CO Denied Me Boarding Because I Had No Pants On
#91
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To be honest, when I was younger, I loved dressing up for air travel, as it was a rare experience. Now that it is a regular thing, I try to do it as comfortably as possible (while being considerate of others). But, if anyone has any reasonable suggestions, please pass them on...
Btw I think the problem some people have with your outfit -- aside from the fact that tracksuits cross the border into too casual -- is that ... well, the Juicy Couture thing peaked about five years ago, and these days it's the type of thing one generally associates with Carmela Soprano types (as in stereotypical shellacked-haired, four-inch-nailed North Jersey woman, not Mafia wife!).
But, then again, I can't complain given that I can't even remember the last time I flew not wearing either jeans or shorts -- which I imagine some of you would find horrific -- and I'm usually in FC or BF. I think it's silly to scold someone for wearing shorts flying between, say, Austin and Washington in mid-August, to use a real-life recent example. I'd be sweating like a pig in denim or anything heavier than a t-shirt the instant I stepped out into DC's 90-degree-plus, 90-percent-humidity air.
#92
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The dream of every airline employee is to buy a real ticket, get a reserved seat and dress in shorts, a holey t-shirt and flip flops and order a special meal.
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#94
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That's because you haven't spent your whole airline career watching paying passengers dress how ever they want, while you travel as an airline employee in "formal banking attire".....it's a pipe dream to dress as crappy as you can on a real ticket and no one can tell you that you can't board because of the way you are dressed! I have denied many an airline staff (on passes) a seat on the plane due to the manner of which they are dressed.
#95
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Old Days
I think this was from the old days of non-rev travel though... when the airlines enforced a strict dresscode, domestic first class privledges were abundant, and meals were served... let alone special ones
#96
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If you want to wear it fine. Just please do not smell, show off your junk, bring a spit cup or throw up sitting next to me. The last two happend to me both on my MR.
If you are wearing a pair of juicy pants and you are actually juicy expect an appreciative glance from me, if you are not juicy expect a WTH look from me.
If you are wearing a pair of juicy pants and you are actually juicy expect an appreciative glance from me, if you are not juicy expect a WTH look from me.
#97
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We still have a dress code although it has been relaxed somewhat. Still can't wear sweats, shorts, t-shirts, flesh baring clothes nor flip-flops. Jeans are finally allowed but only in coach.
#98
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As long as your attire is legal, I don't care what you wear and can't imagine why anyone would.
Sometimes I travel in a suit, sometimes I travel biz casual, sometimes I travel in flip-flops/jeans/tshirt. I hope I haven't offended any of your delicate sensibilities.
Sometimes I travel in a suit, sometimes I travel biz casual, sometimes I travel in flip-flops/jeans/tshirt. I hope I haven't offended any of your delicate sensibilities.
#99
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Dress Codes
While the non-rev dress code continues to evolve over time, has CO ever had a dress code for passengers ....even back in the regulated "old days" when they had an international F cabin?
#100
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It's the fashion victims who should legally be estopped from wearing what they're wearing, for the sake of innocent people who have to look at this.
Muffin-top (or muffin-top girl) is a generally pejorative, slang term used for a person, usually female, whose flabby midsection spills over the waistline of his or her pants in a manner that resembles the top of a muffin spilling over its paper casing.
This generally occurs when an individual wears low-rise, hip-hugger pants, or midriff-baring tops that are too small.
This generally occurs when an individual wears low-rise, hip-hugger pants, or midriff-baring tops that are too small.
www.muffintop.org
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#101
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Originally Posted by vsevolod4;9169126
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#102
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Simple Solution: Segregate the cabins!
I actually have a simple solution to this: Planes used to be configured with separate Smoking and Non-Smoking sections. Let's use this infrastructure to create "Stylish" and "Non-Stylish" sections. And if you have children, are not properly dressed, have open-ear headphones blaring rap "music" at 140 decibels, are prone to chatting to your seatmate, use your cellphone for anything other than text messaging/email, or otherwise are liable to disturb anyone, you're "Non-Stylish." (Or reverse the letters and have "Screaming" and "Non-Screaming")
Aah, the dream of having a cabin where people remember the days when "First Class" meant "Elegant" ... I don't buy any of the "you paid the price; you can wear anything you want" or "hey, half the companies are 'business casual' so this allows me to dress like a Greyhound Bus or WN traveler" argument. After all, the vast majority of Michelin Three-Star Restaurants either have a jacket-and-tie dress code, or at least a "no jeans, no shorts, don't dress like a slob, and for Fudd's sake, no Juicy Couture or track suits!" policy. Doesn't matter how much you pay, or how "comfortable" you want to be.
But for the people who do not look forward to an elegant experience, there is always T.G.I. Friday's. So my solution of having "S" and "NS" sections accommodates both the classy and the Casual crowd, in fact enhances each of their experiences!
Aah, the dream of having a cabin where people remember the days when "First Class" meant "Elegant" ... I don't buy any of the "you paid the price; you can wear anything you want" or "hey, half the companies are 'business casual' so this allows me to dress like a Greyhound Bus or WN traveler" argument. After all, the vast majority of Michelin Three-Star Restaurants either have a jacket-and-tie dress code, or at least a "no jeans, no shorts, don't dress like a slob, and for Fudd's sake, no Juicy Couture or track suits!" policy. Doesn't matter how much you pay, or how "comfortable" you want to be.
But for the people who do not look forward to an elegant experience, there is always T.G.I. Friday's. So my solution of having "S" and "NS" sections accommodates both the classy and the Casual crowd, in fact enhances each of their experiences!
#103
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The whole thing is utterly moronic. I say its far more appropriate to ban those with halitosis, body odor and the obese: There, the flying public is genuinely subject to offensive behaviour. Clothing??? So long as the clothing doesn't have racist text on it or it doesn't stink, then who gives a f*ck really?
Last edited by shawbridge; Jan 31, 2008 at 3:17 pm
#104
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I see. Hardly anyone wears pants these days. People are obsessed with being politically correct for fear they might offend someone, especially on CO flights (how that for staying on topic). They've gone completely bonkers in California. Under SB777, kids in the public schools must declare what gender they want to be. So, if Johnny wants to be Johnine, all he has to do is check a box on his "Declaration of Gender", and zappo a he become a sheila. And Ahnuld has ordered the words mom and dad stricken from the public school textbooks for fear of offending certain types.
#105
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Ol' MacDonald's Farm Aloft . . .
Fortunately these cows and other assorted farm animals fly in coach-sty generally with the rest of the unwashed masses....