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Old Mar 11, 2020, 8:19 pm
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US Department of Homeland Security Announcement: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/03/11/...l-proclamation
Whitehouse.gov Proclamation (more detail): https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/presidential-actions/proclamation-suspension-entry-immigrants-nonimmigrants-certain-additional-persons-pose-risk-transmitting-2019-novel-coronavirus/

Sec. 5. Effective Date. This proclamation is effective at 11:59 p.m. eastern daylight time on March 13, 2020. This proclamation does not apply to persons aboard a flight scheduled to arrive in the United States that departed prior to 11:59 p.m. eastern daylight time on March 13, 2020.
Section 1. Suspension and Limitation on Entry. The entry into the United States, as immigrants or nonimmigrants, of all aliens who were physically present within the Schengen Area during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States is hereby suspended and limited subject to section 2 of this proclamation.

For purposes of this proclamation, the Schengen Area comprises 26 European states: Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, and Switzerland

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March 11, 2020(WASHINGTON) Today President Donald J. Trump signed a Presidential Proclamation, which suspends the entry of most foreign nationals who have been in certain European countries at any point during the 14 days prior to their scheduled arrival to the United States. These countries, known as the Schengen Area, include: Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, and Switzerland. This does not apply to legal permanent residents, (generally) immediate family members of U.S. citizens, and other individuals who are identified in the proclamation.

Won't affect lawful permanent resident, spouse of US citizen/PR, .... (see list of exceptions below, taken from whitehouse.gov link above)
Sec. 2. Scope of Suspension and Limitation on Entry.

(a) Section 1 of this proclamation shall not apply to:

(i) any lawful permanent resident of the United States;

(ii) any alien who is the spouse of a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident;

(iii) any alien who is the parent or legal guardian of a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident, provided that the U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident is unmarried and under the age of 21;

(iv) any alien who is the sibling of a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident, provided that both are unmarried and under the age of 21;

(v) any alien who is the child, foster child, or ward of a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident, or who is a prospective adoptee seeking to enter the United States pursuant to the IR-4 or IH-4 visa classifications;

(vi) any alien traveling at the invitation of the United States Government for a purpose related to containment or mitigation of the virus;

(vii) any alien traveling as a nonimmigrant pursuant to a C-1, D, or C-1/D nonimmigrant visa as a crewmember or any alien otherwise traveling to the United States as air or sea crew;

(viii) any alien

(A) seeking entry into or transiting the United States pursuant to one of the following visas: A-1, A-2, C-2, C-3 (as a foreign government official or immediate family member of an official), E-1 (as an employee of TECRO or TECO or the employee’s immediate family members), G-1, G-2, G-3, G-4, NATO-1 through NATO-4, or NATO-6 (or seeking to enter as a nonimmigrant in one of those NATO categories); or

(B) whose travel falls within the scope of section 11 of the United Nations Headquarters Agreement;

(ix) any alien whose entry would not pose a significant risk of introducing, transmitting, or spreading the virus, as determined by the Secretary of Health and Human Services, through the CDC Director or his designee;

(x) any alien whose entry would further important United States law enforcement objectives, as determined by the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Homeland Security, or their respective designees, based on a recommendation of the Attorney General or his designee;

(xi) any alien whose entry would be in the national interest, as determined by the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Homeland Security, or their designees; or

(xii) members of the U.S. Armed Forces and spouses and children of members of the U.S. Armed Forces.

(b) Nothing in this proclamation shall be construed to affect any individual’s eligibility for asylum, withholding of removal, or protection under the regulations issued pursuant to the legislation implementing the Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, consistent with the laws and regulations of the United States.
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 9:41 am
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Which one? Considering that Just Read The Instructions is at SpaceX... however Sleeper Service would really help us right now...

P.S. it is an insider joke.
Insider jokes like this are usually discouraged on public forums, but perhaps one can allow it for special circumstances.
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 9:54 am
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Why? I don’t think the job of a health secretary involves treating (or visiting) patients. In the US, Azar isn’t even an MD, he’s a lawyer.
yeah, but they visit hospitals, clinics, etc. since PR is a big part of their job.
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 10:10 am
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The US-EU travel ban is expected to last through 2021, experts now say
There comes a point where the economic damage from such a ban has adverse consequences for healthcare too and is its own risk to the life and well-being of the public. That’s why this ban won’t last through 2021. That is unless the death rates turns out to be much higher than seems to be the case so far even in the worst hit places.
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 10:10 am
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One would think that a health secretary would know how to avoid getting infected and that government leaders would be subject to a strict protection regime to protect the decision making process.
You can reduce risk but with enough exposure anyone can catch the virus. The health minister is a human being just like the rest of us. One could argue that her job as a minister and MP puts her in contact with a lot of people each day and hence increases her risk.

If there was a way to ‘avoid getting infected’ you think that wouldn’t have shared with the rest of us?

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Your testing regime was just changed, according to the newspaper of record, The Sun:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/110539...s-test-how-uk/



I guess that’s one way to “flatten” the curve.
That has already been discussed above. I suspect that this would be similar to most other countries at this phase of the panendemic. (South Korea a notable exception). I suspect in Italy the well and mildly ill patients are no more being tested but rather being asked to stay at home.

One effect of testing only ill people in hospital is that the positivity rate will increase even if infection rate drops.
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 10:29 am
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AP reporting foreigners in UK expected to be banned for entry into US

https://apnews.com/6052e677cfc38b76224eccddb9f36eb0

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Old Mar 14, 2020, 10:38 am
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I assume the ban does not apply to accredited foreign diplomats and their families and staff?
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 10:45 am
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VPOTUS just announced UK will be included in the US travel ban.
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 10:46 am
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Originally Posted by seawolf
AP reporting UK nationals expected to be banned for entry into US

https://apnews.com/6052e677cfc38b76224eccddb9f36eb0
More on this:

Coronavirus: US travel ban on 26 European countries comes into force
- Which European countries are affected by the US travel ban?

In all, travel is suspended for 30 days from 26 Schengen countries - 22 European Union members and four non-EU. They are Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden and Switzerland.


Mr Trump said the UK's exemption had been made on the advice of "a group of professionals" but could be reviewed because the number of cases had "gone up fairly precipitously over the last 24 hours". -
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 10:46 am
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Originally Posted by Vangrovsky
I assume the ban does not apply to accredited foreign diplomats and their families and staff?
I would expect same exception criteria as with the China/Schengen ban
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Originally Posted by angra
VPOTUS just announced UK will be included in the US travel ban.
Yup starting Monday night - UK and Ireland added to the list.
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 10:48 am
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Originally Posted by angra
VPOTUS just announced UK will be included in the US travel ban.
Ireland, too, from what I hear.
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 10:49 am
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I would expect same exception criteria as with the China/Schengen ban
Yes, same. Pence said on live briefing Americans & residents who are admitted are “encouraged” to self-quarantine ... (I watched it from Live CNN).
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 10:52 am
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Originally Posted by seawolf
AP reporting UK nationals expected to be banned for entry into US

https://apnews.com/6052e677cfc38b76224eccddb9f36eb0
That isn’t what the article says.

The White House is expected to announce that the U.S. will broaden its European travel ban, adding the United Kingdom and Ireland to its list.”

It will apply to any foreign nationals (other than GC, family, some other exclusions) that were in the UK, Ireland in the las5 14 days.


UK nationals were already banned if they had spent time in the Schengen area. In the other hand, a Brit in Canada (for example) will still be able to come to the US if they weren’t back home during the last 14 days.
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 10:58 am
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Yes, same. Pence said on live briefing Americans & residents who are admitted are “encouraged” to self-quarantine ... (I watched it from Live CNN).
POTUS said that they would be tested. None of that actually seems to be happening.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/14/w...#link-1ebe8e36

As thousands of Americans flee from Europe and other centers of the coronavirus outbreak, many travelers are reporting no health screenings upon departure and few impediments at U.S. airports.

Since January, officers from Customs and Border Protection have been on heightened alert for travelers who might spread the virus. The Department of Homeland Security has told employees to look for physical symptoms, search through travel documents and review a federal tracking database.

But travelers, including some who say they showed visible signs of illness, say screening has been lax. Members of Congress this week grilled senior Homeland Security officials over what some described as a porous screening process.
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 11:04 am
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Coronavirus travel ban to be extended to UK and Ireland from 04:00 GMT on Tuesday (midnight EST on Monday).
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