answering the topic question - Singapore and other SEA countries would be a good places weather wise, but I would cross them off entirely. Especially Singapore. In addition to lockdown and de-facto travel ban for the local population, the current measures also include that to enter any building/place one must scan QR code which transmits to government server full personal details of the person. You do the same when you leave the building. So you want to get coffee from Starbucks inside mall - do the procedure 4 times. The next step is to give everyone in the country electronic bluetooth tag they must carry all the time.
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why avoid Singapore?
Hello from Singapore. Answering the topic question - Singapore and other SEA countries would be a good places weather wise, but I would cross them off entirely. Especially Singapore. In addition to lockdown and de-facto travel ban for the local population, the current measures also include that to enter any building/place one must scan QR code which transmits to government server full personal details of the person. You do the same when you leave the building. So you want to get coffee from Starbucks inside mall - do the procedure 4 times. The next step is to give everyone in the country electronic bluetooth tag they must carry all the time.
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I don't understand your point? Avoid Singapore because of electronic monitoring? I can think of # countries which are doing better coping with covid-19 because of electronic monitorig - Taiwan, South Korea & China. Why are you better off to avoid it?? I understand ethical issues viz-a-viz civil liberties. But if I have to choose between pubic health and civil liberties, I know where I am going!
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Hello from Singapore.
If Singapore and Qatar statistics - I will let you go and check on your own - will give some clue, it is that covid for men in the age 20-40 y/o is much less lethal compared for people in their 80s with underlying health conditions.
But we all know that this and other statistics will do nothing to convince others because everyone already made up thir mind with the ‘truth’ and reality they are comfortable with.
P.S. Answering the topic question - Singapore and other SEA countries would be a good places weather wise, but I would cross them off entirely. Especially Singapore. In addition to lockdown and de-facto travel ban for the local population, the current measures also include that to enter any building/place one must scan QR code which transmits to government server full personal details of the person. You do the same when you leave the building. So you want to get coffee from Starbucks inside mall - do the procedure 4 times. The next step is to give everyone in the country electronic bluetooth tag they must carry all the time.
If Singapore and Qatar statistics - I will let you go and check on your own - will give some clue, it is that covid for men in the age 20-40 y/o is much less lethal compared for people in their 80s with underlying health conditions.
But we all know that this and other statistics will do nothing to convince others because everyone already made up thir mind with the ‘truth’ and reality they are comfortable with.
P.S. Answering the topic question - Singapore and other SEA countries would be a good places weather wise, but I would cross them off entirely. Especially Singapore. In addition to lockdown and de-facto travel ban for the local population, the current measures also include that to enter any building/place one must scan QR code which transmits to government server full personal details of the person. You do the same when you leave the building. So you want to get coffee from Starbucks inside mall - do the procedure 4 times. The next step is to give everyone in the country electronic bluetooth tag they must carry all the time.
Death isn’t the only consequence of being hit by this virus. Damage short of death also happens to a contingent of people who are well below traditional retirement ages. Healthcare matters even for those who are unlikely to die from COVID-19. Even for those who aren’t going to get hit hard by this virus.