The sad thing is that I'll have to go back to 2 carry on's. Mrs SG found me a roller bag a while ago that holds my computer, work papers and clothing for 3 - 4 days and the bag fits, wheels out, in EVERY CO overhead compartment I've tried it in, including the 735 over 2AB. Of course, not one of the dimensions would fit the new sizer. I don't anticipate any problems in MSY but I can sure se them coming in EWR and IAH. Now I'll go to the backpack for the computer and papers and a compliant bag for the overhead. What a PITA. :td::td::td:

If a sizer like this is enforced on CO even for elites, I can promise them my travel on CO will go to absolute ZERO. This will be an ethics/business practices issue with me... rejecting a rollerbag just like the ones used by many flight crew members (e.g. TravelPro 22" that fits straight in the bin) for absolutely no justifiable reason would be the mark of an extremely dishonest company. I don't do business with those type companies.

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Whoa. I have trouble fitting a Mac Book Air in that quasi-compartment. :rolleyes:

Next time you measure it; measure the overall outside dimensions including anything that sicks out like wheels and handles. Unless your travel pro 22 shrank from being x-rayed too many times, you will find it to be well over 23" tall and almost 15" wide. No wonder it does not fit in the sizer template.

Note that a lot of CO employees carry the same bag so its not fair that they can bring it on board and you might be asked to check your identical bag, not because it won't fit in the overhaed bin but because it doesn't fit their fee generating template.

Of course CO employees are not subject to the one bag and one personal item rule either which is why so many of the bins in the front of the plane are full when you are one of the first revenue PAX to board. The non -revs and crew have claimed their turf first. The crew can't get off the plane until after all PAXs have departed so why can't their bags (already tagged crew) start off as gate checked to be returned to them on the jetway immediately after the the last PAXs deplane?

Well, the only non-revs that would be pre-boarded would be deadheaders.

I wouldn't be opposed to gate check/return for my bag but, I do keep my (FAA required) manual in there and if they lost my bag or sent it to bag claim, they could have a massively delayed flight by no fault of mine.

Thanks for reminding me to fix the TravelPro dimension in post #131. The actual minimum thickness is 9.75" instead of 9" I had measured the bag at the top and not at the bottom where the wheels and curb guard stick out an extra 0.75"

looks like I'll add a piece of paper on which I've printed the airline's specific restrictions, and a paper tape measure to my carry-on ... if it meets the specific measurements listed but doesn't fit the sizer I'm damn well not gonna check it.

I'd be a fan of the sizer if it didn't have the 1" shortage thanks to the tubing that was mentioned earlier. I bring a rollaboard that fits the dimensions and fits in the overhead bins just fine, but if passengers bring odd-sized stuff (hockey sticks, rolled up tubes, who knows what else) that fit the 45" rule but don't fit in the sizer, it then becomes a problem when they lay their stuff along the back of the bin and my rollaboard can't go all the way in. I also hate when people toss their coats in any which way - keep it in your seat until everyone has boarded, THEN if there's room go ahead and put it up top!

Bag enforcement is Needed
 

1. Reduce boarding time domestically, especially for the Kettles who like to pack their entire freaking house... its really REALLY annoying when they struggle to bring their motor homes down the aisle.

2. I always check my garment bag with no problems or delays. Every week from BWI to IAH to Bergstrom to EWR to MIA... No problems...

3. A GREAT many fellow FFs can't seem to understand how to travel light.... Military folks do it all the time.... Why cant we?

4. I firmly believe the flight crews should enjoy the big bag exception.... Everyone else check your bags and tote your carry ons. Most of us have to wait for the bloody Rental car bus anyway. Your bags will arrive in that time.

Sheesh.

Amen!

You are not the only one struggling to reconcile.... My view is that lost luggage with CO is a rarity thanks to their use of RFID technology... they scan bags on being checked in and scan bags on arrival.... GAs and BAs are aggressively scanning Bar Code thingys assigned to your bag which allows CO to precisely know where your bag is located.

Damage to luggage happens... if you are a FF, surely you can afford another piece of Samsonite (can't ye?). Luggage are made to be beat up... it serves to PROTECT precious cargo.... Invest properly....

I have never owned a rollaboard and must almost always check luggage due to the equipment/materials I travel with for work.

I would very much welcome a limitation on cabin luggage although in my four decades of flying I have seen the gate luggage sizer used once or perhaps twice, and that was on AA.

Everything is in the application of the rules and I have a tough time seeing the GA's methodically checking everyone's carry-on in the sizer given the time constraints of boarding the a/c.

I carry my entire office complete with accessories in my Targus laptop bag. If ya gotta carry a lot of papers, I would suggest either scanning them into PDFs. Also ask your companies for smaller version of the laptops you carry... I see folks carrying Desktop Laptop computers instead of real laptop computers.... This is a big difference when travelling... I know, I used to carry a desktop laptop computer....

Desktop Laptop is for desktops... not travel.

I fly with a computer backpack that easily fits under the seat in front of me - I don't stow it in the overhead unless I'm sitting at a bulkhead and required to do so. It's squishy and conforms nicely to the underseat area.

I've stuck it inside some cubbyhole-type sizers, and it squishes to fit. But in a metal-frame open sizer, it is obviously too "thick" and sticks out of the sides. I'm hoping that this won't get me in trouble - it is smaller than most carry-on suitcases, flexible in shape, fits under the seat, but might not pass a sizer. And I'd be really unhappy to gate-check a backpack full of my electronics, business papers, and essentials.

I assume the backpack-wearers will be ignored, but I'm wary of any systemwide (especially TSA-enforced) sizer policy.

That isn't what RFID technology is. And the scanning only works so well in terms of identifying where the bag is. The airlines do not track/handle bags like FedEx or UPS track packages.

Yes, I'm a FFer who claims to rarely check bags - and I really rarely do. I checked a bag coming home from Europe this past summer because of some shopping we did while there; it was carry-on on the way over. Prior to that it had been over a year and dozens of flights. We had a bag get misplaced on a trip to Alaska in '03 which was a problem because we were headed into the back-country. The CO folks were really nice, offering to deliver it to us as soon as it made it to ANC, but that wasn't going to happen while we were completely disconnected.

As to the point of having to wait for the rental car shuttle or whatever other excuses have been tendered for reasons we all should just "suck it up" I will say that I actually almost never am waiting for anything when I land. I take my bags and am out of the airport directly, either to a cab/car service or train or on-site rental car. It has been quite a while since I've had to wait more than a couple minutes at the airport.

If the airlines want us to be happy about checking bags then let them take on the responsibility of actually ensuring that the bags get where they are supposed to be, without being damaged or pilfered. The unwillingness of the airlines to accept fault and accommodate passengers appropriately when a bag does get misplaced is the reason so many, self included, are averse to giving them that chance.