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Anglo Large Clawed Otter May 18, 2010 2:43 pm


Originally Posted by Hartmann (Post 13980625)
I'd also like to know how they're guaranteeing you "green" energy since it's all delivered on the same grid with no way to distinguish where it came from ;)

I'd be curious to know, as well. As advertising it and not delivering on it would likely violate the Texas Deceptive Trade Practices Act. :-:


Originally Posted by CO 1E (Post 13980640)
What about when you have to crank the A/C at full steam for the next five months?

I moved into my present apartment last July. I've never had an electric bill over $32 (which was August of last year). The place is well insulated, and I turn off the a/c when I'm not there, and don't have any appliances drawing vampire power (except for the fridge, which runs constantly).

shell nyc May 18, 2010 2:43 pm

We're heading to SYD May 28-31. Nice impulse weekend. Now to find a way to NOT be sitting in E- !

gbryan84 May 18, 2010 2:43 pm


Originally Posted by CO 1E (Post 13980640)
What about when you have to crank the A/C at full steam for the next five months?

He goes to a Starwood.

sdm1130 May 18, 2010 2:44 pm


Originally Posted by uncertaintraveler (Post 13980454)
1) Are you sure that Energy Plus "services" your area? If they aren't listed on the power to choose website for your area, I'd wonder why.

They are apparently new to the Houston area, so my guess was that they just haven't been added yet.


Originally Posted by uncertaintraveler (Post 13980454)
2) Keep in mind that if your electricity provider goes belly-up, you typically do not receive any notice of the same until you receive a bill from a new provider (who I think is called a "provider of last resort", or POLR)---and the new provider will likely charge you well in excess of what your contracted rate with your old provider was.

A very good point. :-:

Electricity deregulation is :rolleyes:.

Hartmann May 18, 2010 2:45 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 13980657)
I'd be curious to know, as well. As advertising it and not delivering on it would likely violate the Texas Deceptive Trade Practices Act. :-:

My guess is that in the T&C's it says something to the effect of you supporting wind energy with your money (your $$ goes to maintaining the turbines), not the actual delivery of the power.

It is almost impossible that your power comes 100% from wind energy since the grid within the loop is supported by a handful of plants that sit just outside the loop.

sdm1130 May 18, 2010 2:47 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 13980600)
On their green energy plan (all wind-generated), the total came to $20.49 :cool:


Originally Posted by Hartmann (Post 13980625)
I'd also like to know how they're guaranteeing you "green" energy since it's all delivered on the same grid with no way to distinguish where it came from ;)

I prefer black or brown energy sources. :p

sdm1130 May 18, 2010 2:48 pm

One electric company is even offering a free companion airline ticket. :rolleyes:

Anglo Large Clawed Otter May 18, 2010 2:48 pm


Originally Posted by Hartmann (Post 13980681)
My guess is that in the T&C's it says something to the effect of you supporting wind energy with your money (your $$ goes to maintaining the turbines), not the actual delivery of the power.

It is almost impossible that your power comes 100% from wind energy since the grid within the loop is supported by a handful of plants that sit just outside the loop.

From their fine-print on the Green Option...


Your purchase of renewable energy certificates (RECs) is supporting electricity production in the United States. For every unit of renewable electricity generated, an equivalent amount of RECs is produced. The purchase of RECs helps offset conventional electricity generation in the region where the renewable electricity generator is located. The purchase also helps build a market for renewable electricity and may have other local and global environmental benefits such as reducing global climate change and regional air pollution. Click here for more information about RECs, or visit www.green-e.org.

icurhere2 May 18, 2010 2:53 pm


Originally Posted by windwalker (Post 13979715)
ETA- WR And BD=fail

Yet I do log in to check the BD account once per day ...

icurhere2 May 18, 2010 2:57 pm


Originally Posted by windwalker (Post 13980390)
must be interesting to choose whom you buy power from. We only have one source here

Same here and it's a TVA cooperative (around 10.5 cents / kWh lately).

Anglo Large Clawed Otter May 18, 2010 2:58 pm


Originally Posted by gbryan84 (Post 13980662)
He goes to a Starwood.

:D

Even assuming I am out of town every weekend, I'm doing fairly well on keeping the costs down. Average residential consumer electricity consumption is 920 kWh/mo. Mine's usually 125-150, and has never gone over 250, even in August. Wouldn't be close to 920, even adjusted to account for every weekend spent elsewhere.

windwalker May 18, 2010 3:08 pm


Originally Posted by Hartmann (Post 13980440)
I've been here through the deregulation process and I'll say the most interesting part is getting power back after a hurricane, since one company still owns all of the lines.

Ouch


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 13980474)
So it looks like I'm headed to SYD. Leaving on June 3, returning June 6 (weekend after Memorial Day). I get a Saturday night in SYD. Impulse purchase, but I didn't really have anything booked for a few weeks and I am going to need some travel. :D

in whY?


Originally Posted by Hartmann (Post 13980625)
My only issue with EnergyPlus (and a lot of the deregulated carriers) is their insistence on variable rates. It's fine when the price of natural gas is low, but when it spikes, you can see prices in the 20-25 cents kWh range.

I'd also like to know how they're guaranteeing you "green" energy since it's all delivered on the same grid with no way to distinguish where it came from ;)

Power fairies


Originally Posted by icurhere2 (Post 13980741)
Yet I do log in to check the BD account once per day ...

as do I. Heck I don't even see the base 500 miles yet

gbryan84 May 18, 2010 3:08 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 13980777)
:D

Even assuming I am out of town every weekend, I'm doing fairly well on keeping the costs down. Average residential consumer electricity consumption is 920 kWh/mo. Mine's usually 125-150, and has never gone over 250, even in August. Wouldn't be close to 920, even adjusted to account for every weekend spent elsewhere.

Im sure I'm on the higher end of that statistic as I cant stand being hot in my own house. We dont let it get below 73, and if its muggy outside we run the a/c.

My parents blow that statistic out of the water. In the summer its no hotter than 70 and in the winter its probably 75. I remember my dad complaining to my mom when they would get bills in the $800 range. So now that the kids are out of the house what are they doing? Building a house twice the size of the one I grew up in :rolleyes: I'd rather them get a lake house or something.

Anglo Large Clawed Otter May 18, 2010 3:08 pm

Box thoughts on likelihood of IAH-PHL dropping below $318+ for mid-July flights (not July 4 weekend)?

Anglo Large Clawed Otter May 18, 2010 3:10 pm


Originally Posted by gbryan84 (Post 13980827)
Im sure I'm on the higher end of that statistic as I cant stand being hot in my own house. We dont let it get below 73, and if its muggy outside we run the a/c.

My parents blow that statistic out of the water. In the summer its no hotter than 70 and in the winter its probably 75. I remember my dad complaining to my mom when they would get bills in the $800 range. So now that the kids are out of the house what are they doing? Building a house twice the size of the one I grew up in :rolleyes: I'd rather them get a lake house or something.

I believe my parents had a $1,300 electric bill one August.


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