I have that issue with my parents, though the only property I cared about, a FI, is no longer a FI, so I'm happy to stay with them and earn my points elsewhere. No mint on my pillow, though:mad:

Disagree slightly. My background is all operations, and I need management expertise.

Copa, are you valeting for the hotel or concierge-ing? I'm a bit out of :rolleyes:.

I've got one of those Weber grills that has the side table and propane starter for the charcoal. Not entirely necessary, since I'm already using a chimney starter which could be fired up with a piece of newspaper and a match, but it is handy to have the side table while grilling.

Flank steak with chimichurri tonight = win.

Their primary issues are that (1) they have no left back, and (2) their best center back hasn't played in seven months due to a knee injury. They were actually pretty solid defensively until recently.

I have a desk. I have a BS Chemical Engineering degree. While I don't have people reporting to me, I'm part of a team responsible for deployment of some fairly big corporate strategic initiatives.

It all depends on the kind of office job you want... At my employer, you won't get in the door in marketing without an MBA + an undergrad degree in marketing or similar appropriate field.

On the other hand, R&D people can start with a BS/BA in food science, food engineering, or chemical engineering. People come in with advanced degrees, too, but that just means they start in a higher salary band initially (although a reasonable talented BS/BA entry-level person will have been promoted to the same level (or higher) than the entry level PhD in the time it took the PhD to complete their graduate program).

I've considered going back for an MBA or a masters in operations management, but the lack of an advanced degree hasn't really been a negative for me to this point.

Had some family over today and we cooked marinated flank steak (a Korean BBQ style), marinated chicken (Korean marinade again), and Wegman's sliders. Pretty ^. :-:

I, too, have a desk and am considered management, but don't have people reporting to me. So it goes. :rolleyes:

What about thereafter? Are the upper-middle management positions (I don't know what to call 'em, but you know what I mean) more open to the advanced degree holders?

Depends on the path you want to take. Senior technical folks at R&D almost all have PhDs. My boss is a 25-year guy at the company - he's run manufacturing plants, led technical groups, etc. No advanced degree. You might not reach VP-level without an MBA, but you can certainly get to the upper levels of middle management. I don't know his salary, but the grade he's at should be getting him in the neighborhood of $150-175K base salary, +25% target cash incentive (which could rise to 35% if both he and the company have good years), plus options/restricted stock grants.

Yeah, my job title is "Program Manager", but I don't manage anyone either.

How does an advanced degree get you that? I don't have one and I've got plenty of experience managing project teams and running groups. Unless you are in an industry that absolutely requires the advanced degree there are ways to get in and succeed without one.

Oh! How could I forget!

/me runs to the phone to report sbm12 to the cops

But do you know the crime committed? :p

G'night, Box.

I'm going with carrying an unregistered, filled propane tank on public transportation (subway). :-:

Either that or mileage whoring. :D:-: